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Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
Thread: NYI STL TOR 3 way trade - read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>linehan10</b></div><div>The Athletic thinks Sandin is nothing special and it’s pretty clear that a) the leafs don’t need Nylander and b) the RHD is the Achilles heal</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>Well if the athletic said it then it must be true.... sandin right now is our best prospect. I’ve only watched about 6 or 7 games with him after he came back from injury but he looks very good for an 18 yr old in the ahl. Rosen has looked a bit better but he is also 24.</div></div>

Wheeler published his Nov Prospect Rankings for the Leafs and Sandin was number 1... Pronman probably doesn't like Sandin because Pronman has a (slightly ridiculous) preference for a few traits: he tends to favor small, swift forwards that can make high-level / flashy plays... basically if the guy doesn't have the potential to be a bona fide superstar, Pronman won't rank him high. Sandin isn't going to be a superstar but he's looking like a really good d-man.

Link here: sorry it's a subscription <a href="https://theathletic.com/651871/2018/11/15/wheeler-the-complete-maple-leafs-prospect-rankings-november-2018-edition/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://theathletic.com/651871/2018/11/15/wheeler-the-complete-maple-leafs-prospect-rankings-november-2018-edition/</a>

Wheeler:
1 Sandin
2 Liljegren
3 Grundstrom
4 Bracco
5 Durzi
Forum: Armchair-GM14 hours ago
Thread: Blues NSH COL Trade
I doubt the Blues would trade Parayko. The recent news is all overblown tbh. Any GM of an underperforming team would be listening on their players... this does not mean that the Blues are calling everyone trying to get rid of Tarasenko and Parayko. It just means that if someone offers what it will take, then Armstrong isn't going to shy away from a trade at this point.

With all that said, there is nothing in that package that makes me excited to make that trade as a Blues fan. We're giving up the best two players and we're really not getting anything back with serious upside. Maybe Lias can become Landeskog 2.0... maybe Pionk is Shattenkirk 2.0. I'd still rather have guaranteed Tarasenko and guaranteed Parayko over that. Skjei is getting ripped on by every Rangers fan lately - he isn't living up to expectations. Vesey is a complementary winger without a lot of upside. 1st round pick a year after we give the Rangers some really valuable assets? Might not be that good.

I think the Blues would have to see guys like Chytil/Kravtsov/Miller and the '19 NYR 1st just to get the conversation started for /one/ of Parayko or Tarasenko. If those pieces are involved, then the rest of the value can come in the form of Skjei/Kreider/Vesey/Pionk, but it's all about the Blues trying to find a guy with serious enough upside to move a top player with term on his contract.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 hours ago
Thread: World Cup 2020 - Predicting Team Slovakia
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>We had great players like Bondra and my beloved Blue Demitra and so on in late 90s and early 00s and also the Stastny brothers.

Yes the corruption has been high in hockey in slovakia for like a decade. To sumarize it basically representatives making shady deals during world championship in 2011, having shady characters and businessmen who know nothing about hockey in functions close to junior hockey and also pro hockey. Making deals for themselves and making profit out of young players and also young talented players were thrown away so that rich kids can play first line minutes and they have zero talent BUT club managers and coaches got money.. some talented guys I know personally as my friends were put on 4th line in their respective junior clubs to make place for spoiled kids. It was like this for a decade and now we have basically a new movement around former players (Satan, Handzus, Visnovsky) who are trying to get it back on and restart it again. I have my own ideas who these gentlemen know (I got to spoke with them when me and my friend got to interview Lubo Visnovsky few months ago) so yeah that was the situation and this meant lack of prospects and stars coming in.. hopefully one day I would be proud of many players in NHL but we are now trying to basically catch train that has twice improved its speed since we got off..

Its pretty sad.</div></div>

Thanks for the response, and sorry to hear that. Demitra was one of my favorites too.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago
Thread: Connor Brown is perfect winger for McDavid - also Timmo Thomaskinen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>I see Brown as a really hard worker who plays responsible minutes and can score if given the chance. I don't think he's an elite player by any stretch, but I have seen several Oiler games and their wingers are not very good, Brown would help them on the PK and also provide some much needed speed to a relatively slow lineup.</div></div>

You're still not telling me why he's more inclined to be an impact player than Rieder, Caggiula, Chiasson. They're all hard workers. They all can kill penalties. And they all make less than Brown.

More importantly, you're not convincing me that the Oil would be better if they traded Larsson for a winger and a downgrade. Would you trade Zaitsev for Andy MacDonald and Michael Raffl? Raffl scored 20 goals before and AMac isn't that big of a downgrade from Zaits.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 hours ago
Thread: Connor Brown is perfect winger for McDavid - also Timmo Thomaskinen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>I don't think every team has a player like Brown. Edmonton has wingers who can produce with McDavid (Anyone can produce with him, he's the best player in the world), and what do they do when they aren't on his wing? Almost across the board, they do nothing. I think Brown playing with RNH would help improve the 2nd line by a fair amount. Edmonton has an awesome top line, a not terrible 2nd line and then two lines that wouldn't make some teams. Deep teams like TO and Tampa would have no place for half of the forwards in Edmonton.</div></div>

What makes Brown special? What qualities does he have that will drive the 2nd line in EDM? What makes him worthwhile to trade their 2nd-best defenseman? I've looked at his transition play (<a href="https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard</a>). I looked at his 5v5 production (<a href="http://corsica.hockey/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://corsica.hockey/</a>). I've seen how his on-ice metrics compare other wingers (<a href="https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SkaterComparisonToolv2/Dashboard1" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SkaterComparisonToolv2/Dashboard1</a>) I've watched plenty of Leafs games to see what he does. He's nothing special, and if you think he is, then keep him on the Leafs because no other teams are giving up anything more than a middling draft pick for him.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 hours ago
Thread: Connor Brown is perfect winger for McDavid - also Timmo Thomaskinen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>Brown would very likely play on the top line in Edmonton, and on the flip side, I am not sure any wingers in Edmonton could even make the Leafs roster. This is the problem with Edmonton, you have no depth, this will get you depth without costing you much of a downgrade on the blue line. Its a smart hockey move that benefits both teams. Or you can keep saying its spare parts and watch your team try to make guys like Rattie become NHLers when they are AHLers at best. Why wouldn't you want to move Larsson and get a winger who could blossom playing important minutes he'll never get in TO and also get a defenceman who isn't much of a drop off from Larsson.</div></div>

I've gotta say, every team has a guy like Connor Brown. He's not special. EDM has Toby Rieder, they've posted almost exactly the same 5v5 production over the past 3 seasons. EDM also has Caggiula, a hard worker that has produced when he's put with McDavid. And right now, they're playing Chiasson on the top line and he has 12 goals in 25 games. I agree that EDM needs wingers, but they should be looking to get someone that can produce on his own line. They're not going to trade Larsson (he plays big minutes and now Klefbom is out) for a guy that McDavid played with in juniors.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago
Thread: Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kscoop</b></div><div>He isn't scoring 40 this year.</div></div>

I mean, it's a rough estimate but if you apply his career shooting percentage to this season YTD and extrapolate out the rest of the year, he would have 41 goals... the Blues aren't going to let the team's struggles bring down the value of their franchise player. He's a top-10 RW in the game (and a top-5 5v5 winger) with term left on his deal. I bet they'd be asking for DeBrusk + Studnicka + 1st, and maybe more if they have to take Backes. Even if he fits in the cap, the Blues aren't going to sit around for a few seasons, they would be trading a core player and trying to go for it again next year IMO. Backes taking up a roster spot / UFA spending money would be a big ask.