Who is the best young LHD we could get for 10th overall pick

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Created by: NHLfan10506

Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2024

Published: May 14, 2024

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My thinking is that if one of these six guys falls to #10, we keep the pick and select him.

-- Celebrini
-- Levshunov
-- Demidov
-- Buium
-- Catton
-- Dickinson

Otherwise, look for best opportunity for trade down (or maybe trade out). If they trade out of that pick for a player, it’s like a good young player already in NHL, with term (and not likely to be a goalie).

So….I am curious what you all think would be some of the more realistic dmen that pick could fetch.

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Assume the draft follows average mock draft order

1. SJS: Celebrini
2. CHI: Levshunov
3. ANA: Demidov
4. CBJ: Silayev
5. MTL: Lindstrom
6. ARI: Buium
7. OTT: Dickinson
8. SEA: Parekh
9. CGY: Iginla

(Maybe not exactly in this order…but those nine guys are gone)

Trades

NJD

The first couple of guys are guys we have put offers for on ACGM. Just using them as example.

CHI

LHD
- 25 or younger
- Long and mobile
- Good defensively
- Clean on d-zone exits

NJD

Vlasic, Alex

CHI

Straight trade

NJD

Guhle, Kaiden

MTL

Trade down to 27

NJD

Fehérváry, Martin

WSH

Trade down to 17

NJD

WSH

These are all just examples…am looking for people to suggest others

Buyouts

Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
Janne Kuokkanen: $325,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Christopher Tanev: $1,125,000 (50%)
Tyler Toffoli: $2,125,000 (50%)

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Buried

Michael McLeod: $250,000 ($1,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$79,705,000	$422,500	$5,425,000	$3,795,000

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Meier, Timo $8,800,000$8,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Hughes, Jack $8,000,000$8,000,000 C UFA - 7	Bratt, Jesper $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW UFA - 8
Palat, Ondrej $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Hischier, Nico $7,250,000$7,250,000 C UFA - 4	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 2
Nosek, Tomas $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Haula, Erik $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 3	Holtz, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Foote, Nolan $863,333$863,333 LW RFA - 1	Tierney, Chris $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1	Mercer, Dawson $894,167$894,167 ($400,000$400K) RW, C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Siegenthaler, Jonas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD UFA - 5	Hamilton, Dougie $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Kähkönen, Kaapo $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
	Nemec, Simon $918,333$918,333 ($3,250,000$3M) RD RFA - 3	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Hughes, Luke $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Marino, John $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD UFA - 4

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Bahl, Kevin $1,050,000$1,050,000 LD RFA - 2		Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2
MacDermid, Kurtis $987,500$987,500 LD/RD, LW UFA - 1		Fehérváry, Martin $2,675,000$2,675,000 LD/RD RFA - 3
Bastian, Nathan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 2		Vlasic, Alex $916,667$916,667 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 1

May 14 at 10:05 a.m.

#26

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Just spit-balling some others

ANA - Lacombe/24
ARI - Moser/?
ARI - Valimaki/?
BUF - Byram
BUF - RyJo/?
DET - Edvinsson
EDM - Broberg/?
NYI - Romonaov/?
NYR - Miller
VGK - Hague/19
WAS - Alexeyev/?
WPG - Samberg/?

Where is the line?

May 14 at 10:09 a.m.

#27

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Quoting: Bast

I think Sean Durzi, and Cam York fit what you're looking for. M. Anderson from LAK would be an amazing add for that pick(you'd probably need to add though). Then you have Byram, and Moeser.

That's everyone I could think of.

Mikey Anderson is good, not great. Not sure he fetches 10th or especially not 10th+

May 14 at 10:10 a.m.

#28

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Quoting: dgibb10

Mikey Anderson is good, not great. Not sure he fetches 10th or especially not 10th+

He's very good at what he does. He's also signed to a steal of a contract. That's just my personal opinion based on watching him play.

May 14 at 10:11 a.m.

#29

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Quoting: Bast

He's very good at what he does. He's also signed to a steal of a contract. That's just my personal opinion based on watching him play.

From LAK my ideal would be to try and steal Gavrikov as a cap casualty at a bargain

May 14 at 10:15 a.m.

#30

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Quoting: dgibb10

I think Fehevary would be the best target.

Quoting: dgibb10

I’ve had a number of trades for Fehevary deemed as quite fair by caps fans.

Fehevary+17th for Bahl+2nd+10th

I don't think the Caps would go for this - Fehervary is too important (imo). Unless used in a package for a better defender or a top 6 forward, I don't think the Caps trade him (as they are trying to contend)

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May 14 at 10:17 a.m.

#31

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Quoting: All_Knowing

Are the caps going to go for it next year? They sold at the deadline and appear to be going to the future.

Holtz would be available as an NHL ready piece needing a top 6 role. I have built proposals around him too

May 14 at 10:20 a.m.

#32

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Habs can offer more than just Matheson though, you can have him straight up for 10 or any two of Engstrom, Harris, Srtuble, Norlinder or Barron. Personally I would even include Xhekaj but Hughes is intent on keeping him so he is likely off the table too

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May 14 at 10:23 a.m.

#33

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Quoting: Campabee

Matheson does not fit with what NJD needs.

May 14 at 10:25 a.m.

#34

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Quoting: dgibb10

He feels the most contender ready of them all. He eats incredibly tough minutes and has had a lot of success doing it.

I think he fits best with the timeline

Quoting: All_Knowing

I'd like Fehervary. But timing may not be right.

(1) He is being used plenty (I think thrd in TOI)
(2) contract is fine
(3) not an RFA...so no impetus to move him.

Meanwhile Alexeyev is getting little playing time, is RFA after next year. If they move someone...he is more likely the guy

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May 14 at 10:26 a.m.

#35

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I don’t think they’d be trying to move Fehevary. But I’d be going and offering what I think is quite the enticing package.

I don’t think cast off young guys fits the timeline. We need someone who can be quality right now. If we’re hunting in the bargain, I think it’s a short term stopgap to a guy like Dickinson hopefully

10th overall+whatever is needed for 8th overall (Dickinson)+Dumoulin

May 14 at 10:27 a.m.

#36

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Vlasic would definitely cost more than the #10OA. #20 plus Philips or Allan for the #10 may be reasonable.

May 14 at 10:30 a.m.

#37

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

So far, I got

CHI: #20 plus one of Del Maestro, Allan, Phillips, Crevier, Kaiser for #10
MTL: Matheson straight up for #10
PHI: #30 plus one of Zamula or Ginning for #10

Matheson straight up for 10 is a bit of an overpay, we could add COL 2nd or a prospect.

We aint trading Guhle but Struble could be a cheaper but similar option for you.

May 14 at 10:31 a.m.

#38

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Quoting: dgibb10

I’ve had a number of trades for Fehevary deemed as quite fair by caps fans.

Fehevary+17th for Bahl+2nd+10th

It might be fair trade value, but why the hell would the Caps move a good 24 year old defenseman on a good contract? Like, I can't see a good reason to move on from Marty, he's been awesome here.

May 14 at 10:32 a.m.

#39

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

So far, I got

CHI: #20 plus one of Del Maestro, Allan, Phillips, Crevier, Kaiser for #10
MTL: Matheson straight up for #10
PHI: #30 plus one of Zamula or Ginning for #10

i also agree with the 'forget ghule, try matheson' crowd

you wont get a better 3 years out of anyone else right away

May 14 at 10:33 a.m.

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Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan

It might be fair trade value, but why the hell would the Caps move a good 24 year old defenseman on a good contract? Like, I can't see a good reason to move on from Marty, he's been awesome here.

10th overall pick would be the incentive.

May 14 at 10:34 a.m.

#41

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Moving up from 10 to 17 is not enough to move Fehervary

May 14 at 10:40 a.m.

#42

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Edited May 14 at 1:04 p.m.

Quoting: dgibb10

I think Fehevary would be the best target.

Building off of that- Nygard at around 14
Trade 17 with an add to SJ to move up for Nygard

Also addition/outright for 10OA to add Malenstyn

You guys do these better than I do, work your magic!

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May 14 at 10:42 a.m.

#43

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I think your either overvaluing the pick or undervaluing each of the young D you listed.

The last young D that went for a pick in a draft that fits what you seem to be looking for was Romanov (and a 4th) for 13th OA in 2022. I don't think any of the guys you listed are realistically available other than for an overpayment, but even if they were NJ would be adding for Vlasic and wouldn't be moving down a lot more (if at all) for Guhle or Fehevrvary.

May 14 at 11:07 a.m.

#44

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Quoting: dgibb10

10th overall pick would be the incentive.

yea i get that, but (at least in my opinion) it's a lot more enticing having Fehervary, Sandin, and Alexeyev down the left side for the next decade. All three were really good this year and they are all 24. Just seems like a silly move to move out a good, young defenseman like that for a team that has said they need to get younger for two years now

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May 14 at 11:17 a.m.

#45

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Quoting: dgibb10

Quoting: NHLfan10506

Management has stated that they will try to contend as long as Ovi is there. I think they will push for a top 6 forward this year as well as a reshuffling on defense (specifically on the right side)

Regarding Alexeyev, he didn't play much until post TDL/playoffs and played extremely well (imo and also had high praise from coaching staff / GM).

May 14 at 11:48 a.m.

#46

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Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan

Understandable if you don’t want to move him.

A package centered around 10th overall and/or holtz id think would be pretty appealing imo, especially if you really like someone who slips to 10

But obviously cannot acquire a player who management doesn’t want to move.

May 14 at 12:56 p.m.

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Quoting: perrystreett

Moving up from 10 to 17 is not enough to move Fehervary

You would move from 17 to 10 btw

But yes, a swap of picks probably not enough for Fehervary...but too much for Alexeyev.

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