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Marner to Nashville

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2024
Published: May 13, 2024
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Team is cap compliant with a 21 man roster. Send down Jones and Timmins and/or Minten. I was just adding a bit of depth.

Biggest hole I see here is at #3C. I like Holmberg but he is a weak #3C. Outside of that, this team is VERY good.

On defence I focused on getting Rielly a proper partner. I also focused on balancing defensive awareness and puck moving ability. We couldn't generate any offence from our D all year. Gustaffson and Walker help out a bit in that regard. I really like all 4 d pairs here.

Thoughts?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,000,000
2$1,250,000
2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,000,000
4$5,000,000
2$1,500,000
4$4,500,000
7$6,250,000
2$4,000,000
1$1,100,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Saros, Juuse
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NSH)
2.
TOR
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (LAK)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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24$87,700,000$90,608,334$0$0-$2,908,334
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$13,250,000$13,250,000
C
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA
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$950,000$950,000
LW, C
RFA
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
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UFA - 2
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$816,667$816,667
C, LW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
G
UFA
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
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UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
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May 13 at 2:45 p.m.
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Biggest hole is Marner not waiving to Preds. And why would Preds add 6m in cap, in the exchange for two rentals and give up a first too?
May 13 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Biggest hole is Marner not waiving to Preds. And why would Preds add 6m in cap, in the exchange for two rentals and give up a first too?


Biggest hole in any Marner and/or Tavares trades are them not waiving. We don't really know where they will waive to. Nashville is a pretty sweet spot though.

Do you think Saros and Marner are worth the same? Goalies rarely hold as much value as a super star winger. 22nd overall + the cap difference seems reasonable to me. What do you think would be fair around Marner and Saros?
May 13 at 2:50 p.m.
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It's funny you think Nashville adds here.

Toronto fans are going to be extremely disappointed with Marner's return IF he decides "Sure, I'm okay going to play with someone other than the best goal-scorer in the league. I'm totally 100% confident my stats won't drop dramatically with, let me look at the Nashville roster, 33 year old Ryan O'Reilly, in a year I want to be at peak performance for my lifetime contract."

Marner laughs you out of the building before Nashville even has a chance to.
May 13 at 2:52 p.m.
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It's funny you think Nashville adds here.

Toronto fans are going to be extremely disappointed with Marner's return IF he decides "Sure, I'm okay going to play with someone other than the best goal-scorer in the league. I'm totally 100% confident my stats won't drop dramatically with, let me look at the Nashville roster, 33 year old Ryan O'Reilly, in a year I want to be at peak performance for my lifetime contract."

Marner laughs you out of the building before Nashville even has a chance to.


If Marner were to waive to Nashville, do you think 1 for 1 is fair? I personally think the super star winger is worth more than the star goalie but that's just me. What do you see as being fair here?
May 13 at 2:57 p.m.
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Biggest hole in any Marner and/or Tavares trades are them not waiving. We don't really know where they will waive to. Nashville is a pretty sweet spot though.

Do you think Saros and Marner are worth the same? Goalies rarely hold as much value as a super star winger. 22nd overall + the cap difference seems reasonable to me. What do you think would be fair around Marner and Saros?


I don't think Nashville is sweet sport for Marner as you strives to a career year in this contract year. Marner has NO motivation to move unless it with an extension. Any other good team with might be attractive to Marner don't have the cap for him.
You seem to left out one important ingredient in the trade. Saros and 1st to the Leafs PLUS 6 mill in cap. for Marner. That's too. difficult for Nashville to swallow. Their top goalie, a good UFA signing and first for one year of Marner.
May 13 at 3:00 p.m.
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If Marner were to waive to Nashville, do you think 1 for 1 is fair? I personally think the super star winger is worth more than the star goalie but that's just me. What do you see as being fair here?


Good question. I see Saros as being much more impactful in the lineup. I agree with the fact that GENERALLY a proven winger goes for more than a proven goalie, but I think Saros is one of like 3 goalies in the league that probably doesn't apply to (Shesterkin and Helly are the other two, Vasy would have been in that group 3 years ago).

Add onto the facts that 1) Marner controls where he goes/if he goes, and Saros does not and 2) Marner costs 6mil more so it's also doing Toronto a favor in their cap space problem.

I honestly think a 1-for-1 doesn't do it and Nashville is the one saying no. There'd have to be something enticing them.
May 13 at 3:15 p.m.
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I don't think Nashville is sweet sport for Marner as you strives to a career year in this contract year. Marner has NO motivation to move unless it with an extension. Any other good team with might be attractive to Marner don't have the cap for him.
You seem to left out one important ingredient in the trade. Saros and 1st to the Leafs PLUS 6 mill in cap. for Marner. That's too. difficult for Nashville to swallow. Their top goalie, a good UFA signing and first for one year of Marner.


Quoting: PuckLuck_77
Good question. I see Saros as being much more impactful in the lineup. I agree with the fact that GENERALLY a proven winger goes for more than a proven goalie, but I think Saros is one of like 3 goalies in the league that probably doesn't apply to (Shesterkin and Helly are the other two, Vasy would have been in that group 3 years ago).

Add onto the facts that 1) Marner controls where he goes/if he goes, and Saros does not and 2) Marner costs 6mil more so it's also doing Toronto a favor in their cap space problem.

I honestly think a 1-for-1 doesn't do it and Nashville is the one saying no. There'd have to be something enticing them.


Fair enough - We also have to consider Askarov potentially being Nashvilles long term plan in net. So part of moving on from Saros, is to create room for Askarov.

I am curious to see what the Leafs will do.
May 13 at 3:25 p.m.
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Base of Saros and Marner is probably fine, the 1st is not the correct add-on though
May 13 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Base of Saros and Marner is probably fine, the 1st is not the correct add-on though


Why not? What do you think would be the correct add on?
May 13 at 3:30 p.m.
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Why not? What do you think would be the correct add on?


Nashville has too many notable wingers that lose or already don't have waiver exemption next season. Adding another winger in Marner means they will have to expose someone relevant. Also I think Toronto would be more interested in adding a guy like Fabbro to play with Rielly.
May 13 at 3:34 p.m.
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These trades never work for Nashville. We're not moving the goalie we could compete with for a winger you couldn't. I wouldn't mind Marner in Nashville, but for other pieces. He's not an organizational need and the move does not logically make sense. There are lots of picks and prospects in Nashville's system who may be available for the right return. Package some of them together, add in a 50% retained JT, and flip the assets you receive to another team interested in moving you a top goaltender.
May 13 at 3:43 p.m.
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Chicago declines. Not giving up a 2nd for Liljegren.
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