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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 3:04 p.m.
Thread: Forfunsies
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>It's not necessarily expecting more, it's expecting pieces that are useful to Winnipeg. First, when you're offering 5 pieces for one, you know the 5 pieces individually are of little value and quality.

More importantly though, but a single piece fills a need for the Jets. Winnipeg is trying to win now, so trading a top 6 winger for futures doesn't help that cause. Outside of that, none of the players are a top 4 RHD or 2C with term or team control.</div></div>

Yeah I completely agree. Was more so asking on value than the return as I don't believe the wings should do this either and it's not how an Ehlers trade should look.

My hope is they get a top 4 rhd for him, but unsure if the premium that the position demands will be in play for Ehlers. Obviously he's a talent, but for years Wpg fans that know his game knows he's not the type of guy to help you win when it matters. Hard to see that being lost on gms but I suppose for a Hronek or Pulock type, it should be fairly even value. Would be nice if Jets can also target a RHD in free agency
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 5:00 p.m.
Thread: Would Detroit fans consider this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aecliptic</b></div><div>Let me ask you something. If Trouba was a free agent this year, what do you think he could get on the open market? Is it more/less/or on par with 6.5m?</div></div>

Ok still not sure where it's going now as you moved from Trouba to Zib to Trouba.

I think fans have drastically varying takes on Troubas worth. Lots of fans hate him, think he's bad, whatever. I'm not in that camp. Have held ground for a while that he's the rangers captain for a reason and is quite valuable. I think I'm near the higher end of what fans think of him. I also think gms are going to value him at least as much or more than fans do on average.

All that said, equal to or less than 6.5. at age 30, I bet someone would give him a 4X6 or 5X5.5. maybe even slightly more.

So do I think Trouba is worthless in a trade? No. Maybe at 8 mil though you can't find a trade partner, everything considered. At 6 mil, maybe you can but they're not willing to 'help out' the rangers / are going to have to make other moves to make it work. That's why if Detroit were to take on both Zibanejad and Trouba, I said I'd love to have them. But we'd have to make so many accompanying moves that I wouldn't want to pay a bunch to get them. Considering the picks we'd need to dump other guys.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 30 at 11:54 p.m.