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Created by: Ennis

Team: 2023-24 Nashville Predators

Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2024

Published: May 16, 2024

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“We’ll be in talks,” Trotz said. “I’m sure it’s not going to be definitely a July 1 announcement, probably. I think it’s going to be a process with his people, his representatives. But I do know this: [Saros] wants to be here, and he’s been a big part of it. I’d like him to be here, so we’re going to work hard at getting something done with him.”

Saros agreed with Trotz, saying that he wants to remain with the Predators for the remainder of his career.

“It’s a great city,” he said. “We have unbelievable fans, and I think as an organization we took a good step this year, too. I believe in this organization, so obviously I would be happy to [sign].”

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Buyouts

Matt Duchene: $2,555,556
Kyle Turris: $2,000,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Ryan Johansen: $4,000,000 (50%)
Mattias Ekholm: $250,000 (4%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$82,329,199	$0	$82,500	$1,170,801

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Forsberg, Filip $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 7	O'Reilly, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 C UFA - 4	Beauvillier, Anthony $4,150,000$4,150,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Zucker, Jason $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Sissons, Colton $2,857,143$2,857,143 C, RW UFA - 3	Evangelista, Luke $797,500$797,500 ($82,500$82K) RW RFA - 2
Nyquist, Gustav $3,185,000$3,185,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Glass, Cody $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, RW RFA - 2	McCarron, Michael $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Sherwood, Kiefer $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Novak, Thomas $800,000$800,000 C UFA - 1	Smith, Cole $775,000$775,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Anderson-Dolan, Jaret $775,000$775,000 C, LW, RW RFA - 1
	Jankowski, Mark $775,000$775,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Josi, Roman $9,059,000$9,059,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Barrie, Tyson $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Saros, Juuse $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 2
McDonagh, Ryan $6,750,000$6,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Schenn, Luke $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 3	Lankinen, Kevin $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Lauzon, Jérémy $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Carrier, Alexandre $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1
	Fabbro, Dante $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1

May 16 at 3:28 p.m.

SNipeSHowInc

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As a leafs fan I really hope it doesn’t. I don’t think Saaros is a goalie who can lead a team deep into the playoffs

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May 16 at 3:31 p.m.

Logicalicesports

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My question is what is their plan with Askarov? He seems ready for a bigger role than an AHL goaltender. Do they potentially move him to the NHL roster and trade Lankinen or do they let him have another season as one of the best goaltender's in the AHL

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May 16 at 3:34 p.m.

Ennis

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Quoting: Logicalicesports

Ideally, you keep Lankinen and give Askarov more NHL games. Ease him into it and give him the time he needs to develop. If Saros is signed long term, you can still flip him later down the line. People forget that just because Saros extends doesn't mean we can't move him 2-3 years later (unless he has some sort of clause).

Or, we use Askarov as trade bait

May 16 at 3:34 p.m.

nativewulf

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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc

As a leafs fan I really hope it doesn’t. I don’t think Saaros is a goalie who can lead a team deep into the playoffs

Saros has done his best year in and year out to try and take this team deep in the playoffs, but our scoring woes continually holds us back. Whether you think he can or can't, he'd immediately be the best goalie the leafs have had in the modern NHL.

This year alone he was one of the best goalies in the first round. 3.5 GSAx and 2.02 GAA. He's never been the problem in the playoffs

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May 16 at 3:36 p.m.

SharkTank

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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc

As a leafs fan I really hope it doesn’t. I don’t think Saaros is a goalie who can lead a team deep into the playoffs

I'd take Saros over Woll.

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May 16 at 3:36 p.m.

Herb_Brooks

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you dont draft a goalie in the top 15 for him not to be your goalie

May 16 at 3:37 p.m.

Ennis

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

you dont draft a goalie in the top 15 for him not to be your goalie

That makes him perfect trade bait. Trotz has already shopped him around before.

People also forget we can still trade Saros 2-3 years down the line.

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May 16 at 3:47 p.m.

SNipeSHowInc

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Quoting: nativewulf

Does that not sound exactly like the Leafs problems too though lol? Can’t score and Woll provided excellent goaltending

May 16 at 3:49 p.m.

SNipeSHowInc

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Quoting: SharkTank

I'd take Saros over Woll.

If Woll stays healthy (so big if) I take Woll, he’s cheaper and quite frankly bigger. I don’t love that Saaros is under 6 ft tall, my mind won’t be changed on his size being a factor

May 16 at 3:52 p.m.

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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc

If Woll stays healthy (so big if) I take Woll, he’s cheaper and quite frankly bigger. I don’t love that Saaros is under 6 ft tall, my mind won’t be changed on his size being a factor

That's your funeral. 😬

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May 16 at 3:52 p.m.

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SNipeSHowInc

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Quoting: SharkTank

That's your funeral. 😬

May 16 at 3:57 p.m.

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nativewulf

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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc

Does that not sound exactly like the Leafs problems too though lol? Can’t score and Woll provided excellent goaltending

Nowhere did I say the Leafs should trade for Saros, nor did I say he would solve y'alls playoff problems. I'm simply pointing out he's a good goalie, and capable of leading a team deep in the playoffs because I believe your first comment was misguided.

My sister is a Leafs fan. I tell her all the time Woll is a stud, and if you all could insulate him better he could really develop into something special, or at the very least an above average starter.

May 16 at 3:57 p.m.

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NHLfan10506

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My guess on how Trotz probably wants it to play out

1. Extend Saros in July 2024
2. Askorov earns starters gig in 2024-25
3. Saros traded before July 1, 2025 (before new contract, NTC kick in)

Saros could ask for NTC to be added for 2024-25, the final year of his current deal. The current CBA allows for extended players to add NTC protection before their extension starts (as long as they are eligible, which applies to Saros). If Saros is asking for this…it could be the wrench in the plan above.

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May 16 at 3:59 p.m.

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Quoting: Ennis

See comment above.

Saros doesn’t currently have no trade protection for 2024-25, but it can be added once he extends.

May 16 at 4:07 p.m.

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Ennis

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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc

If Woll stays healthy (so big if) I take Woll, he’s cheaper and quite frankly bigger. I don’t love that Saaros is under 6 ft tall, my mind won’t be changed on his size being a factor

Woll is too inconsistent and literally has 39 career NHL games played lol. Big risk factor.

Size isn't really a factor when you have a career .917

May 16 at 4:09 p.m.

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GMBL

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I hope Saros does re-sign, but until it's a done deal, there's still the chance of a trade (whether that be to the Leafs or elsewhere) if negotiations don't go too well.

May 16 at 4:14 p.m.

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GMBL

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Quoting: Ennis

Woll is too inconsistent and literally has 39 career NHL games played lol. Big risk factor.

Size isn't really a factor when you have a career .917

For the kind of defense Treliving is trying to build it probably will be. With the luck the Leafs have, even if Saros is great in the playoffs, the one goal that will cost them the series would probably be because he's screened by his defenders.

Woll has been consistently good, his numbers just took a dive because he was struggling when he returned from his injury. His biggest obstacle is staying healthy.

May 16 at 4:16 p.m.

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Ennis

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Quoting: GMBL

Seems like that's kind of grasping at straws. Juice is a great goalie, big or small defenders in front of him.

Either way, it's all moot because I'm happy to keep him

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May 16 at 5:17 p.m.

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GMBL

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Quoting: Ennis

Seems like that's kind of grasping at straws. Juice is a great goalie, big or small defenders in front of him.

Either way, it's all moot because I'm happy to keep him

I'm not denying that he's a great goalie, but I don't think the solution for the Leafs getting "goalied" is to get a better goalie when they are typically getting eliminated in close winner take all games. There is merit to adding him though considering that the only teams that make it from the East in recent years are those with top-goalies (Bobrovsky could be seen as the exception or can consider it as him regaining form).

I don't think either team gets much better with the swap without several additional moves.

May 16 at 5:21 p.m.

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scko

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Great! I hope the midget goalie stays put.

May 16 at 9:17 p.m.

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Ennis

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Quoting: GMBL

As someone who lives in Toronto and frequently follows the team + literally goes to playoff games… they need goaltending. Not saying it’s Saros, but they need goaltending.

When your solution to Sammy sucking and Woll being injured is Martin Jones… you’re screwed. They’ve lacked a genuine starter for years.

They’ve scrounged the bargain bin for years in hopes to find someone that can be a genuine starter. Hasn’t worked.

May 16 at 9:18 p.m.

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Ennis

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Quoting: scko

Great! I hope the midget goalie stays put.

I hope so too! His career .917 fairs well here!

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