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Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 minutes ago
Thread:
wagon
I'm fairly certain Seattle would decline that offer. It's not really worth it for them to give up Borgen and a second round pick to swap Daccord for Knight when it's debatable whether that exchange would even be an upgrade in net at all for the Kraken.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 minutes ago
Thread:
Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JamieG613</b></div><div>What do you think of Wright + Larsson?</div></div>
I've seen that floated around a bunch, and personally I'm not a fan of the idea. I wouldn't want the Kraken to trade Larsson (and really would like to see him extended) just because of the outsized role he plays on the Kraken blue line and the fruitful partnership he's had with Dunn. However, he's not necessarily an instant deal-breaker because he's also on an expiring contract. Wright, on the other hand, I don't see Seattle entertaining trading whatsoever. His development has taken a bit longer than expected, but he's still on track to be a well above-average well-rounded top six center. The Kraken have constructed their roster in such a way to seamlessly slide Wright into the lineup, and I expect him to make an impact on the big club as soon as next season. I strongly doubt Seattle will even consider trading a player they've invested so much in for someone who is a rental until proven otherwise when they're likely more than one move away from Stanley Cup contention.
Long story short, I don't think Marner for Larsson/Wright is hugely lopsided either way, but that sort of trade doesn't really make a whole lot of sense for the Kraken right now given their current franchise trajectory and roster construction.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
Leafs
Any Marner trade proposal involving Vince Dunn going the other way is a non-starter. He's their best defenseman and a key part of their roster for both the present and future. Dunn's importance to the team was demonstrated last season when their performance cratered following his injury. The Kraken need scoring, but there are many ways they can boost that without sacrificing one of their team cornerstones.
As for the whole Marner-to-Seattle idea, I think the Kraken will at least do their due diligence and kick the tires on a deal, but the only way I see a trade being made is if it's for another forward with draft capital to balance out the talent discrepancy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 hour ago
Thread:
Based on the Tkachuk Trade
A couple of issues with comparing your proposed Columbus trade to the Tkachuk deal:
1. Tkachuk was an RFA who basically had a shortlist of teams he'd sign long term with. So any team making a trade for him would be able to lock him up for several years, as Florida did. Marner could use his NMC to do the same, giving Toronto a chance to extract more value, but that's not a given. For the time being, he's a rental until proven otherwise.
2. The two roster players Calgary got in return, Huberdeau and Weegar, were both one year away from free agency at the time of the trade. Both ended up extending, but for a while there it was looking like both would be one year rentals. By contrast, both Jenner and Werenski are under contract for several more seasons. As a result, they hold more trade value and Columbus will be less likely to part with them.
3. At the time of the Tkachuk trade, the Panthers were coming off a Presidents' trophy win. Tkachuk was viewed by Florida as the final piece they needed for a cup push. By contrast, Columbus is coming off a season where they finished 4th worst in the league and are not one piece away from contention. Trading multiple key players and draft picks for Marner when they are still rebuilding isn't a move that makes sense for them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 hours ago
Thread:
Serious rebuild
That is going to be a hard no from Seattle. Nichushkin has had numerous off-ice incidents and just got himself suspended for the next six months at least. The Kraken will have zero interest in trading two of their key players for a guy who, for all his talent, won't be a contributor for a good chunk of the next season at minimum and can't seem to stop getting in trouble.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:04 p.m.
Thread:
Trading 11OVR
Considering how important Larsson and McCann are to the Kraken roster as currently constructed, I can't see Seattle making that trade. They'd probably just extend Larsson themselves and keep him and McCann rather than deal them for futures.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:22 a.m.
Thread:
Lets Get Crazy
I can't see Seattle making that trade. They've structured their blue line with an eye towards incorporating Evans into it full time in the near future, and he had a solid showing in his debut NHL season. At this point he's a more promising player than Jones, and a distant third round pick doesn't move the needle nearly enough.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 4:29 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild and compete
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fruad</b></div><div>He can be a vet 4c on a rebuilding team I ment to retain 50% tho</div></div>
His hip injury makes it unlikely he'll be able to take the ice again, meaning he wouldn't be able to fill that veteran 4C role for the Flyers or anyone else. The only way I see him getting moved is if a cap-strapped team takes him as an LTIR-eligible contract and sends some salary back the Flyers' way.
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 4:17 p.m.
Thread:
What I would like to see
Well, just about every team not named the Flyers would decline those offers before Briere is finished making them. Some explanations as to why for each deal:
1. Gaudreau has a full NMC and is much more productive than Atkinson. This is probably one of the only trade ideas that has a modicum of a chance of happening due to their respective contracts but I still don't see it.
2. Peterson spent most of this past season in the AHL. With his cap hit, he's still has negative trade value.
3 and 4. Ellis and Johansen's hockey careers are all but over due to injury. The Flyers aren't getting anything of value for them, they'll likely remain on IR/LTIR until their contracts expire.
5. Hathaway's a bottom six forward. He won't fetch a first round pick in a trade (or a second, for that matter). Trades like the Goodrow/Jeannot deals are the exception, not the rule.
6. That's the type of return you'd get for an elite player, which Laughton is not. Laughton is a solid middle six forward with versatility, but his trade value is not and has never been anywhere near that high. He strikes me who's value to the Flyers exceeds his value to other teams, so I doubt he's going anywhere.
7. I guess I could see a team tossing a late round pick the Flyers' way for Poehling, but I doubt it'll be as high as a fourth, since Poehling was non-tendered just last offseason.
8. UPL had a breakout campaign, I doubt the Sabres are itching to trade one half of their present/future tandem when they've finally achieved some stability with it.
9. Beniers is the cornerstone of the Kraken franchise and basically untouchable. He's not going anywhere anytime soon, especially not <em>with picks</em> for an AHL defenseman and a noticeably inferior center.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 4:03 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild and compete
Due to injury, Johansen's career as a hockey player is all but over. No team, whether it be the Kraken or anyone else, is going to give up any draft capital for him, not even a sixth rounder. I expect the Flyers to put him on IR/LTIR until his contract expires in a year.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
May 7 at 12:55 p.m.
Thread:
An actual reasonable marner trade
I can't see Seattle making or considering that offer. Marner, for as good as he is, is a rental until proven otherwise. Dunn is an integral piece of the Kraken team, and if they're trading for Marner, it would be to make a push this season, a path with which trading away their best defenseman is incompatible.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 3 at 4:15 a.m.
Thread:
offseason
Yeah, Seattle's not that desperate to get rid of Grubauer. Their cap sheet is clean enough that they can afford to roll with him as Daccord's backup for another year, and even if they were looking to shed his cap hit, a buyout would be the preferable option.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 2 at 1:24 a.m.
Thread:
dont mess with the kids
I don't think Seattle's in a position where paying to dump Burakovsky is a sensible move or one they need to make. His struggles with Seattle over his first two seasons have been injury related. When he's had a consistent run of games with the Kraken he's produced. It's no secret that Seattle needs to boost their scoring, and a healthy Burakovsky would go a long way in that effort. Not to mention, Seattle has a clean enough cap sheet to where they can go shopping for offensive help without needing to dump anyone.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1 at 4:12 p.m.
Thread:
Utah is a Playoff Team
Seattle's not going to go for that. Contrary to what you stated in the description, McCann isn't expendable. He's held down top-six center roles for the Kraken, but is just as comfortable on the wing, so he can easily move there. In fact, McCann was primarily a winger last year when Seattle made their playoff run. He's also the Kraken's best goalscorer, and Seattle's a team that needs to add scoring, not subtract it. Trading McCann would be counterproductive for the Kraken, and I don't see him going anywhere anytime soon.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1 at 5:28 a.m.
Thread:
24-25
Considering how well Tolvanen has fit in Seattle, and how he is young enough to still be a prime-age contributor by the time Beniers, Wright, and other prospects come into their own, I think the Kraken would just hang onto him instead of dealing him for a draft pick.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 7:11 p.m.
Thread:
Michkov time
Johansen's career is over due to injury. Neither the Kraken nor any other team are going to pay anything, not even a 7th, for him. The Flyers will likely just place him on IR/LTIR until his contract expires next offseason.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 4:37 p.m.
Thread:
Fixing the Leafs and trading core pieces
Dunn is a big reason why Seattle's defense is so good. To me this trade would be filling one hole while creating another. Seattle does need scoring, but there will be avenues for them to do that this offseason that don't involve trading their best defenseman, and I think they will pursue those options rather than making a deal like this.
Another thing to keep in mind is that Marner, for as good as he is, is a rental until proven otherwise in a trade. Dunn by contrast has three years left on his contract. I can't really see the Kraken being all that willing to give up a core piece of their roster along with a high first round pick for someone who might only be around for a year when such a trade on its own likely isn't enough to make them an elite cup contender.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 29 at 12:17 p.m.
Thread:
DRAFT IGINLA PLUS TRADE UP FOR SENNECKE
According to multiple draft pick value charts, the difference in value between the 8th overall pick and the 24th overall pick is equivalent to a late first rounder. I highly doubt Harris has that sort of trade value right now. Even if he did, the Kraken have a full blue line at the moment and will likely want to keep a starting spot open for Ryker Evans to continue his development, so I can't see them being all that interested in Harris. The Kraken are better served sticking at 8 and adding another top prospect to their pipeline than moving down 16 spots just to add a defenseman they don't really ned.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 29 at 12:46 a.m.
Thread:
Playoff bound
I believe Seattle would decline that trade. Daccord's been a real find for the Kraken and finally provided them with some stability in net. I doubt the Kraken are going to be all that willing to swap him and his bargain deal for another pricey goalie who hasn't lived up to his contract with Grubauer still around.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 29 at 12:42 a.m.
Thread:
Next Year
I think Seattle will just stick with the young defenseman they already have. Evans is poised to have a full-time role in the NHL next year and the Kraken power play looked more lively when he was running it this season. He had strong possession metrics and didn't look too shabby especially when paired with a defensive blueliner like Larsson or Dumoulin. Personally I think Evans' ceiling is higher than Jones' at this point, which better fits what the Kraken need.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 11:42 p.m.
Thread:
The only realistic moves that make an impact
Seattle has spent the past two seasons developing Wright and preparing for him to take his place in the Kraken's center corps. They aren't going to be trading him anytime soon, and certainly not for that package. A bulk offer of three bottom six/AHL players, three interesting but significantly lower rated prospects, and a third round pick three drafts away for a top center prospect isn't going to be enticing. This is a case where quantity does not equal quality.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 16 at 7:51 p.m.
Thread:
Categorizing Each Teams 1C Post 23-24
I'd say Beniers should be in the Too Early to Tell category. He's only played two full seasons in the NHL and it'll be a few more before he reaches his peak. For that matter, Bedard probably belongs in the Too Early to Tell category as well; for all the hype surrounding him he's still a rookie and it'll take a few years before we can see how he truly stacks up against the other 1Cs of the league.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 13 at 11:29 p.m.
Thread:
Reunion with tre
Seattle would decline that trade. They need Borgen more than Mangiapane. For all of Seattle's scoring woes, they actually have a plethora of capable middle six wingers; it's the top end scoring that they're lacking. Adding another guy in that middle-six mold in Mangiapane isn't worth losing a key piece of their defense in Borgen.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 12 at 2:12 a.m.
Thread:
Seattle Rebuild Begins
Everything Seattle has been doing since their inception as a franchise has been part of their multi-year building process, with their true peak still yet to come. They're not about to backpedal and reset that whole timeline. With that in mind, I have a hard time seeing the Kraken trade one of their leading scorers to a division rival when they are in need of more scoring, not less.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 7 at 4:53 p.m.
Thread:
Seattle
Honestly I don't see how this trade makes sense for either side. Florida's right in the middle of their cup window, and Ekblad's a crucial piece of that, so I don't know why they'd consider moving him. Seattle's competitive timeline is farther out in the future, so trading for a rental defenseman doesn't really add up for them either. Not to mention, the Kraken have a good defensive group already but have a need for more scoring up front. Trading one of their top scorers for a blueliner, even one as good as Ekblad, would be counterproductive.
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