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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:19 a.m.
Thread: If the cup ends early
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>No they made it pretty clear that they have no intention of doing that even if the opportunity arises.

Who's underrating Leafs? Byfield is a beast and is going to continue being a beast for many long years to come. There is no world where you can possibly think 1 year of Marner has more value than 5+ years of Byfield and Dubois</div></div>

1 time 55 point player vs a guy whos been at a 100 point pace for the last 4 years and is excellent defensively lmao. Marner has insane value and anyone pretending otherwise is being silly.
I obviously like Byfield but yeah, Marner is being vastly underrated. Besides we all know that wherever he ends up will almost certainly be where Mitch signs due to his NMC.

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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CowanDeBrabarian</b></div><div>LA probably block your number. Marner is a top tier player, but LA would be insane to do this. Cost control young promising star vs 1 year of huge expense on a perimeter player.

Also, you'd have to add something sweeter to the VAN trade. They'll take Lil, but need another roster player or ripe prospect to make it work.</div></div>

I don't see Hronek getting more than this. Frankly I think the Leafs are losing this trade (I'm a big Liljegren guy)
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsThu. at 10:16 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I think it would be dumb not to have him there... He actually had his 1rst 80+ game season since his rookie year while playing PK, with the only game he missed was from ilness (from mulitple guys being in his home filming for the TV show, I'd have to imagine, considering he doesn't usually get this sick all the time)

I think Berube knows he has time to tinker with the lineup during the RS, so why not try Cowan with Matthews on PK2, what's the worst that can happen? Cowan not do well in G5 of the RS and gets pulled off?

I'm not expecting Cowan do be anything more than my expectation for Knies (i.e. just try to contribute every game, not on the Gs and As categories, but the small stuff like puck battles) IF he makes the team

Best thing TOR can do is get ELCs on their team (which would help with Grebonkin as 4RW with Reavo, Minten, Cowan, Niemela, giving Webber reps at 7D and Knies) look at all of the cup winning teams, you need bargain players... On top of those ELCs, you'll have McMann, Woll and Benoit making peanuts...

Trade Marner for more types of these players and draft picks and go from there... But Berube will get the most out of Cowan if he displays confidence in him, like London's done</div></div>

I think if Cowan gets 13-15 mins a night in the top 6 he can get us 30-50 points (call it 40). He's a playmaker, so putting him in the Domi spot with Matthews makes a lot of sense I think
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 12:49 a.m.
Thread: If no one makes a decent offer for Ullmark
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>Primarily because great goalies generally don’t get traded unless there are cap reasons pushing it. There are only a few examples recently where that wasn’t the case and most provided atleast a late first rounder in terms of return.

I don’t use the two Taylor Hall deals as a mechanism that forwards are cheap now. Both had drivers behind them, but that doesn’t stop this narrative that goalies are “cheap”

3 of the last 4 has outstanding goalies and we saw how bad goaltending just neutered some up and coming teams.

What the original poster said was pretty accurate. Ullmark likely will provide more value to the team this year than the first round pick will over the next 8. Most late first rounders turn into fringe AHL players. The primary value for trading him next year is probably the player they sign with that money.

For cap health, it probably does make sense that his $5M be an expiring.</div></div>

Justify it all you want, but you are going to joining the many people who somehow get shocked when goalies don't get huge returns if he gets moved. It happens every time, so don't feel too bad about yourself
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsWed. at 7:15 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>Craig Button has him at 15, which is his own personal ranking. Bob, who's list is usually far more reflective of reality, has him at 45 (though that was mid-season and he is on the rise). And most other outlets have him in that area as well, though some have him in the 20-30 range.</div></div>

Yeah the lists are a bit out of date. That's a first rounder. Pronman has him mocked to STL at 16.

Which speaking of, thinking we could probably pick up another 1st from CAR. They have 27 (Sandin got 28) and we know Lily would be a real Canes guy. Plus they're losing 2 expensive D and need to replace the spot.

Grab a guy like EJ Emery at 27 (6'3 RH DFD)
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsWed. at 3:11 a.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue. at 6:45 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>I wouldn't think so</div></div>

Personally, I think Lily is much better (and so does Keefe for that matter, 20 mins a night vs 16 this year)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Jones?!?! What a joke</div></div>

Directly linked in rumours with Trev, which is why I have him included here.
Besides he is still a decent NHL D, just not a #1 worth 9.5. I'd put him in a 2nd pair minute munching role with a puck mover no problem.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>What do you think of Chatfield and where he can be slotted</div></div>

I know he exists lmao

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Jones salary way to high to absorb.</div></div>

We are about to re orient a lot of money towards the D core. We can do it with Jones at 7.5. It basically puts a cap on our D at 7.5 aav.

Stepping into Trev's shoes, I'm thinking something like:

Mo-Roy
Zadorov-Jones
Benny-McCabe
Raifai

Expensive for sure, but I think it would be okay