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Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Yesterday at 1:27 a.m.
Thread:
An actual reasonable marner trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bee</b></div><div>Yes leafs accept</div></div>
Of course they would. Which is why Seattle would not.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Yesterday at 1:13 a.m.
Thread:
Marner to San Jose to play with CelebriniSmith
San Jose is more likely than not to be one of the worst teams in the NHL again next season, I highly doubt they want to trade their 2025 1st round pick, along with the 14th overall in this draft, an early 2nd this year and a few good players/prospects to acquire a $10.9m softie who will expect a raise after next season, an average, injury prone defenceman and a 3rd round pick 3 drafts from now.
And for the love of god, enough with putting UFAs in these off-season deals, why the hell would Samsonov matter to the Sharks in this trade when he will only cost money, not assets, on the open market???
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Trade Machine Proposals
Mon. at 10:49 p.m.
Thread:
Hofer - Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Firm no thanks.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Arkelly</b></div><div>Definitely not going to happen. No where close to Chychrun’s worth.</div></div>
Haha. Blues fan says no chance. Sens fan says no chance for the opposite reason.
Hofer is a future long-term number one goaltender. Given how few of those there are to go around, and throwing in a reliable middle six winger as well? Chychrun isn't worth that. I have no idea who Merilainen is or how good he is/can be, but at first glance the Blues wouldn't want anything to do with this.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Mon. at 10:45 p.m.
Thread:
MARNER LMFAO
Guys we really have to stop this nonsense of including UFAs in deals at this time of year. It's entirely meaningless.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Mon. at 10:31 p.m.
Thread:
Boston Pizza Special
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>That'll get Markstrom but if you want Andersson too you'll have to add to that. Ottawa probably declines anyhow if all they get for 7th OA is 1 year of soft overpaid Marner. An early 2nd and a late 3rd don't change the value equation nearly enough to matter.</div></div>
It's a moot point, Samsonov is a UFA-to-be anyway and doesn't need to be traded for. His presence in this deal doesn't mean a thing when it comes to evaluating it. It becomes Markstrom (50% retention), Andersson and a 2025 2nd for 7th OA 2024 and a 5th. Doesn't cut it.
If it was just Markstrom and Andersson leaving, no retention, it would be tempting to get another top 10 pick, Alberta boy Carter Yakemchuk may just be available at 7th, another right shot D to go along with Hunter B in the prospect pool. But I'd want something a little more than a 5th rounder in addition to that.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Sat. at 2:47 p.m.
Thread:
NJD-CGY pick swaps Huberdeau reset on contender
I don't see a need for New Jersey to swap players like that, plus, yeah that 10th OA is going to be a solid player versus a 2026 probably mid-late 1st.. the Devils shouldn't need more offence with Hughes, Bratt, Hischier, Meier, Mercer and Holtz up front (the latter two of which should boost their production). Palat has the Stanley Cup pedigree as well, very useful for a team of youngsters trying to make their way in hopefully another playoff year in 2024-25.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Fri. at 12:24 a.m.
Thread:
If Washington leans more rebuild than re-tool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>dylan strome is a nice player.
do you know how rare it is that a teenager can play center in the NHL, for a good team no less? right there, it's a hard pass. no shot the bruins would trade poitras for strome...who again, is a nice player. but he's not special. then add in the teams top prospect, the reigning vezina winner, and a first. you kidding me?</div></div>
Yes, Poitras showed pretty well. But I'll wait for him to be a consistent 60+ point producer in the NHL before saying this is a garbage idea... Lysell hasn't even cracked the NHL yet. The Bruins, with a pretty light prospect pool, should be trying to win another Cup within the next few years before Marchand is done. Strome, I think, gives them a much better chance of doing that.
Ullmark is not part of the Strome part of the deal, don't mischaracterize that. Holtz didn't have the best year, but still had 16 goals playing an average of just 11:18 per game, and was a 7th overall pick. The chances he is a "bust" after a less than stellar first full season are low, in my humble opinion. A risk for the Devils to trade, as just like Zacha, the guy might just turn into a great top six scorer, and add a young body to the Bruins roster immediately and for many years to come. When Holtz was in the AHL, he was a PPG player, a little better than Lysell. As the higher draft pick and bigger player, I'd take him over Lysell.
You need to know I very, very, very rarely make "on paper" only proposals. I've thought about the fact that the Bruins will be looking to move Ullmark anyway, that Holtz has a lot of potential yet to meet, but also that unless they go total rebuild, their Cup window is now, and they'll have considerable trouble maintaining it beyond the next few years unless they're able to make lucky and/or genius moves in the free agent market as Marchand's career winds to a close (Draisaitl after next year?).
I think Strome could easily hit 80 points on the B's top line. I don't think Poitras can, at least for another few years, should he be able to get there. I respect that you don't like the deal, but I won't accede that it is as "garbage" as you think it is.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Thu. at 4:12 p.m.
Thread:
If Washington leans more rebuild than re-tool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>what more could i say for such a ridiculously awful trade? if it was close it might warrant some conversation. if someone walked up to you and said, "i'll give you 10 bucks for 100 bucks," do you sit around and negotiate? no. you just say no.</div></div>
You seem incapable of explaining how two players with little to nothing to show for in the NHL to this point are so much better than a 27 goal 67 point center who put up those numbers on a very average team. You just saying "it isn't worth my time" is meaningless to me, especially since you did in fact take the time to respond to it.
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Trade Machine Proposals
May 1 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread:
If Washington leans more rebuild than re-tool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>ya, boston doesn't even consider this - this is awful. take out poitras and the first and tehy might still say no. ew.</div></div>
How could I argue with such an eloquent argument!
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Trade Machine Proposals
May 1 at 11:57 a.m.
Thread:
If Washington leans more rebuild than re-tool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Element23VM</b></div><div>I have no interest in Ullmark... had Boston started Swayman last year vs Florida the whole series, they'd have 16-4'd a cup run
Swayman isn't even "elite", but Ullmark is elite**
** denotes that when games get big, he can't make the save... one of those guys that gets in his own way
If you're a young man, you'll be like nooooo... but if you're middle aged and you've watched teams get f'ed over for years by costly goaltending at crucial times, you'll get it.</div></div>
Believe me, I've seen a lot. Luongo may have been that guy, but he got to game 7 of the Cup Final. Sucked big time in the games played in Boston, but still got there. Game 7 could have gone differently, you just never know. Jose Theodore won a vezina and hart in the same year didn't he? But could never quite lead his team anywhere. Even Carey Price took the Habs to the Covid Final, but he didn't finish it off either. Evgeni Nabokov couldn't get the Sharks over the hump, but was it really his fault? Curtis Joseph was a great goalie but never won a Cup, but I don't think it was all his fault either.
I hear you, but I don't honestly believe it was Ullmark's fault the Bruins lost last year. He was playing hurt, right? Between him and the coach, he shouldn't have even been in some of those games, but put some of that blame on the coach for keeping the rotation going.
If you're looking for a goaltender for New Jersey, you'll be hard pressed to find a goaltender around the league right now that is guaranteed to be "the guy" ... Jake Oettinger, great but hasn't proven anything - Vasilevskiy, great but couldn't keep the puck out of the net sometimes against Florida. Bobrovsky, great, but at least last year screwed the pooch in the Final. Even Patrick Roy and Martin Brodeur had their moments. Mike Vernon went from winning a Cup in '89 to being undressed and beaten "like a rented mule" by Pavel Bure in OT game 7 in 1994's first round. Won a Cup again 3 years later. Point being, the options are slim. Markstrom, Ullmark, possibly Saros ... who else is available? None of them have proven anything at all, really, except in the regular season.
Besides, Darcy Kuemper proved you don't need the best goalie in the league to win a Cup if you have the right team in front of him.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
May 1 at 1:39 a.m.
Thread:
If Washington leans more rebuild than re-tool
Italics are RFAs or UFAs, except DiPietro, which I messed up lol.
Washington: If the Capitals lean more rebuild than retool, Dylan Strome would be past 30 by the time they start getting anywhere. They acquire a younger center in Matthew Poitras and a young right winger in Fabian Lysell, both smaller guys, but they have time to build around them with bigger guys. Poitras showed a few flashes of brilliance in his short stint, and Lysell has picked things up in the AHL, just under a point per game this season. McMichael, Lapierre, Poitras and Protas would all be options for them at center going forward, as well as anyone they may draft. They also grab an additional 1st round pick for 2026. Let's assume T.J. Oshie decides he needs to hang 'em up on account of the poor condition of his body at this point of his career.
Ovechkin - Lapierre - Wilson
Milano - Poitras - Protas
Miroschnichenko - <em>McMichael</em> - Lysell
<em>Malenstyn</em> - Dowd - Sgarbossa
Boston: Trades the two youngsters Poitras and Lysell, and their 2026 1st round pick to acquire a number one center in Dylan Strome, former 3rd overall pick who's been a consistent 20 goal, 65 point scorer with the Capitals, and could take off playing between Marchand and Pastrnak. Excellent set up man for Pasta and currently 27 years old. They also trade Linus Ullmark to the Devils for Alexander Holtz, one for one. See the Devils write-up.
<em>Swayman</em> - <em>Bussi/DiPietro/UFA</em>
Lindholm - McAvoy
Lohrei - Carlo
TBD - Peeke
Marchand - Strome - Pastrnak
<em>DeBrusk</em> - Zacha - Holtz
Frederic - Geekie - Coyle
Lauko - Beecher - Brazeau
New Jersey: Trades Alexander Holtz, who didn't quite show as well as he or the team would have liked this past season, for their goaltender in Linus Ullmark. The Devils, as a condition of this trade, get to speak to Ullmark about an extension beforehand, see what level of interest the goalie has in staying on the east coast to play for an up and coming team.
Ullmark - Allen
Hughes - Hamilton
Siegenthaler - Nemec
Bahl - Marino
Bratt - Hughes - <em>Mercer</em>
Palat - Hischier - Meier
<em>Foote</em> - Haula - <em>Halonen/UFA</em>
Bastian/<em>UFA</em> - Lazar - <em>Clarke</em>
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 30 at 6:29 p.m.
Thread:
Det - Tor Great Lake robbery
No chance Raymond is traded unless perhaps Draisaitl or McDavid is offered. The Wings just like him too much and for good reason.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 30 at 2:35 p.m.
Thread:
If Vegas dosent win the Cup
Marchessault will be a UFA, there is no reason for anyone to trade for him at all.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 29 at 10:52 p.m.
Thread:
Minnesota trade Rossi to Utah for Guenther
Interesting. If it is true what other(s) have said, that Guerin wants to move on from Rossi already, and I don't understand why myself, Guenther would be an excellent add. For that reason it would be difficult for Utah to move on from him, but Rossi would certainly improve their center ice position/depth.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 29 at 9:49 p.m.
Thread:
Not likely to happen and likely to be hated lets do this
Italics means a free agent (both RFA and UFA)
Let's face it, most Kraken players had a down year, and I expect the trio going to Toronto to be better. Marner gets to leave the media hellscape of Toronto. It may seem like a Toronto loss on paper (to Leafs fans), but changing the dynamic of the roster is long overdue.
Toronto: All three of these players have nice hit stats. Larsson improves the D, Gourde gives them an excellent veteran 3rd line center who can still put up between 35-45 points in a good year, and Eeli Tolvanen is still young and can improve on his 16 goal, 41 point season. Larsson and Gourde sign extensions for Toronto's "cup window". Timmins is sent along as he is injury prone yet fills Larsson's absence in Seattle.
Rielly - Larsson
Benoit - <em>Liljegren</em>
McCabe - Webber/UFA
<em>Domi</em> - Matthews - Nylander
Knies - Tavares - <em>Tolvanen</em>
<em>Robertson</em> - Gourde - McMann
Holmberg - Kampf - Jarnkrok
Reaves
Perhaps can swap Robertson to 2L and Knies to 3L to start next year. Robertson had better offensive numbers than Knies in terms of PPG, and it would give the Leafs a very heavy playing 3rd line.
Seattle: A team entering their fourth season, they trade two aging players in Larsson and Gourde and acquire a younger Mitch Marner, whose 85 points can probably be replicated with proper seasons from Beniers and McCann and the rest. Gives Beniers some star power to work with and changes the dynamic of their team as well. Before he got hurt, Timmins was having a nice start to the season as a reliable puck moving defender, and 10 points in 25 games. Still a risk as he has only managed 25 games in each of the past two seasons, and the most he has played is 31 games (2020-21).
Dunn - <em>UFA (Sean Walker?)</em>
Evans - Borgen
Oleksiak - Timmins
Dumoulin/Fleury
McCann - <em>Beniers</em> - Marner
Burakovsky - Wright - Eberle
Schwartz - <em>UFA</em> - Bjorkstrand
Kartye - Tanev - Firkus/<em>UFA</em>
Forum:
Simulateur de Transactions
Apr. 29 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs need change- chicago help for bedard and Calgary built with nylander
Marner is showing his true colors. Whiny, but also a disappearing act when it matters most. These proposals for him, and his likely $11.5m ask on his next deal, are insane.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 29 at 6:03 p.m.
Thread:
Chad Johnson
Why the Sens would trade heart and soul for 3 ply charmin ultra is beyond me.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 29 at 12:15 a.m.
Thread:
Hear me out CHI also retains 50 on Hall TOR below floor tho
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rhea</b></div><div>Well its big.</div></div>
That's about it lol. Tkachuk and Chychrun out, two 20-something 1st rounders and Minten in, deserves an audacity award. Minten will have to convince me that he's THAT good with some proper NHL playing time.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 27 at 2:29 p.m.
Thread:
too much for marco
I don't think the Wild want to trade Rossi at all. He is one of their promising young forwards, this return is an older, injury prone player, an OK defenceman, a later 1st and a mid 2nd next year. Screams "Joe Thornton trade" in that quality exits for OK quantity pieces.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 26 at 11:31 p.m.
Thread:
Getting inside the head of Lou
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>No way Lou trades away a goalie.
In fact Lou has been the guy who's paid probably the 2 biggest goalie prices of the last decade.</div></div>
I'm being quite facetious with this one my friend! Dubois in this case is the next Horvat for him (somewhat of a savior figure), except Horvat is better.
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 26 at 11:21 p.m.
Thread:
Getting inside the head of Lou
Should he keep his job, thinking like Lou thinks, he trades Sorokin to LA for Dubois before both of their clauses kick in.
The Kings, of course, are over the moon, and Sorokin rediscovers his game and leads the Kings to a Cup in a couple of years when Byfield and Clarke become real studs.
For next season the difference in the cap hit is $250,000
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 24 at 10:01 p.m.
Thread:
Zebra to Flyers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>He was injured all year with the same injury that kept Couture out nearly all year</div></div>
I know he was hurt, don't get me wrong, I wasn't suggesting he only played 30 odd games due to scratches!
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 24 at 8:54 p.m.
Thread:
Zebra to Flyers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Yeah that is not going to work just like how Zegras and Torts wouldn’t work</div></div>
I know you think Zegras is a god, but he's a guy with two 60 point seasons who struggled this past season to find his footing, when he was able to play. I'm not saying he's bad, obviously, but honestly, unless it was someone with Draisaitl's talent, I doubt you would find anything acceptable for him. No offense, but it feels like you're the Mox of Ducks fans lol. Furthermore, I simply don't have the doubts about a working relationship with Tortorella you do!
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 24 at 8:09 p.m.
Thread:
Zebra to Flyers
The Flyers acquire Trevor Zegras, hoping Tortorella can mould him into a number one center, the game breaker he was drafted to be. The Ducks acquire a 14th overall pick in Joel Farabee, who broke out a little offensively in 2023-24, and a 34th overall pick in Bobby Brink, who didn't play well enough to earn much ice time on the Flyers this past season, but isn't a bust and can grow into a good offensive player himself (capfriendly's scouting report has him with a 79 rating with 2nd line potential/talent level). I'm sending Boston's 2nd round pick to the Flyers as well, just looking at it from Daniel Briere's perspective.
Ana: Cutter Gauthier plays lower in the lineup to start his NHL career, so he can learn more of the all-round game. He'd still be on the 1st PP. Killorn moves down to line 3 once Farabee and Gauthier are more established with the team.
Killorn - Carlsson - Terry
<em>Farabee</em> - McTavish - Vatrano
Gauthier - Strome - <em>Brink</em>
Lundestrom - Groulx - Leason
Johnston
Phi:
Tippett - <em>Zegras</em> - Konecny
Frost - Couturier - Foerster
Cates - Laughton - Atkinson
DesLauriers - Poehling - Hathaway
Lycksell
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Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 24 at 7:08 p.m.
Thread:
Hockeyking type trade
You forgot to retain 50% on Drai and Mc.
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