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NHL
Mar. 26 at 4:10 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Every team wants to win. Every team is backed by huge investors and owners with deep pockets. If you can't survive in a soft-cap league, then maybe you shouldn't have a team. There are no shortage of backers with deep pockets to take their place</div></div>
That's easy to say but teams need to be stable in order to maintain attendance and profitability.
For most teams to survive, they have to be competitive to draw in casual fans and entrenched to maintain hardcore fans.
If teams are moving around in lean years because of poor attendance, they are losing fans from both groups and people are less likely to invest in their merchandise as well.
Demand goes down forcing them to reduce prices across the board for tickets, merchandise, and advertising.
There are way too many factors to simply implement a soft cap and let the chips fall where they may.
It's in everyone's best interest to maintain existing teams, keep everyone competitive, and level the playing field.
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NHL
Mar. 25 at 3:14 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
On the LTIR issue:
I'd be less doubtful over how it is being used and the coincidence of those players being available at exactly the right time, if there were also instances of players coming back at the wrong time and throwing a wrench into the whole thing to force their team over the cap.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 3:53 p.m.
Thread:
Getting More Young Talent
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Which 3 players are most optimal for the Habs to target at this moment in time? Who are RHD to pair with Guile then?</div></div>
Right now we need to wait for the development of Reinbacher, Mailloux, and Barron. If the team is ready before they are, it's UFA. (Montour and Pesce this year for example, but we aren't ready for the UFA market yet.)
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NHL
Mar. 20 at 11:35 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyScotty</b></div><div>I am 100% behind this idea too for the draft pick.
The negatives I heard in the NHL media was that it would diminish the trade deadline; but I think the opposite is true. The teams at the bottom would become very active buyers too in order to improve their team and try and win games.
What this would do I think is reduce the chances of good players taking "bargain deals" to play for a bottom tier team hoping to get dealt at the deadline. Vets might sit out the summer free agency and then pick and choose which team to sign with after a few months of the regular season to ensure they picked a contender. This would only be a handful of players every year (ala Zach Parise) so don't think it's a big concern.
But teams like Chicago, San Jose, etc could then go after high salary guys that are "cap dumps" from contenders more often to increase their chances of winning games. It would almost be like players getting "loaned" to them. For example, Washington could have loaned Kuznetsov to San Jose at full cap hit instead of retaining and then used that cap space bring in someone like Tomas Hertl to help their own playoff chances.
Fans of tanking teamswould have renewed enthusiasm for the back half of the season and I think we would see less "strip it to the studs" rebuilds and more remodels/retool types of roster construction by GMs.</div></div>
I'm in favor of anti-tanking measures but having the bottom teams fight for points further disadvantages the worst teams.
My idea is weighting lottery odds by quarter. The final quarter would have the least impact on draft position.
Prevents bubble teams or teams that are heavy sellers, from bombing down to the bottom of the pack after the trade deadline.
Teams that were bad since the first game of the season would have higher odds earned through the earlier part of the season.
Another idea is to link lottery odds with cap usage. If you didn't spend to the cap because you never intended to compete this season, your lottery odds would be lowered.
That may result in some extravagant payments on 1 year terms to avoid those lottery penalties, but it also limits how much a team is willing to sell off at the deadline without taking cap back.
Calgary was a cap team and tried to make the playoffs all season. They moved out a few players and significant salary. They already gained draft capital and prospects from those moves.
They don't need the added benefit of better lottery odds if they bottom out after the fact.
Some minor adjustments to lottery odds can be used as anti-tanking measures without completely basing draft position on post-deadline performance.
The idea has never been to reward incompetence, but to buoy teams who need the talent most.
The most evident methods of tanking are not spending competitively and unloading players so you are less able to ice a competitive team.
Those are the things that should negatively impact your lottery odds.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 20 at 7:19 a.m.
Thread:
Getting More Young Talent
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>What would it take to get Rasmus Ristolainen? (I personally think Rasmus on the Right and Kaiden Guile on the left. Would be a very solid pairing. I think Michael Matheson is expendable due to irresponsible defensive plays)
Do Flyers fans think Josh Anderson can revive his career in Philadelphia under Torts, where Anderson had his most success to begin with.</div></div>
If you're proposing we move Matheson and Guhle is on the top pairing, then a partner for Guhle needs to be capable of 20+ minutes a game. That's not Ristolainen.
I don't disagree with the concept, only the target.
Anderson needs to play North-South and will probably be better in a trap system. Even if we find a fit for him, don't expect much of a return.
Nobody believes he can turn his performance around. It's up to him to make whatever adjustments he can before next season and prove he can still be effective and produce.
There's hope, as his shot volume is a little low and his percentage dropped significantly this season.
He needs to prove himself and hit a new level to at least be useful to us for the remainder of his contract.
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Montreal Canadiens
Mar. 19 at 11:58 p.m.
Thread:
Caufield is a better player this year than last year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zk97</b></div><div>Once Caufield finds his shot again it's over for the league. 40 goals 50 assists good defensive play top 10 LW in the league</div></div>
His g/60 is down 1.0 but his primary a/60 is up 0.7.
His shooting percentage is down by at least 4 points as well (about 10 more goals if he was shooting 11.7%).
Part of that is being recognized as a threat and having space taken away. Part of that is his ability to hit the top corner from "his spot" and that being scouted by goaltenders.
Slafkovsky becoming more of a shooting threat should help with space. More player movement on the PP to go with the puck movement is needed.
The rest will depend on him continuing to identify good times to shoot or move, and mixing up his shot selection to threaten with rebounds and different angles of attack.
Not concerned with his individual numbers beyond that. Excited because he's becoming a more diverse player.
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NHL
Mar. 19 at 11:42 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Instead of a draft lottery they have an elaborate system where teams begin collecting points after they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. The team that collects the most points is awarded with the first overall pick, the team with the second most gets the second pick, and so on. I think its a much better idea than a boring lottery, and keeps things interesting in the regular season.
The rules the PWHL implemented are so exciting, such a fun league</div></div>
Exciting and entertaining but not necessarily conducive to the competitive aspect of the sport.
The NHL can improve, but the PWHL is going a little too far. I understand they want to be more entertaining and differentiate themselves from the men's leagues.
I don't think they are good ideas for the NHL.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 11:23 p.m.
Thread:
Geoff Molson gives Crosby an ownership stake in the Habs 2025
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>Probably not. But maybe 😁</div></div>
Don't think it's possible anyway.
Cap restricts compensation. You can't offer financial incentives in place of salary. It's circumvention.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 18 at 8:34 p.m.
Thread:
desperate measures
Montreal is going to aim for playoffs next season.
Perhaps a lofty goal, but they could get closer in the off-season.
Savard won't be moved until they know where they stand, which hopefully won't be before next year's deadline.
His value won't be clear until closer to that point in time and neither will his availability.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17 at 1:33 p.m.
Thread:
Fixsburgh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div><a href="https://youtu.be/NHE0VW8kQqo?si=RnO-2o8PQLjJJNJU" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Sprong</a></div></div>
Thanks, that was interesting.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ItzMeTaboo</b></div><div>The only thing that would worry me here is unless Sullivan is fired this Summer then there is no point in bringing Sprong in. He didn't work in Sully's system before.</div></div>
Interesting video posted by aedoran. Not sure if there is a way to better incorporate him to get him into a top 6 role.
In conclusion, it may be too much of a risk, but there is potential to get offensive ability at a cheaper price by accepting that risk. Might be worth exploring alternatives instead but similar UFAs in their prime aren't in abundance.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 17 at 12:43 p.m.
Thread:
Fixsburgh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>Habs easily pass on that trade its horrible</div></div>
Those are just examples. Trade Rakell and Smith for picks/prospects or similar players.
If you get picks/prospects, you might be able to get those specific players using those assets.
Point is to send out those 2 players to make some other changes and free up some cap space.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 17 at 2:11 a.m.
Thread:
zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Think you've got a typo my friend, Beck was the piece coming with MTLs 1st.</div></div>
Think he meant replace Reinbacher with the 1st.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 16 at 10:32 a.m.
Thread:
(CAR/OTT) - Rees for 2024 6th (OTT)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Svechy37</b></div><div>Rees was a pretty fun player to watch two years ago...don't really know what happened. I know the whole AHL situation isn't ideal, and going to a new AHL team with Springfield was a big adjustment, but he was just plain awful with them. Played 2nd line sometimes, mostly on the 4th line when he wasn't scratched, in which he was a lot. I really like Rees physical play, and he was a beast in 22-23 after winning the calder cup, but I just wish he reaches the NHL one day. I don't think we would've ever gave him a good chance in the NHL, but I really wish he improves with Belleville/Ottawa, and getting a 6th rounder for what he is now is decent.</div></div>
As far as I know he's missed a lot of time between COVID, injuries, and suspensions. He seems to have gotten away from offense and leaned more into physical play, lost his identity, and squandered his opportunities.
All those factors have resulted in poor development and lost confidence in his ability to contribute positively at the NHL level.
Better chance as a reclamation project than a typical 6th round pick.
Forum:
Montreal Canadiens
Mar. 16 at 8:36 a.m.
Thread:
Can Dobes be an NHL goalie
I was often the one pointing out that he has the potential to be our next starter.
With Montembeault for 3 years and Fowler potentially ready soon after, I'm not sure how much opportunity Dobes will get, so he'll have to show well when he does get a chance.
If Montembeault and Primeau are consistent and healthy until Fowler is ready to play in the NHL, that chance may not come however.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 14 at 6:20 p.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>It matters for some players and for others it doesn't. Not everyone is the same. Dahlin played on the right side in Sweden, which led to him being the consensus #1 pick in the draft. He played on the right side all last season and was a Norris candidate all year, until he got injured late in the season. Dahlin himself said he prefers playing on the right side. He can see the ice better there.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>And that's why I said you're missing the point.
This whole thread is about the Buffalo Sabres and their apparent overwhelming amount of LHDs. Only one is playing on his off-hand: Dahlin.
Byram (LHD)- Dahlin (LHD)
Power (LHD)- Jokiharju (RHD)
Bryson (LHD)- Clifton (RHD)</div></div>
You said it matters for some players and for others it doesn't.
That's not true, it matters for everyone. It fundamentally changes the way you have to play. It affects strategy and teammates as well.
You can work around it and some players handle it better than others, I'm only saying it does make a difference, even with Dahlin.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 14 at 3:17 p.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>And you also seem to be completely missing the point.
Dahlin was literally preferred over ever other player in his draft class. He was the consensus #1 overall pick...He got there by playing on the right side.
Last year, he finished 8th in the league in Norris votes. There were 4 RHD who finished ahead of him in voting. So, sure maybe you prefer 4 RHDs over Dahlin...Either way, the list of players you would prefer over Dahlin is really, really short.
And, once again, Dahlin himself has said he prefers playing on the right. I love people on some hockey board telling literally one of the best defenseman in the game where he should be playing.</div></div>
I wasn't speaking about Dahlin specifically, I was responding to why handedness actually does matter in many aspects.
Dahlin is good enough to play on his off side, but there are trade-offs to doing so.
Generally speaking, it's a benefit offensively to have your blade opened towards the middle of the ice, but potentially detrimental in the majority of other situations.
You're able to direct more pucks on net and make more cross ice passes, but it does hamper your ability to control the puck along the boards.
You don't have the same control handling pucks on the backhand because of the curve of the blade and you have to cross arms or turn your back in order to play those pucks.
The player's skill or comfort level don't change the physics. They <strong>will</strong> be forced into disadvantageous situations that would not be an issue for a player of proper handedness.
Being able to manage those situations doesn't negate the fact that a defender on his "correct" side would not be entering those situations at a disadvantage.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 14 at 4:58 a.m.
Thread:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>Clearly we're still working with a small sample size, but after 46 5v5 mins together:
Byram-Dahlin 5GF 1 GA
I'd say Dahlin is doing just fine playing on the right...</div></div>
There's nothing stopping a defender from being effective on his off side, but it does have key effects on how that defenseman can play.
The movement of the puck around the boards on the forehand, is significantly stronger, faster, and more accurate than on the backhand.
When defending, you have better reach to force the puck to the outside instead of extending across your body.
When making a pass up ice it gives you more options as you are open toward the middle of the ice as well as having the boards.
Those are just a few examples of why defenders of certain handedness are preferred.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 13 at 1:50 a.m.
Thread:
Developing depth and a lottery win
Montreal would have to be adding about $15M before they even get close to needing to move cap. I don't see it happening this off-season.
If we did, it would be about freeing roster space, not cap, in which case we can simply waive.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 12 at 5:04 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>I think it <em>has</em> to be 5 games or less if its a phone hearing doesn't it? At least if the in-person wasn't offered.</div></div>
Ended up with 4 games, and yes, if it's not an in person hearing, the max is 5 games.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 11 at 9:04 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
That should be an in-person hearing for Rempe.
Should be at least two games and I'm not saying it needs to be more, but it's time to send a message and have a discussion with him, show him the process, and give him a wake-up call.
That's his 3rd headshot in about 2 weeks with no supplementary discipline thus far.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 11 at 2:06 p.m.
Thread:
(MTL/NJD) - Légaré for Durandeau
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>It should be called the playoff eligibility deadline then.</div></div>
I don't necessarily disagree, but you're going to be very disappointed with free agents, turns out they actually cost money.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 11 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
(MTL/NJD) - Légaré for Durandeau
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>No sense in having a "trade deadline" if teams can trade after the deadline :shakehead</div></div>
There is no trade deadline. There's a deadline to submit reserve lists for playoff eligibility.
That's a mouthful though, so we call it a trade deadline.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 11 at 1:49 p.m.
Thread:
The NHL needs to change these things
<strong>LTIR</strong>
Instead of having a LTIR "pool", each instance of a player being on LTIR is its own "slot".
Mark Stone on LTIR can be replaced with <strong>one</strong> player with a cap hit up to $9.5M. Not four players with a combined cap hit of less than $9.5M.
If you replace him with a $1M player, you forego the other $8.5M.
It was never the intention for a team to "gain" cap space with an injury. The system is intended to allow teams to "replace" the missing player.
Obviously you can't account for the difference in the quality of the player lost and his replacement, but that's where your depth is tested and other players get their opportunity to step up and prove themselves.
The cap limit itself should apply to the active roster on any given night (including playoffs).
You could end up in a situation where you acquire Hertl to replace Stone, and then Stone comes back.
In that case you would have to choose who to dress to be compliant if you don't have the cap space available to accommodate both.
<strong>OT Points</strong>
A couple random ideas:
- Award 2 points for regulation win. 1 point for OT/SO win. Encourage teams to do their best to end the game in regulation. No more loser points.
- Extra Time. Periods don't end on a buzzer but on a whistle. Play continues until a natural stoppage. More last second heroics and potential to avoid OT. No more "did the puck cross the line before the buzzer". Teams might get to finish their power play instead of having it interrupted by the intermission, etc.
<strong>Tanking/Draft Order</strong>
Draft odds are "earned" by quarter. The final 22 games carry less weight.
If Chicago is last place in all 4 quarters, they get ~25% odds.
If Chicago and Anaheim alternate last place all season (starting with Chicago), Chicago gets ~20% and Anaheim gets ~18% (because the last quarter gets less weight).
If Columbus is 5th last for the first 3 quarters and Calgary hovered around 10th then sells off all their players at the deadline and drops below 5th, Columbus will still have higher odds than Calgary due to being in a lower standing for longer. (Say Columbus gets 7.5% in 6th, Calgary might only have 5% odds despite being in 5th.)
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 10 at 10:27 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR</b></div><div>He shouldn't have been ejected in the first place. The refs made two terrible calls within 10 seconds of each (attard tripping call & Hathaway 10 Min misconduct for a shove). Torts said the first one was a dive but he didn't argue it too much, the 2nd one upset him so he made sure they knew but he really hadn't done anything out of the normal of coaches after bad calls. Then they wrongfully ejected him, so he told them to eff-off and flipped out.
If refs do their job, instead of abruptly ejecting torts because he called out a call. Torts doesn't flip out.</div></div>
He may well have had a legitimate reason to flip out.
The ref should be held accountable after the fact if it wasn't justified (that's a separate issue the NHL already struggles with).
In the moment however, like it or not, once a call is finalized you have to take it and allow the game to continue.
Forum:
NHL
Mar. 10 at 8:26 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR</b></div><div>nhl is a joke... torts suspended 2 games, 50K?!!?! fine</div></div>
Not sure what you expect. You can't just tell the ref to effoff and refuse to serve a penalty.
You can throw a fit on the way out, damage is done at that point, but you still have to leave.
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