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Armchair-GM
6 hours ago
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i saw this and i love it from mtl perspective
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>It is close and I agree Danault has slightly more value but based on needs and our contention window, I think we just prefer to keep Beck and Matheson</div></div>
Yeah I feel the same. My thread was literally just trying to create different blockbusters that we don't usually get (I also had MTL trading Caufield and Reinbacher to NJD for Nemec and Mercer). I'm tired of seeing Necas and Zegras deals lol
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Armchair-GM
6 hours ago
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i saw this and i love it from mtl perspective
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Problem is Beck has more value than a 2nd so the Kings would have to add a 1st instead and even then I think the Habs prefer Beck to Danault anyway based on age</div></div>
I agree Beck is worth more than a 2nd at this point, but I value Danault more than Matheson, so for me it evens itself out. But even if we agree to disagree on that, it's still fairly close imo.
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Armchair-GM
6 hours ago
Thread:
i saw this and i love it from mtl perspective
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div><strong>LA and Montreal don't really have trades that cover what the other team needs</strong>. LA is focused on competing while Kopitar is with the team, which means Danault must be on the team as either the 2C or 3C, as both PLD and Byfield have not yet proven to be as effective in their 200 foot game. Danault (who has a NMC) is unlikely to leave LA during his contract, he is playing for a much more defensive team which has allowed him to better show his offensive game, unsure he wants to move even if there was an opportunity, his family, his house, he's an LA guy now.</div></div>
MTL literally has assets (that they could realistically move) at almost every single position (apart from maybe Center) that LA would be interested in. Matheson being one of them for sure. I think I agree with you though that they would be difficult trade partners. I don't see MTL wanting to move Matheson for just future assets (they still need vets on the team), which is why Danault would be my target. But obviously with LAK trying to contend, moving Danault is kind of counter-intuitive.
As for Danault being a LA guy now, you might be right. But I don't think he'd say no to a return to MTL. This was a reply a wrote in the thread where I did my trade suggestion for Danault:
"I think Danault would have zero issues coming back to MTL. He wanted to stay initially. The main reason he left was due to Bergevin and the bridges he burned with not believing he was a top 6 C, refusing to budge on the contract negotiations (Bergevin truly sucked a contracts...). Kind of ironic that Bergevin is in the LA organization lol"
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Armchair-GM
7 hours ago
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i saw this and i love it from mtl perspective
Not sure if you got it from me:
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/841880
But I had Beck involved in the deal as well.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>LA isn't moving on from Danault, especially not after PLDs recent season.</div></div>
Beck needing to be involved specifically for this reason. Beck's ceiling is basically a Danault / Cirelli type player. If LA are committed to PLD, and MTL can convince them to move Danault. Beck is the cost-effective investment / back up to eventually take up Danault's spot if PLD continues to struggle. MTL can afford to move him with Kapanen in their system. Alternatively, LA could prefer Kapanen over Beck. I have both as equal level prospects.
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Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Lets do crazy blockbusters for fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Los Angeles GM Rob Blake doesn't even bother to ask Phillip Danault to waive his NTC which has Montreal on it; his acquisition of Danault is what Blake segues to whenever someone mentions Pierre-Luc DuBois.</div></div>
I think Danault would have zero issues coming back to MTL. He wanted to stay initially. The main reason he left was due to Bergevin and the bridges he burned with not believing he was a top 6 C, refusing to budge on the contract negotiations (Bergevin truly sucked a contracts...). Kind of ironic that Bergevin is in the LA organization lol
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Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Lets do crazy blockbusters for fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Schuyler</b></div><div>Value on that devils trade is probably fair but I wouldn't do it because I think Nemec ends up as the best player out of those 4</div></div>
I think you're right... no guarantee though. If I had to put the deal over the top, I'd have both MTL and NJD 1st rd picks in this year's draft included (so MTL trading down from 5 to 10 as well). But that's the max I'd offer!
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Armchair-GM
10 hours ago
Thread:
Lets do crazy blockbusters for fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WastingTimeWithTradeNobodyLikes</b></div><div>he's gotten softer since then, he already started whining and having a bad attitude with the media. He likes to party more now.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Voice_Of_Thruth</b></div><div>Caufield had 29 more points than mercer</div></div>
A lot of people forget as well that Caufield (and Suzuki) already has a Stanley cup finals appearance under his belt. And this nonsense that small players don't show up in the playoffs is bs, Caufield's playoff performance being one example, and you know... Marchessault winning the Conn Smyth last year...
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Armchair-GM
11 hours ago
Thread:
Lets do crazy blockbusters for fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>See I thought you were using that trade to bring the Slovaks together lol</div></div>
I guess there would be a lot of reuniting with the trade lmao, because it would also reunite Caufield with J.Hughes...
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Armchair-GM
11 hours ago
Thread:
Lets do crazy blockbusters for fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WastingTimeWithTradeNobodyLikes</b></div><div>everyone talk about caufield like he is a proven 40+ goal scorer but never did 30 goals. He is small, soft and doesnt like to go in the traffic. <strong>he's not the kind of guy that will take his game to the next level in the playoff</strong>, he would get mauled against a team like the panthers or dallas.</div></div>
you've got to be trolling... Caufield has proven he can step up in the playoffs... he practically made Vegas his *female dogs* as a 20 year old rookie and had 12pts in 20 playoff games...
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Armchair-GM
11 hours ago
Thread:
Lets do crazy blockbusters for fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WastingTimeWithTradeNobodyLikes</b></div><div>No reasons for devils to do that. <strong>Mercer is better than Caufield</strong></div></div>
LOL wut?! you're gonna have to explain that one...
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Armchair-GM
11 hours ago
Thread:
Lets do crazy blockbusters for fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div><strong>You have your 2nd and 3rd lines backwards</strong>
NJ trade would be a fun idea
Pass on the LA trade, I like Danault but he made his choice to leave and can live with it</div></div>
They are interchangeable for sure. Need offense, Dach line, need to shutdown the opponent, Danault line. Let's not discount the chemistry between Danault and Gallagher, they literally were one of the best 5v5 lines for years...
The other cool tidbit is reuniting both Newfies in Mercer and Newhook lol
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 4:09 p.m.
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Change of scenery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wz92</b></div><div>The only reasons mik wasn't scratched is because he's good defensively</div></div>
So that would be the "appeal" for MTL to take on Mikheyev. They'd be looking for a more responsible defensive player to play in their bottom 6, VAN want to take a gamble on a more physical forward.
But if I'm being fair... Anderson was almost unplayable by the end of the season for the last 15 games or so... He practically gave up on his season, wasn't even hitting anymore. It really wouldn't surprise me if MTL waives him to send him down to the AHL after training camp if he doesn't smarten up and some of the kids bump him out of a spot.
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 4:01 p.m.
Thread:
Change of scenery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dickie_Dunn</b></div><div>Anderson contract has a total value remaining of $16.5M over 3 years. Miky has two years left at a total value of $9.5M. The delta between the two is $7M?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wz92</b></div><div>I messed up! Thought they were both 2 years left. You're right</div></div>
True, but from MTLs perspective, there's really no issue or rush to move Anderson. Habs aren't in any cap troubles, they could easily bury Anderson in the AHL if needed. If VAN want to take a gamble on Anderson that's fine, but there's zero incentive for Hughes to have to pay to move him.
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 3:54 p.m.
Thread:
Change of scenery
As a Habs fan, yes without the retention. I'd throw in a 3rd or 4th rd pick to make up the difference instead.
MTL needs to start opening their retention slots to get more flexibility to make other moves. So if VAN want MTL to retain, let's say $750k per year for 3 years, that roughly $2.25mil total which should be worth around a 3rd or 4th rd pick instead.
So counter offer:
VAN gets: Anderson + 3rd
MTL gets: Mikheyev
Anderson is probably the more talented, physical player. but it's almost a wash imo (Mikheyev probably more defensively responsible (maybe?)) But if Mikheyev and Anderson both can't turn things around, Mikheyev is easier to bury, and his contract ends sooner.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 12:51 p.m.
Thread:
A Necas Matheson deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Morrow will take Skjei's spot on the powerplay. Burns and Morrow can run the man advantage. They don't need another D man to run the man advantage</div></div>
As I wrote in the description. The Canes could definitely go internal. But with CAR wanting to contend for a cup, it might be a bit soon to think Morrow can take over the PP.
Is a trade like going to happen? probably not (as for most trades on here lol). But I don't think this is a "This will NEVER happen!" kind of deal. There is a realistic way of thinking that CAR could have interest in Matheson.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 12:45 p.m.
Thread:
A Necas Matheson deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>the difference is the contract math has, and the one necas dosnt</div></div>
Well if you're referring to Necas being a free agent, he's an RFA. Habs will hold his rights to negotiate a new deal. not really an issue. If you're referring to the cap hit, yes Matheson has a great value. But Necas being a 25 year old 1st line RW... much more valuable.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 12:20 p.m.
Thread:
A Necas Matheson deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>math is very very offensive so yeah i can see something like this. but i cant see mtl clogging the spots with ageing forwards. fast can be kept out.
more like a 1 for 1 swap</div></div>
No way CAR does 1 for 1. Younger assets NEED to be included to make up the 5 year difference between Necas and Matheson. Or else CAR wouldn't bother. I think Kapanen would be the prospect CAR would target. I'd prefer to keep him, so if they want to swap him with Barron I'm all for it. But you gotta give to get.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 12:13 p.m.
Thread:
A Necas Matheson deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Carolina have their Skjei replacement in Orlov, that's why he was signed. They don't need another LD, they'd be looking at RD, and not as the centerpiece of the return.</div></div>
Yes and no, Orlov and Slavin barely ever play on the PP, Skjei did. So, if CAR are looking for a PP LD (Obviously Burns is running PP1, but he'll be in his last year of his contract and turning 40), Matheson is probably the best PP option on the market (aside from Montour) at a cheap cap hit until 2026-27.
But Barron would be a good trade target (not necessarily in a Necas deal) for a young RD.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 5:08 p.m.
Thread:
Big move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>I know less about Barron’s situation, but I don’t think he would be on our list, unless we made moves elsewhere. Guhle very much sounds like the type of dman Fitzgerald as talked about.
And I would guess that Holtz or #10 pick would be on table.</div></div>
Oh there I agree with you! And for me, 10th overall 1 for 1 for Guhle is a fair trade imo. I still think MTL turns it down simply because they are looking at speeding up their rebuild, trading Guhle for a future asset does the opposite. But in terms of value it's fair.
Holtz however is not worth anywhere near a top 10 pick.
And thanks to your friend <a href="/users/dgibb10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@dgibb10</a>, he provided me a great competition tool that evaluates player matchups (Thanks again for the link!). And Holtz is the most sheltered player on NJD roster, and struggles defensively across the board. There's no way New Jersey gets their value back from where they selected him at 7th overall 4 years ago. There's no doubt he still has offensive potential, but he's much closer to being like Kaliyev in terms of value, those two are very comparable (Holtz being 1 year younger, Kaliyev with better pts per games stats).
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 4:49 p.m.
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Levshunov or Demidov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>squashmaple</b></div><div>As a Jackets fan, I want Chicago to pick Levshunov because that means Demidov probably falls to 4OA. As a Ducks fan, I want Chicago to pick Demidov so the Ducks get Levshunov (once Demidov is gone, I am not terribly pressed about who Columbus ends with). I just hope all of us get the best fit for our teams in the end. Except Montreal—I hope they end up having to settle for a defenseman because reading their fan reactions is always funny.</div></div>
As a Habs fan, if for whatever reason Habs end up selecting Levshunov (highly unlikely) or Silayev, I'd 100% be ok with that.
I still think they take Lindstrom or Demidov (if still there) and have Iginla as their backup option. All good choices imo
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 4:05 p.m.
Thread:
Big move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Kent Hughes can not give his best prospects NHL opportunities for the sake of a bunch of bottom pairing dman if he wants.
In NJD, barron would be waived.
Siegs-Hamilton
Hughes-Nemec
3LD-Marino
Bahl
And then Barron to waivers</div></div>
My bad, misunderstood your last comment.
My point wasn't about Barron fitting in NJD or a literal trade suggestion, more just a comparison in situation between Holtz and Barron (Both offensively minded, not overly physical, not being given a decent chance, Fans of their respective teams including them in a lot of their trades, etc.)
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 3:57 p.m.
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Big move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Barron has some value somewhere. Not in NJD.
NJD would still need to pick up an LD, and after that happens <strong>Barron would be placed on waivers</strong>.</div></div>
Not going to happen. If he's not moved this offseason, Kovacevic is likely gone and Barron will stick with the Habs.
If Hughes has proven anything since he's been GM, is he doesn't throw away assets. He ran with 3 goaltenders almost all year because he refused to waive Primeau. Barron is easily worth way more than Primeau, do you really think Hughes would waive him?! I don't think so.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Most Devils fans don’t want to trade Holtz. But since he has been in rumor mill, we are just reacting to what is being discussed.
Holtz played 4th line last year. For some reason, Lindy never liked him and never gave him a chance. In the few moments when he played top-6, he looked good, and we thought it was signs of things to come. But no, he would go right back to 4th line.
We have a new coach this year, so maybe it all changes. But anyone who has watched him play…or looked through his numbers would see a very promising player.</div></div>
Same could be said for Barron. He played primarily on the 3rd pair, but when he was paired with Matheson, he looked great. He also posted 7 goals in 48 games (very promising for a Dman). But due to the sheer quantity of Habs dmen, he never got a decent chance, and due to his waiver exemption, was sent down. If Harris or Kovacevic were waiver exempt, 100% Barron would have stuck around. But anyone who has watched him play…or looked through his numbers would see a very promising player.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 2:44 p.m.
Thread:
Big move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Montreal fanbase circa 2022
NJD fans saw daily trades from Montreal fans (Bratt + 2nd overall, Nemec + 2023 1st, etc).
MTL fans were 100% convinced that was Josh Anderson's value.
No, of course it never happened.
Fitzgerald never spoke to Hughes about Anderson, as multiple had to later report.</div></div>
And those are crazy propositions... I was one of the Anderson defenders back in the day, but I never thought Anderson was worth anything close to that.
but to loop things back to this conversation, what does some Habs crazies Anderson proposals from 2022 have to do with this? My initial comment is poking at the fact that NJD fans love explaining how good Holtz is compared to other players but proceed to include him in every single one of their trades.
Seems to me like he is NJD fans version of Justin Barron for Habs fans. Someone they value, but view as expendable, so they trade him in A LOT of mock trades.
So how's this for a trade: Holtz for Barron lol
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:54 p.m.
Thread:
Big move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Habs fans: <strong>Kent Hughes declined Nemec + 1st for Josh Anderson </strong>
Habs fans: Kent Hughes should keep his job</div></div>
show receipts... because that never happened
EDIT: and if that's what Fitzgerald offered for Anderson...he should be equally fired lol
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 1:45 p.m.
Thread:
Big move
NJD fans: Holtz is great! Better than *insert player name*, etc. etc.
Also NJD fans: *includes Holtz in pretty much all their mock trades...*
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