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Forum: Armchair-GM15 hours ago
Thread: Thoughts
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 30 at 12:16 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>Well it would be assumed that anyone that trades for Mitch Marner, Would come with an extension. No GM is dealing for him with a one year rental in mind. it's probably an 8 x $12,000,000 or 8 x $12,500,000 extension in place.</div></div>

And honestly, I don't think that's the best option for either the Penguins or for Marner. He's a superstar who I'm willing to bet wants to compete for the Stanley Cup. When is the next time the Pens are going to be giving players that opportunity? With a defense that looks like that, it isn't this season. And with a prospect pool like that, it isn't in the next fews years after that. Marner has a NMC, so he decides if and where he's traded. Why would he choose us over a team that can give him a greater opportunity like LA or Nashville?
As for the Penguins, if we do end up with Marner long-term, the team around him is a couple years from being atrocious. We'd have a bunch of aging legends that can't do it anymore and no supporting cast or youth to speak of surrounding one of the league's best wingers in his prime. So we wouldn't be making the playoffs, but Marner would be good enough to impede the rebuild. It's not the most likely outcome, but I won't rule out the possibility of him keeping us from drafting Hagens or McKenna if things fall apart quickly.
As far as I'm concerned, Marner doesn't fit the Pens' timeline and isn't transcendant enough to change that timeline.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29 at 11:03 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>Pittsburgh doesn't have the assets for Mitch Marner, That offer would be blown away by a country mile. You actually have to add worthwhile pieces and this isn't it.</div></div>

I'd honestly be surprised if that's not good enough. I think it's too high for someone with one year left on his contract, actually.

Given that the roster in this ACGM made no significant improvements to the bottom 6 and actively made the defense worse, that 1st rounder is going to be a lottery pick, and no trade protection was specified. An early 1st and a middling 2nd aren't bad magic beans for a team with the Leaf's prospect pool.
Nor is Brayden Yager, who's been one of the key pieces of Moose Jaw's run to the Memorial Cup. He's projected to be a top 6 NHL forward and Dubas thinks he's got a shot an the NHL as soon as this fall.
And then there's Marcus Pettersson, who I think would instantly be a top 2 defenseman in Toronto, and probably their best one defensively. I actively consider him untradable unless the Pens tear it down, and they wouldn't do that if they were gunning for Marner.

Not a lot of trades recently have had that much value on one side. We certainly didn't give up that much for Karlsson, and I'd argue the Meier and Lindholm trades didn't even have that kind of value, as the former didn't have a significant roster player going to SJS and neither having a 1st rounder earlier than 26OA. The closest comparison I can think of is Eichel, who was younger and not a rental at the time of the trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 26 at 6:59 p.m.
Thread: LFG already