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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:57 a.m.

Thread: Reunite Foote brothers

Detroit only have two retention slots and need them for their own players at the deadline. If you want Detroit to retain salary you'll have to offer a lot more than a 4th and a player that we could have had for free on waivers.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11 at 8:39 p.m.

Thread: Zadina

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jet11567</b></div><div>The site has him listed as a RD for some reason even tho he’s left handed and plays the left side. And Detroit has a need for left d</div></div>

Detroit have a need for <em>veteran</em> LD. They already have a bunch of young prospects like Edvinsson, Johansson, Viro, Sebrango, McIsaac, Buium, Wallinder, and Moore.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 8 at 7:50 p.m.

Thread: My deadline moves

Hirvonen is a good prospect for Detroit. He's almost doubled his point production in Liiga this year and is known for his good hockey sense.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 7 at 7:50 p.m.

Thread: Need an upgrade on LHD

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>Maybe a 2nd + later pick

FLO doesn’t have a 2022 1st or 2nd RD pick so I pushed it too 2023, which is one year away not two</div></div>

With the lottery protection it could very well end up two years away.

Other teams have 2nd round picks in '22 to offer and also players more useful to Detroit. The risk of having to wait for 6-7 years before getting anything useful out of Leddy isn't especially enticing. I'd much rather deal him to a team that offers a prospect that can make the team within two years at the most.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 7 at 5:53 p.m.

Thread: Need an upgrade on LHD

I don't like this offer from Detroit's point of view. Neither of the players offered bring any value at all and the pick could be two years away. I'd much rather have a 2nd round pick in '22 than a 1st round pick in '24.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 6 at 7:32 a.m.

Thread: Trade Dealine

Detroit isn't going to make the playoffs this year but they do need LD for next year. If there's an extension in place Hägg could be a good choice.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 6 at 7:29 a.m.

Thread: Pittsburgh penguins PT1

Detroit declines.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 4 at 5:17 a.m.

Thread: Next Season for the Island

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I'm not so sure they do. Detroit has Hronek, Seider and Lindstrom they just don't need him.</div></div>

There's only Barton and Newpower on RD as injury backups. Wilde is waiver exempt another season and could be very useful if Tuomisto doesn't want to cut his college career short.

I'd accept the offer, it's a good deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 31, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.

Thread: Trade deadline or sooner

If there's an extension in place I'd do the Copp deal. Especially if that means that he'll be on a more reasonable contract than what off-season bidding wars can lead to.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 22, 2021 at 2:51 p.m.

Thread: They Have To Try

I think Johnsson would be a great fit in Detroit. He's a lot better than Smith, Gagner, and Rowney (and maybe even better than Namestnikov) and we don't know what will happen with trades and injuries. I'll happily take Andreas off your hands for a 4th.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 22, 2021 at 9:48 a.m.

Thread: Money to Burn

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dtd_tank</b></div><div>Oh, I 100% agree with you. Only reason I moved Suter instead of Fabbri was because he just signed that $4M contract (that I don't think he's worth by any means). I just figured, based on that, moving Fabbri probably/unfortunately wasn't realistic.</div></div>

I think the Fabbri signing makes him more valuable in a trade, not less. There will be more teams interested in a cost controlled player with a few years left on the contract than as a rental.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 22, 2021 at 9:36 a.m.

Thread: Money to Burn

I think it's too early to give up on Suter. He's only just now getting the hang of the team and is getting better and better. He's been hampered by playing with Fabbri and Zadina most of the time and there's no true playmaker on that line, they're all three shooters. Playing Suter with someone like Berggren could make wonders for his production. That could free up Fabbri for a trade, he's the worst of all regular forwards when it comes to playing defense.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 20, 2021 at 11:23 a.m.

Thread: Part 2 - My 22-23 Pens - The 22-Off-Season - After Part 1 - My 21-22 Pens

You need to pay a lot more if you want Detroit to retain salary. They only have two slots and need them for their own players at the deadline.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 16, 2021 at 8:07 p.m.

Thread: Backup Goalie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bluspy88</b></div><div>If they wanna move Greiss to a contender, that cap hit is too much. Most I can see them getting is a 5th unless he plays better.</div></div>

Utterly irrelevant!

Detroit have two retention slots and five players likely being traded at the deadline. <strong>The two retention slots will be used on the two trades where they get the best return and that will not be on a 6th round pick!</strong>

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 15, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.

Thread: Backup Goalie

Detroit isn't wasting one of their two remaining retention slots for a measly 6th round pick!

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 13, 2021 at 2:52 a.m.

Thread: Next years Wings

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stevierebz</b></div><div>Who tho? Mcnabb, maybe?</div></div>

That's the obvious one. Another option is to trade for someone like Marcus Pettersson. Then there's the situation in Vegas with their cap when Eichel comes back that might be exploited.

Loads of teams will have problems becoming cap compliant this coming offseason. It could be a valid strategy to trade Leddy at the deadline and rely on other teams misfortunes to fill the needed spots.

Oh, and Wallinder needs another year in Sweden before he's brought over. Signing him is fine but let him develop another year before sending him to the AHL. There are no roster spots open anyway.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 12, 2021 at 9:58 p.m.

Thread: Next years Wings

That left side defense will cause major problems. Neither Leddy nor Edvinsson play PK and Oesterle isn't good at it.

You need to sign a shutdown defender and make Oesterle the 7th D and let Edvinsson start in Grand Rapids in favour of Johansson who is a more mature defender that handles defensive situations better.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 12, 2021 at 7:13 a.m.

Thread: Trade deadline

Detroit declines.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 10, 2021 at 8:31 p.m.

Thread: Maybe some overpays but its worth some cups

Detroit would accept that without the retention. You don't need retention to stay cap compliant and Detroit have other potential trades they need their two remaining retention slots on much more.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 10, 2021 at 12:34 p.m.

Thread: 2022-23

If Leddy is traded away at the deadline then Yzerman absolutely has to replace him with someone capable of running the 2nd PP. If that isn't done then the only available option left is Hronek and we all saw what a disaster that was last season!

I don't know who's available for that job but someone like Gostisbehere could be a fit if Arizona wants to part with him.

Detroit also needs a really good shutdown defenseman on the left side. I'd like to pry away Marcus Pettersson from Pittsburgh. He's been doing great this year and is overpaid enough that we might get him on the cheap.

The third spot can be fought over (or shared 50/50) by Albert Johansson and Edvin Simonsson with Oesterle being #7.

I would also rather see Hertl as a 2C if possible and Copp as an alternative if we can't get Hertl. In fact I wouldn't mind going after both of them!

I also want to see Theodor Niederbach signed so that he can get a year in the AHL before becoming ready for the Wings and I definitely want to see Jonatan Berggren up next year.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 10, 2021 at 10:58 a.m.

Thread: One of the best D cores

Detroit only have two retention slots and they need them for their own players. We have five players on expiring contracts that may have to be traded at the deadline and Yzerman isn't going to squander a good return on players like Leddy or Fabbri or Greiss or Namestnikov just because they can't retain salary.

If you want to use one of the only two retention slots Detroit have then you'll have to offer much more than a B- prospect.

This has nothing to do with cap or money. It has everything to do with the three retention limit.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 9, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.

Thread: Ready to start competing

You should resign Pius Suter too.

With a hard working, defensively responsible, centre in Veleno and a playmaking right winger in Berggren, Suter would be perfect as a shooter on the left side. Rasmussen doesn't fit in that line at all.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 9, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.

Thread: Ready to start competing

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>crankshaft</b></div><div>Looking forward to seeing Eklund and Edvinsson at World Juniors.</div></div>

Alexander Holtz is likely to be there as well. The negotiations are ongoing with his team and there's a spot kept open for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 9, 2021 at 11:28 a.m.

Thread: yo waddup

It's more likely that Albert Johansson makes the team next year than Simon Edvinsson. Albert is a lot more mature in his play and he plays PK which Simon doesn't do at all. Simon is a fantastic talent but he needs time in the AHL a lot more than Albert does.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 9, 2021 at 11:22 a.m.

Thread: Thoughts MIN Fans

Detroit only have two retention slots free and need them for their own players. Detroit have five players on expiring contracts that may need retention to get a good return at the deadline.

If you want Detroit to forego a decent return on players like Fabbri, Greiss, Leddy, Stecher, Namestnikov then you'll have to stump up a lot more than a 5th round pick as compensation.

It's not about the cap or the money, it's the three slot limit for retentions.

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