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Forum: Armchair-GM36 minutes ago
Thread: 0 to contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>scko</b></div><div>Trading Gallager at $4M makes him a solid veteran 3rd line presence for any contender. So that is not an issue getting value at all. Also, he is future LTIR candidate so very appealing deal for any good team.

Anderson is still unique combo of size, speed and toughness. Every playoffs is a reminder of why these players are so important. He has not 1st value anymore but he is still a positive asset.</div></div>

Maybe in Montreal fantasyland those things are true, but in the reality in the NHL they are not.

Gallagher is pretty bad now and still has 3 years on what is, even with retention, an awful contract. He is a definite negative value asset.

Anderson is a unique combo of a player that doesn't use his size and average 4th line play, while be paid as a top six player for another 3 years. He's basically dead negative value cap. Even worse than Gallagher. Anderson's contract is on par with Jack Campbell's. No one is touching it. He is nowhere near even being a zero value asset, so he's a light year or more from being a positive value asset.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago
Thread: Rumor Mill trades for off season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>If they don’t want a winger in return that’s fair. But I’d argue it’s more than TDL value

Guentzel didn’t get a guaranteed 1st. Obviously Pittsburgh got quantity but you could definitely argue the 2025 1st and Hoglander are both better than any piece Pittsburgh acquired for a better player

Toffoli returned a 2nd and 3rd and he had pretty similar production to Ehlers over the previous 2 seasons (Toffoli had 60 goals, 117 points in 143 GP prior to trade. 0.42 GPG, 0.82 PPG. Ehlers has 37 goals, 99 points in 127 GP the last 2 seasons. 0.29 GPG, 0.78 PPG)</div></div>

Yeah, you could make that argument, but it also depends on the players available at the TDL.

Although that is likely moot, as the Jets would either keep him as an own rental if he won't extend by the TDL or trade him somewhere he wants to extend for a player(s) that fill a need and has term or team control this summer if he wants to move on.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago
Thread: big game HUNTer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>my friend that is literally what i am doing in this agm.

also, if you want a real example, in january 2023 the canucks traded bo horvat for beauvillier, aatu raty, and a 1st. they then traded that 1st round pick in march 2023 for hronek. vancouver effectively swaped a centre into a defenseman, a winger, and a prospect.

or, how about in november 2023, when vancouver traded beauvillier away for a 5th round draft pick, and then traded that 5th rounder plus a 2026 3rd for zadorov? effectively swapping a winger for a defensmen.

net value is horvat plus a 2nd and a 3rd netted vancouver hronek, raty, zadorov and a 4th, spanning 4 trades in 11 months</div></div>

That's cool. Just because Vancouver made a bad trade and were forced to move a player to try and recover value, doesn't mean the Jets have to do it.

Everything you hear about the remote possibility the Jets trade Ehlers all say it will need to be a hockey trade not a futures one, so I don't see it working.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago
Thread: big game HUNTer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jgimp69</b></div><div>Ilya is overpaid, yes. But he is still a good middle 6 guy with good defensive metrics. Something this team badly needs. Lekkeramaki has exploded since his draft. Getting a guy like him with team control is essential for a team like Winnipeg. The 1st we can use as fodder in a trade.
I would still prefer an Ehlers/Pulock swap but barring that, it’s still a great offer</div></div>

I prefer the Ehlers/Pulock trade as well, but this one I just can't see the Jets seeing the same value.

The 1st is not as valuable to Winnipeg since it is in 25 and is for taking Mikhayev so it's basically Ehlers for Lekkermaki straight up. Basically TDL rental value, so I don't see the Jets taking such a huge gamble with their best trade chip.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 hours ago