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Armchair-GM
12 hours ago
Thread:
Another Leafs attempt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>capsleafs447</b></div><div>Lol okay. Sure. You first. Labanc is a glorified third liner, and we certainly aren't trading him for one of our top prospects (who, reminder everyone, is only 21 years old). There are better players available at a far lower cost. No thanks.</div></div>
I'd accept a glorified 2nd liner but 3rd liner isn't very accurate. He actually had absurdly good defensive stats this past season (especially for being one of the worst defensive players I'd ever seen prior to this year). I think two thirds is a bit much so if you take out the 2023 3rd I think that's pretty fair
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Armchair-GM
13 hours ago
Thread:
Another Leafs attempt
Yeah Sharks definitely do that. Young RD and solid forward prospect plus some mid round picks. That's exactly what they'd be looking for
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Armchair-GM
17 hours ago
Thread:
Which of these 7 things is least likely to happen for San Jose
Regarding #6. I'm sure that's what people thought about Reedy for J. Peterson but it looks like our pro scouts nailed that one. Peterson is a fantastic player
I'm not sure why Grier so much hate. He's made some unbelievable moves in a very short time
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Armchair-GM
17 hours ago
Thread:
Which of these 7 things is least likely to happen for San Jose
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRxLundqvist</b></div><div>40 point players don't pull a 1st</div></div>
56 pt pace and the cap hit would be 1.25. That's easily a first + a little something.
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Armchair-GM
17 hours ago
Thread:
Key Additions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Megalodon</b></div><div>Sharks should accept. But it looks like Grier wants to give Makiniemi a shot at the NHL this year so I doubt he is in the market for Murray at all.</div></div>
They could buy him out but that's not really worth the 2 mil next year. He'll probably be on the IR for 50% of the season anyway lol
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 3:06 p.m.
Thread:
Old but Gold
Hard pass. Barabanov is actually good at hockey
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 5:15 p.m.
Thread:
Trotz off the molly but on the perc
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matthias893</b></div><div>Is Carrier a "bad depth player"? It seems like he's regressed stat wise this year, but kind of seems like he's on about the same level as Ferraro, and better offensively.
*to be clear I'm genuinely asking, I don't know much about him.</div></div>
Maybe a bit of an exaggeration to say a "bad" depth player but he's already 26. had a solid season last year but had very bad numbers this past season and hasn't been a consistent NHLer in years prior to last.
Ferraro had a brutal year but on a horrid team. He was very solid the past three years and is only 24. Mario has a skillset that would make him an effective offensive player but he's played three years as a defensive anchor to Burns run-and -gun style, so I think he'll need to re-set his mindset of when he should and shouldn't take offensive risks. I'd definitely feel more comfortable with Ferraro than Carrier to bounce back as well as in the long term
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 3:51 p.m.
Thread:
Trotz off the molly but on the perc
Interesting that preds fans think the value is off on EK65. I get if you think it doesn't make sense for the team, but the Value is objectively skewed massively in the preds favor here.
A late first, a bad depth player who's an RFA, an underperforming cap dump center, a c+ prospect, and a future second? Thats god awful value for EK on a 9.5 mil contract.
Also the Tony D comparison that someone made is just laughable. The only thing they have in common is that they are offense focused. Anyone who actually watches EK knows whos great at defending off the rush, intercepting passes, and blocking shots. His weakness is when he gets stuck defending the cycle and board battles as well as getting out of position. In a more structured system he's very good defensively.
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 2:42 p.m.
Thread:
fixing the sharks
Kings already have one 33 year old RHD making 11 mil. They don't need another. Also their RHD roster depth is similar to the Sharks LHD. There's already a logjam there.
Also these are terrible for the Sharks. That Klingberg contract is brutal. That Keller trade makes no sense, why sell all our players for futures if you just trade those picks away for one guy.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:20 p.m.
Thread:
Another Shot at it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TML4EVA</b></div><div>I actually disagree. Bedard is coming. 1-2 years max before they are in the playoffs. If you can add Marner you ensure that happens and can compete from day 1.</div></div>
Even if Bedard get's 150 points the hawks are a bottom 5 team for 3+ more years
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:15 p.m.
Thread:
Work work work work work Work
These are all brutal for the Sharks except the Seattle one
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:02 p.m.
Thread:
lonny
It would have to be the 2024 1st or I don't think SJ does this.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
23-24 sabes
Not crazy but Olofsson but Sharks could get a 3rd or 2nd for him depending on how good his year is at the deadline, so think Sharks would take this.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 1:55 p.m.
Thread:
The King returns
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Melnyk_0ut</b></div><div>We'd be doing SJ a favour by taking that EK contract</div></div>
Nah we'll keep him if you're not going to send value coming back. We don't have any free agents that are coming up so no need to sell low just to get rid of his contract
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 1:53 p.m.
Thread:
My Take on Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodfella</b></div><div>You really think Barb is worth more than a 2nd? I dunno man. I think a 2nd with retention is right now.
Benning is a 3rd at best imo.
My issue with that trade is we don't want the players coming our way.</div></div>
It's insane how far off you are. Barabonov was on a 58 pt pace this last season on a 2.5 cap hit. Benning had fantastic defensive stats and his best pt productive year on a trash team, on a 1.25 cap hit for three more years. They're the two best contracts on the team, some of the best value contracts in the league.
Easily a 2nd + a decent prospect and could even fetch a 1st + for a team that's cap strapped.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 1:48 p.m.
Thread:
The King returns
Such an easy no from SJ. Do you think Barabonov is just a throw in guy? dude could easily get a first + at the deadline at his cap hit and his production
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 6:35 p.m.
Thread:
Payroll reconstruction
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Not disagreeing with the fact Vlasic's contract is better, but I would argue that Seguin is a much, much better player of the two. How much is their value difference then?
Seguin was pretty good this year, 50 points is no slouch. Is he worth his contract, absolutely not, but let's face it, neither is Vlasic. This applies to now, and it applies to 3-4 years in the future with both players. Only difference is that Vlasic can be bought out, which is the only reason why I suggested the trade in the first place.</div></div>
It honestly doesn't matter who the better player is for SJ. The only thing that matters right now is what's their cap hit, and how many years left. Also Vlasic wasn't terrible this year. He and Benning I believe were around 15th best in xGA in the league. It just makes more sense to ride that.
I like Marchment but unless there's a way to be a contender in the next couple years, his cap hit and term only hurts and his talent is wasted on a bad/mid team. As for Lundqvist, it was very concerning that he was so low on the depth chart of a Dallas d-core that lacked depth in these playoffs. I'd wouldn't mid taking a risk on him, but only if the value is low enough. Zetterlund was fantastic in NJ and to give up on his quarter season in SJ would be a mistake
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 6:15 p.m.
Thread:
Payroll reconstruction
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>That makes no sense from Stars perspective. The only reason why I'd suggest trading Seguin to an inferior player with big ass contract is because that other contract might be possible to buy out, because Seguin's contract is buyout proof. That's the whole point of the scenario. However, after the year Benn had, there's no reason to consider a buyout with him. Also his contract length coincides well with out young players like Johnston and Oettinger re-signing.
We'd lose all the cap benefit, both long and short term in this scenario, and we'd also lose much, much more valuable assets in the process.</div></div>
You can't propose a deal and only consider the fact that it works for your side lol. What you proposed doesn't work for the Sharks, so they no. simple as that lol
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 6:13 p.m.
Thread:
Payroll reconstruction
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>They aren't acquiring older players, in fact they're getting younger here. Seguin is younger than Vlasic. Marchment is younger than Simek. Lundkvist is younger than Zetterlund.
Also I disagree. Seguin is so much better than anyone you're losing here that if anything their chances of making the playoffs in 2-3 years only get higher. Only thing that would change is that Seguin's contract runs one year longer, but that shouldn't be a problem since SJ doesn't have many big contracts that need to be renewed in a short while.
I said in the description that for this post NTCs and NMCs shouldn't be taken account for, because Seguin is unlikely to waive his NMC for Sharks either. As for Vlasic, he has M-NTC with 3 team trade list...I wonder if he agreed to a trade if he was promised that he'll get bought out by the team that acquired him, and then would simply re-sign with the Sharks again with a cheaper contract. Could be a win-win for Vlasic, and the Sharks.</div></div>
Vlasic has a better contract than Seguin. its nearly 3 mil less, a year less, and you can actually buy it out if needed. Seguin wasn't good this year, what makes you think he'll be remotely worth it at 9.8 in 3 years?
Yes the guys you proposed are technically like a year younger than the comparison, but the point of getting rid of older guys isn't to get slightly less old guys. It's to dump them completely. Seguin has 4 years left vs Vlasics 3. Marchment has 3 years left vs Simeks 1. I don't think you're super far off but the term is biggest killer here for the Sharks.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 6:04 p.m.
Thread:
Payroll reconstruction
I'm fine taking on cap dumps in the short term so Seguin doesn't work. And Zetterlund will get back to his game in time, I don't think they'll give up on him yet.
Switch out Seguin for Benn given his contract is pretty much Seguin minus 2 years, and switch Zetterlund for Labanc 50% retained (and maybe add Gadjovic) and I think that would be worth it.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 12:39 p.m.
Thread:
Dubas Leafs
I get the structure of the SJ trade of 11.5 going to PIT & 11.25 going to SJ with 2 years less term. But there has to be WAY more value coming back for them if SJ is only getting 250k in cap relief.
Pickering is a very average prospect and Sharks don't want another LD unless they're a gamechanger
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Armchair-GM
May 31 at 6:15 p.m.
Thread:
3 Draft Day Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>We wouldn't do it, but that's fair</div></div>
Yeah that's my point lol. It would have to take something REALLY good to trade that pick.
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Armchair-GM
May 31 at 2:12 p.m.
Thread:
3 Draft Day Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chapee44</b></div><div>Or they don't.</div></div>
Nah you're not even in the same state, let alone the ballpark of what it would take to move from 13 to 4 in this draft.
Replace UPL with Kulich and you have a deal. Anything else isn't remotely considered
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Armchair-GM
May 31 at 11:42 a.m.
Thread:
Draft and so on
Arizona has no use for Barabanov right now. A cap strapped team would give the most value for him.
Apart from that, Bordeleau, 9th overall, 28th overall, and 36th overall would be literally insane to trade away in this draft. As amazing as Cooley looks like he'll be, you never know how they'll transition to pro, and with the depth in this draft there's a solid chance that multiple of those picks could end up being a top 6/top 4 or even an elite talent. Add to that Barabanov's objective value is a 1st plus (nearly 60 pt pace at 2.5 mil contract) and Bordeleau has potential to be a solid 2nd line center in the NHL, this value is WAY too much to give up
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Armchair-GM
May 31 at 11:31 a.m.
Thread:
Breaking Up With the Coredashians - Offseason 2023-2024
This is so much better for TOR than it is for SJ.
TOR is literally only going back 9 draft spots to dump a big contract AND they get a really steady, physical, and surprisingly skilled depth winger. So maybe add a future 2nd and the Sharks may take this
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