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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsFri. at 8:21 p.m.
Thread: New head coach options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>In STL towards the end many of the good players were underperforming, Binnington's attitude was becoming an issue along with his play, and Armstrong kept bringing in the wrong people to fill the team out. Look at what Blues fan said when he was fired. They believed it should have been Armstrong as he was the actual problem.

Berube will have Matthew and Nylander and if they aint moved Marner and JT to work with or in other words Berube will have better offensive weapons to work with here in TOR and once Brad revamps the Dcore will have a pretty good Dcore to also work with, get a proper starter and they are set. Team needs a proper work ethic as we saw it numerous times when momentum shifted they just failed to adapt or the big boyz didnt step it up. Getting called out more, benched, or having a tougher coach in general will help with that.

But basically sure he wont have a Pietrangelo to work with but the trade off is he has Auston Matthews</div></div>

I don't know man.
This roster will be alot more like the Blues roster after the cup then during the cup.

Be afraid with your hopes, I'm see the glass half empty more than half full.


My expectations were a Stanley cup bu now that Berube is hired, I'm thinking way lower.
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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsThu. at 7:04 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div><a href="https://twitter.com/GarretHohl/status/1785160810836423111?t=qJp0tl1K3f9nqU-4FruoRQ&amp;s=19" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Seems like a decent bet</a>

<a href="https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1734322007221653695?t=2ovfCIGMrkE4qOnmnGXafQ&amp;s=19" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Seems like a really decent bet</a></div></div>

I hear you but we are quick look at jT after this be like, lost a step.

Coots hasn't played much due to injuries, has lots term on his deal and and his production is less than even half that of JT.

I like Coots, but taking pause before to consider all the potential downsides of adding him is a must.

And what is going to be cost to get him?
Especially since you expressed the idea of keeping Marner due to cowbell offers.
Is there cap to still revamp the D???
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsThu. at 5:47 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>I just had an idea so crazy, it might be genius.

Scenario: no one offers anything good for Mitch. We keep him.

Even if the lines are different in reg season, plan for a playoffs with Mitch in a defensive 3rd line role since that is how he tends to perform.

Find a centre good enough to play offensively, but also be used in a DFC role.

RoR was the guy, but he's a **** so our next option is...

Sean Couturier

Have Philly hold 2.75, even if we have to pay up for it and roll something like this:

1st: Matthews, Domi
2nd: Jt, Nylander
3rd: Holmberg, Coots, Marner
4th: Dewar, Kampf

Mo-
Benny-McCabe
Raifai-Timmins

Woll

Fill in the blanks with kids/signed players</div></div>

Do you think Coots, Couturier, is back to form now and worth his contract?<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>I think he has looked okay. I have Philly holding a large % of the deal for a reason though.

It's a bet. A crazy, crazy bet. But prior to injuries he was arguably a top 5 C. I think he could be worth 5 mil for us and play this role</div></div>

Agree he was top5 like C but where is he I that respect now
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsThu. at 4:53 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>I just had an idea so crazy, it might be genius.

Scenario: no one offers anything good for Mitch. We keep him.

Even if the lines are different in reg season, plan for a playoffs with Mitch in a defensive 3rd line role since that is how he tends to perform.

Find a centre good enough to play offensively, but also be used in a DFC role.

RoR was the guy, but he's a **** so our next option is...

Sean Couturier

Have Philly hold 2.75, even if we have to pay up for it and roll something like this:

1st: Matthews, Domi
2nd: Jt, Nylander
3rd: Holmberg, Coots, Marner
4th: Dewar, Kampf

Mo-
Benny-McCabe
Raifai-Timmins

Woll

Fill in the blanks with kids/signed players</div></div>

Do you think Coots, Couturier, is back to form now and worth his contract?
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue. at 7:17 p.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMon. at 12:12 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I would like to see the Leafs try to get Lindholm and Zadorov the FA tbh... Especially if the Leafs deal Marner

Both have been super impactful in the playoffs (Z: 9 GP 4G 3A 7P and Lindholm: 9 GP 5G 2A 7P)

I can see Zadorov getting 3-3.5 and Lindholm getting 5.5-6.5 on a 1 year prove it deal...

Assuming Marner gets traded... Wouldn't mind:

Bert (4.5) - Matthews - Domi (3)
McMann - JT - Willy
Knies - Lindholm (6.5) - Jarnkrok
Dewar (1) - Kampf - Holmberg

Rielly - Pesce (5.5)
Z (3.5) - McCabe
Benoit - Lilly (2.25)
Webber

Woll
Stolarz (2.2)
Hildeby

Cap space: 1.24 mill which covers if I'm undercutting, trying to overestimate my numbers but you never know</div></div>

But what is Marner getting traded for and to whom?
Have to think we are taking some salary back.<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I keep thinking Utah makes a ton of sense...

It's likely going to be a team with cap space, or a 3 way deal where the 3rd team takes some salary back tbh</div></div>

You still did not mention the return back
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMon. at 11:40 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I would like to see the Leafs try to get Lindholm and Zadorov the FA tbh... Especially if the Leafs deal Marner

Both have been super impactful in the playoffs (Z: 9 GP 4G 3A 7P and Lindholm: 9 GP 5G 2A 7P)

I can see Zadorov getting 3-3.5 and Lindholm getting 5.5-6.5 on a 1 year prove it deal...

Assuming Marner gets traded... Wouldn't mind:

Bert (4.5) - Matthews - Domi (3)
McMann - JT - Willy
Knies - Lindholm (6.5) - Jarnkrok
Dewar (1) - Kampf - Holmberg

Rielly - Pesce (5.5)
Z (3.5) - McCabe
Benoit - Lilly (2.25)
Webber

Woll
Stolarz (2.2)
Hildeby

Cap space: 1.24 mill which covers if I'm undercutting, trying to overestimate my numbers but you never know</div></div>

But what is Marner getting traded for and to whom?
Have to think we are taking some salary back.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 12 at 7:09 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Saros has done fine in the league despite his size. For a goalie that does not worry me its Dman to where its a concern

I do not care for cost at this point as TOR needs to get their goaltending straightened out

We have Woll whose injury prone and were expecting 40 games out of him next year, 0 idea what we have in Hildeby, and the UFA market sucks. Sure we can trade for Ullmark or sign Talbot but Brad said it best in that presser "we dont want to have the second best goalie in a series" Ullmark would be that vs. Swayman, Vasi, and Bobrosky.

Go invest in a legit starter.</div></div>

Do you agre we need a D with shot?
At least a threat, whose in your list for this?
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 12 at 6:56 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Sure Ullmark is better but why not just trade for an actual difference maker goalie like Saros or Sorokin via Marner?

As Tree put it why dont we have the better goalie in net vs. our opponent

Doans interesting but we have a very small sample size for him. What if next year he struggles.

TOR should be eyeing a trade similar to Tkachuck with emphasis on a starting goalie and top 4 RD thats what I would target</div></div>

Saros is fine but he will be costly in trade with little else included, plus his lack of size doesn't worry you?

Sorokin is a fantasy, Islanders trading him... I'll believe it when it happens regardless of the playoff events


I'm not stuck on Ullmark by any means, nor am I on Montour.
Roy I want, any thoughts on another D man with a shot? Yes we need this on the team cause Rielly don't have one.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 12 at 5:52 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>7 for Montour would be BRUTAL, imo. The guy has one crazy outlier season and honestly isn't much of a puck mover/creator despite his reputation. He's a volume chance guy, lots of low percentage stuff from him from what I've seen.

Would also be taking a hard pass on the Marner deal. No chance I trade him for a package centered around pretty much any goalie, let alone a 31y/o who's pretty much been a solid tandem guy for the vast majority of his career.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>So I have wanted Roy and stuff but those two contracts would hurt IMO

Then for Marner for Ullmark pass. That would not be a good trade for us as I dont see Ullmark being the answer. He's a nice goalie but I dont see him as the better of a matchup against Swayman, Vasilesky, Bobrosky, etc.


Dman I see Brad targeting this summer

Dillon
Demelo
Walker

But would also not be surprised to see Lybushkin or Edmundson return

If Marner's traded look at a Eichel deal or a Tkachuck deal. If were targeting a goalie go for Saros or Sorokin</div></div>

Do you not see any value in the cap space back along with Doan plus picks?

Ullmark at 2.5 million on 1 year is better than the free agent options