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get more hard hats

Created by: Mortarhead
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 28, 2024
Published: Apr. 28, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR Enabled: Yes
Season Days: 192
Days Remaining: 192
Season Remaining: 100%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $69,169,667
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I know every leaf fan wants to trade one of the core guys but they all have NTC. so taking that into account what are the problems with the following scenarios?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$1,000,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,500,000
2$2,250,000
2$2,250,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the OTT
2025
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
2026
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,700,000$87,313,000$0$0$387,000
Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$13,250,000$13,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
LW, C
RFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$843,333$843,333
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
UFA - 3
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Apr. 28 at 2:43 p.m.
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Trade offer for Larsson doesn't really meet their needs so Seattle passes.
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Apr. 28 at 2:46 p.m.
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It's not really about "hard hats", more so just passionate players. Our guys lack passion. When the camera pans to Montgomery talking to his players, they are engaged and eager to listen. Then, we pan to Keefe, and it's just dead air. Nobody cares. My dad and I are a pretty extreme Toronto household, and I literally told him 3 years ago that we'll never win a cup with this core. I still believe it.

Good players bleed for their teams. EK played through the entire playoffs with a broken foot, Bergeron played with a punctured lung, Bishop played with a torn groin, Thornton played with a torn ACL... hell.. Tkachuk was literally bed ridden after last years playoff run.

I'm not saying our guys have to play through bad injuries... but leaving the game due to an illness? Really? Jesus christ, man. Pop an advil cold & flu and get back on the ice.
And Marner whining and throwing his gloves. Hey man, you're invisible 80% of every game. That's on YOU.

Watching JT physically hurts cause the dude can't skate anymore, he's becoming more a liability each passing game.

Nylander is the only one who can drive the play in the playoffs and everyone wanted him gone last year. good god.

It's so pathetic. This core blows.
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Apr. 28 at 3:09 p.m.
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Too much for Savard.

Not enough for Larsson.
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Apr. 28 at 5:29 p.m.
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Quoting: KrakBirds23
Trade offer for Larsson doesn't really meet their needs so Seattle passes.


what are their needs? arent they building through young players? honest question
Apr. 28 at 5:35 p.m.
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Quoting: RecycleShark
Too much for Savard.

Not enough for Larsson.


a 1st was the asking price for savard this past deadline..what would our backend look like with him back there now if wed paid that price..i dont think the leafs are the best at picking and developing (I know Easton had a good junior year..I think until he makes the pros and actually contributes the jury is still out)..Savard is ampngst league leaders in blocks for a D and he fits our needs, can make the first pass, has a decent shot fron the point..everyone wants to find a gem at the flee market instead of goiong on amazon and findoing exactly what they need just because you pay full price..idk, maybe im wrong.
And what do you think the asking price for Larson would be?
Apr. 29 at 12:49 a.m.
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what are their needs? arent they building through young players? honest question


Good question. RF traditionally builds teams through drafts. During his time in Carolina and now Seattle most of his deals are for draft picks and not prospects. The course for the team right now is get through the contracts from the expansion draft and find the star players organically rather than trading for them. Essential players (Eberle, McCann, Dunn) and RFA's without arbitration tend to be the focus at the moment. So the needs are draft picks and top RHD as they don't have a replacement on the team or on the farm. Most of the offers here have been for 2nd or 3rd pairing D's.

My guess is this off-season either Tanev or Gourde will be moved - Probably Tanev. And they will still look for a 3rd/4th line center (Bring back Wenneberg on a better team deal?) But I don't see them moving on from Larsson until they are eliminated from the playoffs, and Larsson can't be re-signed, at the trade dead line. Cost at that time will be a severe over pay from a team looking for a top end RHD.

Most of the offers from TML fans comes down to the undervalue of Larsson and over value of what they think could get it done. Asking Seattle to trade Larsson would be like Seattle asking for Riley in return for some of the guys on the Firebirds. Neither are close to what the teams need. Does Seattle need offense? Yes it does, but not at the cost of what the team is built around in defense. For that alone I don't think Toronto has available what Seattle would be looking for if they chose to move Larsson.
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Apr. 29 at 3:01 p.m.
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Good question. RF traditionally builds teams through drafts. During his time in Carolina and now Seattle most of his deals are for draft picks and not prospects. The course for the team right now is get through the contracts from the expansion draft and find the star players organically rather than trading for them. Essential players (Eberle, McCann, Dunn) and RFA's without arbitration tend to be the focus at the moment. So the needs are draft picks and top RHD as they don't have a replacement on the team or on the farm. Most of the offers here have been for 2nd or 3rd pairing D's.

My guess is this off-season either Tanev or Gourde will be moved - Probably Tanev. And they will still look for a 3rd/4th line center (Bring back Wenneberg on a better team deal?) But I don't see them moving on from Larsson until they are eliminated from the playoffs, and Larsson can't be re-signed, at the trade dead line. Cost at that time will be a severe over pay from a team looking for a top end RHD.

Most of the offers from TML fans comes down to the undervalue of Larsson and over value of what they think could get it done. Asking Seattle to trade Larsson would be like Seattle asking for Riley in return for some of the guys on the Firebirds. Neither are close to what the teams need. Does Seattle need offense? Yes it does, but not at the cost of what the team is built around in defense. For that alone I don't think Toronto has available what Seattle would be looking for if they chose to move Larsson.


not that it matters but I would move Rielly.
Thanks for the thoughful response I love to learn about other markets
Apr. 29 at 3:10 p.m.
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not that it matters but I would move Rielly.
Thanks for the thoughful response I love to learn about other markets


Of course. As do I. The difficult part with trading is getting the stuff lined up right. But I think for all teams in all sports getting the value right is the most difficult part. Both teams either have to feel like they won, or that they both lost, for it to be a fair trade.

And now with the coaching change in Seattle it will be interesting to see if RF changes his thought processes and opinions on trades.
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Apr. 29 at 3:37 p.m.
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Of course. As do I. The difficult part with trading is getting the stuff lined up right. But I think for all teams in all sports getting the value right is the most difficult part. Both teams either have to feel like they won, or that they both lost, for it to be a fair trade.

And now with the coaching change in Seattle it will be interesting to see if RF changes his thought processes and opinions on trades.


whats the deal with Wright?
Apr. 29 at 4:40 p.m.
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whats the deal with Wright?


He's been blocked the last two years from being a top 6 forward. His last call up after they traded Wennberg he got to play with some talent (Eberle and Schwartz) and put up 5 points in 5 games. He looked a lot more confident than in his time with the team last year (22/23) and his call up earlier this season. The 2C role is his to lose in the pre-season.
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Apr. 29 at 5:36 p.m.
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He's been blocked the last two years from being a top 6 forward. His last call up after they traded Wennberg he got to play with some talent (Eberle and Schwartz) and put up 5 points in 5 games. He looked a lot more confident than in his time with the team last year (22/23) and his call up earlier this season. The 2C role is his to lose in the pre-season.


nice to hear..the league needs more top end talent, and less flops
looking forward to seeing him put up points in his bright career.
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