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Thread: Trade thread 2021/2022 season

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Forum: Armchair-GM21 hours ago

Thread: Vladi stays

I haven't been impressed with the value in contracts getting signed today - not jealous of any deals really, maybe Schwartz at 5.5x5. But if the Blues go into next season with Sanford in their top9 I'm gonna be pretty upset. DA needs to trade his rights for a late pick and use that 2.5 + the 2.5 in space to sign a guy like Saad/Tatar/Hoffman/Palmieri. Gotta push for at least the next 2 yrs, then it's disaster time.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 3:30 pm

Thread: should i change my tag

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buchiegang</b></div><div>I view that as an overpay considering the value of the players going back, but certainly I think the Ranger's 1st is up for grabs in the right deal for Hertl.</div></div>

Sorry for your loss. If it's any consolation, for empathy's sake, the Blues have lost basically all of my favorite players in the last couple of years. We'll take good care of Buch, he looks like a hell of a player.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 10:49 am

Thread: Meier Saad McCabe

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheEarthmaster</b></div><div>Looks like a pretty good team to me. Love Meier and McCabe.

Would like to see us move on from Scandella if possible. Seems like LHD are getting solid returns and he'd be a "luxury" at this point, especially with our internal options. Dunno why Capfriendly is saying he has a full NTC here, he definitely does not.</div></div>

Yep he has a 7-team no-trade list, should be navigable. Remember when Marco was amazing for like 4 games and got a 4 year deal out of it? Good times. If Blues add a LHD I agree with you, he should be moved for a pick and Walman/Mikkola/Perunovich can hold down the 3rd pair with Bortuzzo.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 4:58 pm

Thread: Landeskog

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JToller1</b></div><div>I would do Nolan Foote, Kevin Bahl, and a Top 15 protected 1st in 2022. Return isn't bad tho.</div></div>

I think the Blues would be lucky to get Foote in a 1-for-1. Some people are expecting too much for Vladdy IMO. It's nearly August and he still hasn't been moved. If they want to have money for free agents they're gonna have to cut bait in the next few days and settle for a pretty low return. Now if STL is going to retain or take back bad money, maybe they get a nicer return. But for a team to take him at 7.5m I think the cost is going to be a prospect who is getting lost in the mix (say a Jesper Boqvist or Keiffer Bellows or Bode Wilde) and a 2nd round pick, maybe another conditional pick based on VT's stats next season.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 4:03 pm

Thread: Give him a shot

What's going on with this MTL trade? Burning two 1sts on a backup goalie?

Those Thomas and Kyrou deals look low, I'm thinking 2 yrs is more like 2.5m apiece.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 9:03 pm

Thread: High hopes

If the Blues are gonna land any free agents they should be fine with this return. If not they should be willing to retain and try to get a better pick or player coming back. This vladdy saga needs a swift ending IMO.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 8:25 pm

Thread: Chevy did good

I was getting so hyped watching picks go by with Lucius still otb... and then the Blues took Bolduc. I think the Jets def made the right call taking him at 18, I love his game (and the name). Could be one of those selections that looks like a real head scratcher for the Blues but way too early to tell.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 4:25 pm

Thread: Kraken cap space

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>I think you can forget Hoffman coming back. Thank goodness.</div></div>

Of course this mock gets outdated 30 seconds after posting haha. Buch is a solid pickup for the top six, I'm pretty pumped.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 10:08 am

Thread: Isles

You've got 2 mil in cap space and Bellows as a HS so maybe if the Isles beef up the offer to Bellows, 2nd, 4th for VT @5.75m they could make the deal. As written here probably isn't enough considering Armstrong still hasn't made the move and these are the types of lowballs he's had to brush off.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 3:55 pm

Thread: Kakko for Thomas

I'm hard-wired to like Thomas, but even if you like Kakko more, center > winger all day. Top six centers are hard to find, wingers can be slotted in and out.

Sidenote a lot of fans are really depressing values on Blues players after what I'd call a pretty brutal season. 3 guys played well, that's it. Other than ROR, Kyrou, and Faulk, every other player was a disappointment vs expectations IMO. I'm expecting guys like Thomas, Dunn, Schwartz, Schenn, Parayko to bounce back to being reliable impact players. Something about last season just stunk around here and I wouldn't read too far into the numbers.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 21 at 1:51

Thread: Trying to Salvage this Crappy Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>STLBlues17</b></div><div>The self destruction is a little bit fun to watch</div></div>

If you can name one good thing that has happened since they lifted the banner... I know you'd just be giving undue credit :tearsofjoy

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 19 at 5:29

Thread: BOL Vladdy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>"They'd probably still move Dunn if Vladdy is selected... "

Not sure why that would be, since exposing Vladdy is likely an attempt to keep Dunn.

Also, spending that kind of money on Raanta is a waste. He seems to be slipping fast, and Husso will likely be better than him soon anyway.</div></div>

I guess that depends on if you believe Army has been shopping Dunn for a while or not. I think he would definitely pull the trigger on something reasonable if it comes across his desk, and then probably try to add a more defensive guy to play with Parayko on the shut-down pairing.

Valid concern with Raanta - he's always injured, but he has good numbers when healthy. I'd still trust him over most of the other FA goalies, and over Husso at this point.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 17 at 10:43

Thread: STL fans please advise

I dont think theyll rebuild, theyll be spending to the cap and trying to compete this year. There are pros and cons to taking back Eberle. He is a good winger but Perron and kyrou can hold down the top6 RW so the money would be better spent on a LW... but finding a UFA to use the cap space on can be tricky, and they probably would end up adding a contract with more term than the 3 yrs for Ebs.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 17 at 10:26

Thread: Wishful thinking

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Still utterly baffled at why anyone would throw good money at Oleksiak.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HypotheticalImpossibility</b></div><div>He's a tree trunk that plays hockey. At that size, he only has to stand there menacingly to be somewhat effective.</div></div>

Now that Suter's name is out there, he should be in any dream scenario over oleksiak. Old man still has a year or two left in him IMO.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 16 at 3:09

Thread: Fitz talking to other GMs

I'm counting down the hours for when I switch from "ffs trade Dunn already" to "protect Dunn and expose Krug ffs". I've already moved well past "keep Dunn" because it looks like that ship has sailed.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 14 at 4:33

Thread: Saw this on twitter

I like it. If Coleman won't sign, could probably get Schwartz back in the 4.5-5.5 range.

Landy-ROR-Perron
Schwartz-Schenn-Kyrou
DeBrusk-Thomas-Sundqvist
Blais-Barbashev-Kostin

Someone still needs to be a hero on defense... we probably just witnessed the best year Faulk is gonna have on this contract so I wouldn't count on it from him. Praying Parayko's back is 100% and he puts up a career year in the no.1 role.

Forum: GM Game 2019-20Jul 14 at 2:41

Thread: GM Game - Winnipeg Jets v4s3 - Nino OTB

<a href="/users/flamesfan419" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@flamesfan419</a> Take it away brother

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 13 at 9:51

Thread: Did parise pass Pelech as first priority

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Islesforthecup</b></div><div>Dont worry i have a trade just for you, either you retain or a 3rd team does but yoi dont take eberle</div></div>

I see it and I guess it works. I'm having a hard time being rational tbh, Dunn and Tarasenko are prob my 2 favorite Blues and this offseason is pure pain. Looking at this original deal here, it isnt even that bad. I think the Blues need more help at LW than anything so that's why Eberle doesn't sound all that appealing. But hey, 3 yrs of Ebs might be smarter than freeing up the cap and giving 7 yrs to someone who doesnt deserve it (like Armstrong loves to do lately)

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 13 at 9:30

Thread: Did parise pass Pelech as first priority

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>islanders15</b></div><div>I dont even want Tarasenko, i want garland. but right now theyre connected to Tarasenko so i mocked a trade, for a first line winger and a couple lotto tickets.</div></div>

Fair enough. I don't expect much for VT, I just dont like the thought of retaining that much and taking on another contract. Maybe one or the other.

Garland is a hell of a player.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 13 at 9:21

Thread: Did parise pass Pelech as first priority

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>islanders15</b></div><div>5.5 million for a guy whos played 34 games the past 3 years feels like a lotto ticket to me. tbh</div></div>

That's what everyone keeps saying as they mock up trades that they think upgrade their team.

34 in 2 yrs*. Dude had a messed up shoulder. Also had 30+ goals for 5 seasons before that. Yes he's a lotto ticket, but this whole deal is a huge W for NYI. Dunn and tarasenko for 8m total and the Blues get age 31-33 eberle for 8m, 2 projects, and some picks in the 50s. How bout the 2nd rd picks for VT at 7.5 and sweet lou figures out the cap from there?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 13 at 8:57

Thread: Did parise pass Pelech as first priority

Looks a lot like the Blues effectively paying Eberle 8m of the cap and getting 4 lotto tickets. I hope they can do better than this.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 13 at 8:52

Thread: St Louis 2022

You correctly say that the Blues were middling but then you made them even more middling. They need to get assets for Dunn and Tarasenko and use them wisely. I don't hate Hoffman and Schwartz at those numbers but kerfoot, komarov, and dreiger for 10 mil isn't a good idea. The sad part is, it's not unrealistic. I just hope they can do a lot better than this offseason.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 12 at 11:51

Thread: Turn the Page

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>is it really selling low when they have to deal him or they lose him for nothing? i feel like a second round pick > nothing</div></div>

It's funny, I've seen lots of Dunn trades and I've noticed that people think he won't fetch the NYI or MTL 1st but then people say underpayment when they see DET 2nd. It's only 6-8 picks down the line, probably picking from the same tier of prospects. Getting 37oa and losing Dunn and Barbashev sucks but losing it nets a better value than doing nothing and watching Seattle take Dunn.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 12 at 11:45

Thread: Turn the Page

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OnlyBadDeals</b></div><div>I bigger role could be just added PP or PK time that he doesn't get in Carolina. It's doesn't explicitly need to be a higher line</div></div>

Not sure if Carolina would gamble on Vlad and move out foegele or nino but either would be good forecheckers on Thomas' wing and if they go to the net they'll score plenty of goals. Not gonna replace the 2019 version of Tarasenko but may be the best the Blues are gonna be offered.

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