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Devils Fans What is the ask from Detroit for 10

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Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2024
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Curious what the Devils would be looking for to move back from 10. Detroit could offer picks (15, plus) , prospects or roster players. Detroit desperately needs a high end skilled forward in their system. What is the ask, Devils fan?
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    May 13 at 10:22 a.m.
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    I think Detroit can probably get some of the same forwards they would get at ten with their own pick at 15. Unless your'e trying to grab someone like Catton.
    May 13 at 10:25 a.m.
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    Devils need goaltending so maybe they could throw in a goalie prospect like Cossa or one of the ones they took last year? Not sure if it works value wise
    May 13 at 10:25 a.m.
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    A high end starting goalie or a middle 6 play driving power forward plus a mid round pick.. neither of which I think Detroit can satisfy tbh
    May 13 at 10:28 a.m.
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    Devils need a young top 4 long term LHD, top 6 LW, or legitimate u30 starting goalie. Devils were interested in Kasper and Edvinsson in their drafts but there are probably better options at 10 then at least Kasper this year so IMO that leaves Edvinsson and I don't think Detroit would do that
    May 13 at 10:29 a.m.
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    Quoting: BDHockey
    I think Detroit can probably get some of the same forwards they would get at ten with their own pick at 15. Unless your'e trying to grab someone like Catton.


    That is absolutely who I think the Wings should target. Moving up to 10 gives them a good chance at Catton or Eiserman.
    May 13 at 10:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: Schuyler
    Devils need a young top 4 long term LHD, top 6 LW, or legitimate u30 starting goalie. Devils were interested in Kasper and Edvinsson in their drafts but there are probably better options at 10 then at least Kasper this year so IMO that leaves Edvinsson and I don't think Detroit would do that


    Detroit could offer Buium or Wallinder (Top 4 LD potential) along with Berggren (Top 9 LW) and a 2nd.
    May 13 at 10:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: rednwhite
    Detroit could offer Buium or Wallinder (Top 4 LD potential) along with Berggren (Top 9 LW) and a 2nd.


    That doesn't do much for the devils no point in trading a top 10 pick for quantity
    May 13 at 10:39 a.m.
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    Quoting: Schuyler
    That doesn't do much for the devils no point in trading a top 10 pick for quantity


    15 and Buium?
    May 13 at 10:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: rednwhite
    That is absolutely who I think the Wings should target. Moving up to 10 gives them a good chance at Catton or Eiserman.


    Nothing about Eiserman screams “Yzerman” except the pronunciation lol.

    One dimensional forward with questionable compete level. That’s not an Yzerman pick at all.
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    May 13 at 10:44 a.m.
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    I don't think there are any roster players DET has they'd be willing to part with that I'd move the pick period (as opposed to trading down). The Devils have to think about the future with this pick when they start paying guys like Luke and Nemec real money. Having a solid ELC coming in would be huge for their long term needs.
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    May 13 at 10:46 a.m.
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    Devils need goaltending so maybe they could throw in a goalie prospect like Cossa or one of the ones they took last year? Not sure if it works value wise


    LOL!
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    May 13 at 10:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: DanielSan92
    Nothing about Eiserman screams “Yzerman” except the pronunciation lol.

    One dimensional forward with questionable compete level. That’s not an Yzerman pick at all.


    Detroit has filled the cupboard with Yzerman types. It is time to take a risk on a potential 40 goal guy. Detroit couldn't afford to miss with their recent top 10 picks. Now that some of the prospects are planning out they can afford to swing at the high potential types.
    May 13 at 10:47 a.m.
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    Quoting: rednwhite
    15 and Buium?


    Probably fair value but would depend on the first 9 picks I'd imagine
    May 13 at 10:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: rednwhite
    Detroit has filled the cupboard with Yzerman types. It is time to take a risk on a potential 40 goal guy. Detroit couldn't afford to miss with their recent top 10 picks. Now that some of the prospects are planning out they can afford to swing at the high potential types.


    Laine comparable is not the guy I’m thinking we should be taking a risk on lol.

    Catton maybe. Either way, it’s been pretty obvious since getting ****ed in the lotto repeatedly that we’re going to have to build a STL/VGK Cup team rather than a CHI/PIT type.
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    May 13 at 10:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: rednwhite
    That is absolutely who I think the Wings should target. Moving up to 10 gives them a good chance at Catton or Eiserman.


    I think you might be able to get Eiserman at 15. The Devils ought to keep 10oa so they can get Catton
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    May 13 at 10:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: Schuyler
    Devils need a young top 4 long term LHD, top 6 LW, or legitimate u30 starting goalie. Devils were interested in Kasper and Edvinsson in their drafts but there are probably better options at 10 then at least Kasper this year so IMO that leaves Edvinsson and I don't think Detroit would do that


    I’d assume he meant to move up from 15, in which case the price to move up five picks is obviously not Kasper or Edvinsson.

    There’s nobody available at 10 that’s worth Edvinsson. ****, in this draft, there’s probably nobody at 5 worth Edvinsson.
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    May 13 at 10:55 a.m.
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    The difference between 10 and 15 is no where near Cossa, Kasper, Edvinsson or Wallinder. Keep dreaming!
    May 13 at 10:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: YeahDudeitsChris
    A high end starting goalie or a middle 6 play driving power forward plus a mid round pick.. neither of which I think Detroit can satisfy tbh


    LOL!
    May 13 at 10:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: pretzelcoatl
    I think you might be able to get Eiserman at 15. The Devils ought to keep 10oa so they can get Catton


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    I think you might be able to get Eiserman at 15. The Devils ought to keep 10oa so they can get Catton


    Not saying Catton would be a bad pick at 10, but another small forward that can be pushed around easily seems like a bad idea for NJD.
    May 13 at 10:58 a.m.
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    Quoting: rednwhite
    15 and Buium?


    Who are you hoping to draft at 10?

    Really I am only not looking to trade if Iginla (who I figure goes at 9), Silayev, or Catton fall. If all three are gone,which is plausible, I'd be willing to trade down.

    I'd imagine you'd have to love whoever was there at 10 to move up, but I'd assume it would be 15, 47, and probably 2025 2nd, with the Devils maybe kicking back a 3rd to even things out. I'm using https://puckpedia.com/pickvalue to approximate that value (I did 10 and 84 for 15, 47, 48 with 48 representing next year's 2nd)
    May 13 at 11:01 a.m.
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    Who are you hoping to draft at 10?

    Really I am only not looking to trade if Iginla (who I figure goes at 9), Silayev, or Catton fall. If all three are gone,which is plausible, I'd be willing to trade down.

    I'd imagine you'd have to love whoever was there at 10 to move up, but I'd assume it would be 15, 47, and probably 2025 2nd, with the Devils maybe kicking back a 3rd to even things out. I'm using https://puckpedia.com/pickvalue to approximate that value (I did 10 and 84 for 15, 47, 48 with 48 representing next year's 2nd)

    You already said it, but I can’t see Iggy getting past Calgary.

    With the way ownership meddled in the Markstrom trade, I can see them demanding management draft Iggy. Not that he wouldn’t be justified at 9, but they’ll draft him for dollar signs anyways.
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    May 13 at 11:03 a.m.
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    You already said it, but I can’t see Iggy getting past Calgary.

    With the way ownership meddled in the Markstrom trade, I can see them demanding management draft Iggy. Not that he wouldn’t be justified at 9, but they’ll draft him for dollar signs anyways.


    I can see Markstrom going for a price that breaks the souls of CGY fans prior to the draft and then drafting Iggy to cover it up and buoy their hopes.
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    May 13 at 11:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: DanielSan92
    I’d assume he meant to move up from 15, in which case the price to move up five picks is obviously not Kasper or Edvinsson.

    There’s nobody available at 10 that’s worth Edvinsson. ****, in this draft, there’s probably nobody at 5 worth Edvinsson.


    That's why I said Detroit probably wouldn't do it but top 5 is a stretch I'd take any of the guys projected there over Edvinsson and the reason I say that is I think most of them would be full time NHLers 3 years in
    May 13 at 11:07 a.m.
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    For #10 outright .... a great young player at position of need. Would probably be talking guys that are young NHLers...so other than Seider, Raymond, Larkin, I'd think anyone else.

    To move up from #15 to #10....one or two holes filled (two-way 3C, defensive LD, heavy forechecking bottom-sizers, goalie). In terms of pick value, Puck Pedia says the gap between #10 and #15 is about equal to an early 2nd round pick. So maybe guys like Berggrem Wallinder, Buium, Veleno. People will say Cossa, Augustine...but we have young goalies....we need NHL-ready guys. So Husso perhaps.
    May 13 at 11:10 a.m.
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    Quoting: DanielSan92
    Not saying Catton would be a bad pick at 10, but another small forward that can be pushed around easily seems like a bad idea for NJD.


    Always take BPA who cares if he's small Tampa had 4 guys 6 foot or under in their top 6 during their runs
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