May 17, 2015
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>My guess is that Vancouver keeps Miller and signs him long term - then moves Horvat instead. But regardless, if they move Miller or Horvat they’d likely be looking for multiple younger assets, not just Nylander and likely a young right handed defenceman. Something that Toronto shouldn’t consider. & if Miller didn’t come with a guaranteed extension, not a chance that’s done. Even with a deal in place, Miller is likely to get $8.5m which is affordable in Toronto.</div></div>
My guess is whoever resigns Miller will love it for 1 year, like it for another 1-2 years, and hate it for the rest of their term. Outside of perhaps TJ Oshie (and Ovechkin, but you can't compare players to generational talents like him), all of the more physical, but not quite power forward players I can think of decline quite rapidly compared to their peers around 30
In no particular order:
Ladd, Backes, Clarkson, Lucic (he was a power forward), Okposo, Brendan Morrow, Benn, etc
For the record I said the same about resigning Landy and Lee, so maybe I'm dumb as it looks good for now re Landy, but I think we're seeing it in Lee
Physical wingers in particular don't seem to age well...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>You’re literally only judging Konecny by his points.. cool story. Konecny brings an element that Toronto doesn’t have. He’s also responsible defensively much better than Nylander - & what I mean by consistency is the fact that he’s going to give you the same effort on defence as he does on offence.
Tavares has the ability to make players around him better - look at what he did with Josh Bailey and Kyle Okposo. He does is with Nylander too - when Nylander’a in a slump, it’s usually Tavares that helps pull him out of it. Tavares is also at his best when he plays with guys that play with speed and move more north-south. Hats not Nylander. Nylander is an east-west guy with speed and that’s why the chemistry is more inconsistent. Konecny suits Tavares’ style better. & if he doesn’t work out, try him with Matthews and put Marner with Tavares. It still works.
But hey just cause you disagree doesn’t me you have to resort to insults. Doesn’t seem necessary.</div></div>
The thing about Nylander is that he does have defensive skills, he just doesn't use them consistently. Dude is a wizard with his stick, and can steal pucks and create turnovers with the best of them. He can also back check with speed to break up plays when he's engaged. The problem with Nylander from what I see, is less his engagement in general, and more that when he goes into slumps, as essentially all offensive players outside of superstars do, he starts to really cheat/get lazy defensively to try to turn it around offensively. He also obviously is not as physical as anyone would like limiting his game. But I truly believe if anyone could get it into his/instincts to stop cheating/giving up defensively he could be a mildly above average defensive player based on his speed and stick wizardry, even with his less physical game... But all that being said he's in his mid 20s, so the chance that someone can change him decreases every year...