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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 3:54 p.m.
Thread: Offszn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>I don;t agree. Pretty much everything that could go wrong went wrong this season, and when a team is competitive 95% of the time and then they have one of those years, I kinda like their chances to resume normal service with a season reset. Usually this franchise picks upits socks midseason, but that just wasn;t happening this time. There's going to be a lot of players who play better than they did this season. Switching Byram (or Orlov or any of a number of LDs) in for Krug or Leddy, and this is a playoff team again.</div></div>

I guess we'll have to wait and see. I agree that this season shouldn't be used to judge individual performances - as a whole the team is just broken. But they've made it hard to project wins because statistically they overperformed in '21-22 and then crashed and burned this year. I guess if Vrana and Kapanen can be 20 goal guys, if Schenn, Faulk, etc bounce back, and if they find someone to pair with Parayko to make a capable top pair there is a chance for playoffs. Based on the history I'm definitely more interested in the longer term than Stillman and co. so we'll probably see them make a push sooner than later.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 1:14 p.m.
Thread: Offszn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BluesTheGreats</b></div><div>I didn’t want to do anything yet I kind of wanted suggestions on what other people think</div></div>

My plan would involve shedding a D contract, preferably Krug, and trying to find someone internally or from outside who is younger but can handle 20 min per night. Maybe someone like a Vince Dunn or a Jake Walman (kill me). If there are good offers for Parayko in the offseason when teams have more cap flexibility I think you have to entertain them; he can help someone win now and the package we get can help us in 2-3 yrs. I think we should reinforce this concept that the rebuild doesn't need to be instant, it needs to be cohesive. Either be really good or really bad, don't hit the middle ground.

I'd also be watching Alexandrov and give him some more opportunity to see if he can be a capable 3C next season because that would be an area for an acquisition if he (or Brown, who is nearly hopeless at this point) doesn't show enough offense. But the key to this offseason will be avoiding any bad spending, I'd much rather see the Blues find some more bargains than try to fix the team with big spending in free agency. With 3 1sts in this draft and Snuggerud and Bolduc probably at least a full year away from reaching the show, I would love to see a "building" year in '23-24.

Thomas, Kyrou, and Snuggerud would be my untouchables. Anyone else is fair game for the right offer, which includes Buchnevich begrudgingly. I wish we could make him part of the core but he'll be 30 when it's time to sign his next contract, and he could fetch a return that could really accelerate the rebuild.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1 at 12:08 p.m.
Thread: Sad tbh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>Just gonna comment on a few of these. Letting Perron walk should have never happened. Letting Pietrangelo walk over a NMC also probably shouldn’t have ever happened.

That being said, aside from the extensions on Scandella and Leddy after a stretch of 15 games or so with Parayko should’ve never happened. I get the Scandella one tbh. It was our closest thing to a suitable partner for Parayko we had seen since JayBo retired. More of a fool me once situation. I hated the Leddy extension from the start. It’s Scandella 2.0. Paying term for a square peg to fit into a round hole because of a short stretch of success.

Krug was pretty much something that needed to be done. Our powerplay wasn’t great and the thought was Parayko would ascend into a 1D like Pietrangelo. Had the money and got a weapon. Faulk I never understood at the time. It was a fairly good deal. But we had Pietro and Parayko. There was nowhere to fit Faulk. Just didn’t make a lot of sense.

If we’re honest with ourselves, Walman, Edmundson, and Sundqvist all needed a change. They weren’t cracking the lineup or were struggling. Eddy was healthy scratched much of that cup run. Sunny was fresh off an ACL trae surgery and he was noticeably slow and we desperately needed defense.

Walman couldn’t crack the lineup.

Dunn hurt, but he wasn’t very trusted by our coaching staff at all the season prior. Was very shaky in his own end.

The Blues defense contracts really aren’t that bad. Parayko is still a top end defenseman. He needs a suitable partner though if he’s going to be put into the usage he is. Faulk is ok, was good the past two seasons. But hasn’t looked great this one. Krug is overpaid, Leddy is very average.</div></div>

I'll concede that in the cases of Dunn, Edmundson, and especially Walman, there may be some hindsight involved. But IMO it speaks more to the philosophy of the coaching staff, i.e. why are guys that clearly possess NHL talent not valued or can't succeed in the system? We knew Dunn was gonna be Seattle's Shea Theodore and here we are. We didn't know it about Walman but he was never given an opportunity to play his game, he was strapped to Bortuzzo and told to play safe or ride pine.

I had no issue with trading for Scandella but extending him for a tacky amount after like 8 good games was the issue. Same with Leddy, the trade seemed necessary, the extension was brutal especially with the context of choosing to give that money to Leddy vs Perron.

We will see what happens but I've become extremely pessimistic that Army will be able to fix anything on defense without falling into a full, long rebuild. And maybe that doesn't waste the entire primes of Thomas and Kyrou but it definitely could have been avoided.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 11:35 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 10:10 a.m.
Thread: Finish the Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>I'm sure he was shopping him for contending teams looking to pay well for a goal scorer for the playoffs.

He has two years left on his contract -- he's not particularly being forced to trade him. Yzerman is more than likely willing to let Vrana simmer in Detroit and give him a good opportunity to either
A) Be resigned
or
B) Be traded at next deadline if Red Wings don't particularly need him.
One thing is for sure, Vrana will definitely fetch more than that.</div></div>

I agree that he's not forced to do anything but 5.25m in cap space could be more enticing than trying to infuse value in someone who is not part of the future of the team. Anyway if he costs more than that I still think the Blues should take a chance on a guy like Vrana who they can feed top 6 minutes and don't have to sink a ton of years into a contract like they would signing a UFA. They need skaters to fill the gap while Bolduc and Snuggerud are developing.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23 at 12:48 p.m.
Thread: Blues Time
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheEarthmaster</b></div><div>You pretty much have to move one of the big defense contracts to fit Meier in at all, so getting someone like Meier sort of begets addressing the defense. Besides, Josh Leivo is playing 2RW right now, they truly do need a forward after moving both Tarasenko and O'Reilly and losing Perron, might as well be a really good forward around the ages of Thomas and Kyrou.</div></div>

True, but re-tooling the defense is either going to take (1) time or (2) spending futures, which is why I can't wrap my head around STL joining the race for Meier. Maybe in the offseason if you can grab him similar to how LAK got Fiala, but not now when they have so much more work to do. I'd rather see them wait - and def not saying they'll be as good as Meier - for Snuggerud and Bolduc and for a shake-up on the defense to create the cap space before jumping into a massive deal like this one.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 21 at 5:08 p.m.
Thread: Meier to blues at worst
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Okay for all who seem to be confused, this is the rough makings of a trade, not the whole trade itself. I didn’t look at the blues page to see how sh*tty they lined themselves up next year and beyond. There are stupid trades of a late 1st, 2nd and depth players and that isn’t happening. If that was the ask a team would have Meier by now.</div></div>

Don't worry, Blues could figure out the cap. I just spent 2 seconds on a '23-24 team and a Scandella buyout plus Bolduc + Hofer promotions and Perunovich/Tucker extensions gets you to 20 players and about 4 million bucks leftover. And that's before Armstrong does the inevitable and figures out a way to escape from the top 4 he built.

As for a Meier trade, I agree with you this would be the floor. If it goes to the offseason, the comp would be Fiala which I'd peg around 2 late 1sts. At the deadline they could do better, I figure the Devils will pull the trigger.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 21 at 1:16 p.m.
Thread: Mortgage The Future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>I didn't really see anything on measuring QoC/QoT. I just fail to see how this can be a sole source of comparison I guess is the best way to put it. I think it generally gives a good view of how a player leans in terms of usage. I just fail to see how it can measure the difference between being on the ice 1/3rd of the time with a McDavid or however many minutes he is and then scale it that way I guess is the best way to put it. I don't think it's any secret that Edmonton scores at a much much higher rate than St. Louis. I just find it hard to really put a percentage value like it does on a defensemans output on the situation and not clearly define it as being a part of the product of surroundings.</div></div>

Sorry the bar chart has spoken. It does not need to be analyzed or questioned; simply look at the bars, they have quantified a numerical value of the players that cannot be debated.