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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31 at 3:37 p.m.
Thread: Necas Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>You say "60-point player, 25-goal scorer" rather dismissively. Those numbers are each better than anyone you have except Suzuki and Caufield. Harris is a third-pairing defenseman, as you say. The difference between them is more than #26 overall, and your initial feeling (before anyone commented) that you'd probably have to add a second or a third (or some similar value) is accurate, in my opinion.</div></div>

Nono, I didn't mean to dismiss at all. That's pretty good. Its a 2d line winger on a good team.
Hold on though. Yes, on surface Caufield and Suzuki are the only ones with better numbers, but Dach,Newhook, Slafkovsky still have higher ceilings in my opinion (although Newhook maybe has fewer chances and Dach is injury prone, yes) I'm not sure what you're saying on this point.
My initial feeling was 'mid-round'. I was thinking 3rd or 4th maybe. 2nd would be too much for me.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31 at 2:48 p.m.
Thread: Necas Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Necas is fighting for more PP time because when he got it...he was a 71 point player and now Jarvis jumped him. That likely affects his contract and certainly at least 1 reason why he's unhappy and wants to leave.

Jordan Harris is very hard to value. He was made a healthy scratch for at least 4 games because Jayden Struble showed up...which it's not like Struble's a lock for a top 4 either. Lots of MTL Dmen are on the fringe and it's not like you can claim him to be a 2nd pair Dman...so yeah 3rd pair floor, but not too much higher ceiling does sound right. MTL also NEEDS to find homes for all their Dmen so any Jordan Harris trade is from a position of weakness. Teams aren't lining up to solve other team's issues.</div></div>

I agree with 80% of what you said. I don't think Mtl has 'issues' on defense. Obviously trading Harris and Barron are our priority but, having cost controlled dmen is always a positive.
Mtl could, instead, trade Matheson or Savard, but that would probably be worse for us. I don't think Mtl is "backed into a corner".
Conversly, I think Carolina's cap situation and UFAs on the back end are a weakness. They can't sign all those dmen and Necas in my opinion.
But ok, thanks for sharing.