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Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 2:56 a.m.
Thread: Habs 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I disagree now some players don’t mind playing on their off side but they are at a definite disadvantage. Trying to hold the puck in the player on their forehand is going to win that battle more times than not. You can put your ass to the boards and stop it with your skate and leg but then it’s really hard to make a play from that position. You are basically waiting for another player to come along and dig it out. In the defensive zone along the boards you run in to the same problems. Plus clearing the puck up the boards becomes a problem because your constantly hitting the boards at an unfavorable angle and instead of going up the boards the puck pops out to the middle of the of the zone where the defenseman on the other side or a back checking forward can easily turn it in to a quality scoring opportunity. When it comes to hockey IQ it’s almost negligible. Let’s use Guhle as an example. He has a high hockey IQ and wether he’s in the 1st or 2nd pair he’s going to be seeing a lot of the other teams 1st and 2nd lines and most of them have high hockey IQs as well. You can’t tell me that a top 6 winger isn’t looking at a defenseman on his side and seeing that as a weakness he can exploit. If you were to poll GMs and coaches I think a lot of them would rather have RHDs on the right and LHDs on the left especially in their 1st and 2nd pairs. Sometimes they are forced to play defensemen on their off side like with the Wings last season after trading Hronek we didn’t have another NHL ready RHD so Chariot played on the right side. With Montreal this season Guhle on his off side is still better than any of your other RHDs except Savard so it makes sense to play him on the right. But if Montreal had a choice they would prefer him on the left.

Would Guhle play above all our current LHDs probably every one but Edvinsson and we do have some very good LHDs in our system. But upgrading a position that is set, when we have holes in other spots that desperately need attention would be poor roster management . As I've been saying about trading for Chychrun, it's a luxury we can't afford right now and it applies to Guhle as well.</div></div>

Name Them and prove your point
if they're so common 10 should surface
Ones who can play both sides without declining his play whether that be 1st pair or 3rd pair ,ill set the bar low and say it doesnt matter.
Thats Guhle as he thrives on either side at high levels giving up less SHG against then Matheson did (most of which when MM partnered with Savard and Barron)
Guhle actually brought some defensively consistency to Mathesons career high 60 point season

i agree with some of your comment, really about 85% or more i'd say is true or partially anyways .
But its not as common to thrive on your off side for a lot of the reasons you listed above . Far as what a GM wants i think its better put like this.
If you're a GM and offered a Morgan Reilly who plays both sides at the highest level or Doughty who is Elite just the same but can only do it on his strong side, Which do you choose? Struble and Engstrom for us were smart enough to see lack of minutes as soon as they hit Major Junior or USHL so they began training harder packing on weight and learning to play as RD.

They're different from Xhekaj or Guhle who've adapted to it for icetime the last 2 years fighting for minutes with Harris. They're instead players who's styles are defined by odd positioning. Engstrom skates and carries the puck a lot especially around the net for tuck in goals . Most of his goals come this way or passing from behind the net then collapsing down low for rebounds. Because he's a Left on the right side with it throws the goalie off especially when a Dman is that low. Struble has a different style which is protect the puck and wrestle players grinding them down others can get a step on them. His styles defined by his ability to protect the puck and recover it as much as its defined by his ability to block shots and lay the Boom.

Not all Defense are created equal
Some like Oleksiak or Reilly filled a need so long on their offside its second nature.
But most become a weak spot for teams to attack

To have Strong Back Hand Control like Morgan Reilly for example has to the point he can make Flawless back handed passes in transition long distances and make it look easy. There's about 4 others in the NHL like him who can play top 4 on both sides without declining as a player.

Far as DET and MTL like i said before im not advocating the trade or the partner in which we trade with.
I saw Guhle being diminished and pointed out why we dont see it that way was all
I get he's not a fit in DET , doesnt mean i let anyone talk poorly about him anymore then you would let me about Raymond (not that i would)
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 12:54 p.m.
Thread: If Hutson Makes it Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Call me crazy but I'd rather see him and Reinbacher in Laval next year. If they trade one of Harris or Struble then I think they're planning for Hutson in the NHL but otherwise I would give him another year</div></div>

He's making a strong case for himself already but you're right
That said Mailloux has the inside Track with established Chemistry with Xhekaj and a strong ability to lead PP
While we can keep players down to an extent Struble has 14 games left til he requires Waivers . Xhekaj, Guhle and Barron have 1 year or 40-70 games from lowest to highest.
Hutson unlike Struble and Harris wont blow through his Waiver Exempt because even though he just turned 20 by MTL signing him for these final 2 games his Waiver Exemption days went up by 55 games i believe it was? or maybe just 50? anyways it went up by a lot is the point . Had Hutson waited til after MTL's last games then this isnt an option. Its why i dont get why fans are upset about burning a year because when we signed him he was only eligible for 2 years at his age but because the season wasnt over for MTL and he was 19 when he started the 3 years was allowed. we lost nothing and Gained a lot of Flexibility we may need.

Plus Engstroms no Joke
Overachiever who's 20 in a SHL Final waiting for his opponent
If he continues to have everything go his way in 2024 then he'll hit the ground running when he joins Laval likely in the next week and a half if Skalliftea can beat Frohlunda tommorrow.
Always being in a Left D heavy system to get minutes he became a Left Shooting RD so good he rose up in World Juniors due to versatility and through the SHL as well.
For Context Wallinder his Teammate turned Pro after 2 years in the same team and Wallander out scored him by 1 point in those 2 seasons with at least 4 games remaining for Engstrom.
Question becomes is the Transition going to hit Engstrom as hard as it did Wallander ?

Camp this year will force moves
If we're smart we try to leverage some players into Picks at the Draft
Kovacevic for a 3rd of 4th rounder would do it for me
Maybe try leveraging Matheson in a trade to a contender to take back a player they cant afford or maybe they just have too many forwards and limited Cap but Need Defense.
Either way you try for a Matheson deal in the summer IMO while he's riding career high numbers. Maybe move him to EDM for Ceci a prospect and a 1st
EDM being cap strapped Mathesons extra year at 4.8m can help them short term anyways and Matheson can eat up as many minutes as Ceci.

We can just RS and Flip Ceci or Savard at the TDL and pay to have someone else RS on the other.
Move out Matheson, Savard, Ceci and Kovacevic from the Draft to the TDL so youth can step up.
Come summer 2025 if a hole is still there we'll acquire a veteran short term to mentor them but i feel Guhle/Xhekaj could handle leading the Youth Core at this point
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 11:59 a.m.
Thread: Bold move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>That's some very generic reasoning that is very tilted to a Montreal perspective in this trade. Every draft is a "deep draft" to the team that wants to trade extra picks to move up. I'd still much rather pick quality over quantity. You'd need something much closer to the late 30's/early 40's if there was an interest in moving up into the top-20 from LA. Not late 50's.



With regards to the bolded part of your quote -- You and every other Montreal fan on here. Just like the responses on their boards, the Kings don't have an interest in Harris or Struble. Neither of them play over Anderson, Gavrikov, or Englund.

In addition, LA is certainly not prepared to give up on Turcotte. They recognize his development problems have been injury related, not skill related. Even this year, he played on the top line with Kopitar and Byfield. He will make the team out of camp next year, there won't be a need to worry about waivers. His ceiling might not be what they hoped, but he has shown when he's healthy he's a middle-6'er at the NHL level. And the Kings will need his lower cap hit to help fill out the rest of the roster.



Lol. I'm not fan of PLD, by any means. But they aren't going to pay a 1st round pick just to off-load someone who automatically becomes your 2nd line center. If he was being paid 5-6mil nobody would be batting an eye at his production. That means he's overpaid by 2.5-3.5mil, not 8.5mil. He's a pain to have to deal with in terms of cap, but LA is more than likely stuck with him.</div></div>

If Anderson was making 2-3 million no one would be batting an eye either
Shaving 2.5 to 3m off one's Salary has that effect

Reality is MTL didnt want to move Subban either and were already committed to moving Pacioretty to end their spat
But Subban underperformed and before his NMC kicked in MTL moved him which turned out to be the right call long term.
LAK waiting means you accept him remaining there the next 4 years


Far as Turcotte i dont even care about him that much, only reason i even had any interest is like i said for Laval Rockets Purposes as i truly believe he isnt an NHL play anymore then Lias Anderson. That said Lias Anderson has turned out to be great for our AHL core hence the idea of re-uniting them in Laval. IMO even a Harris would be overpaying for Turcotte at this point in his career. Its why i nonchalantly mentioned it to test the waters to see if LAK fans have lowered their ask again this year(as each year it does drop with you guys)

Far as the picks go i think you're right MTL is better off keeping them and you're better off with the 19th OA pick
MTL doesnt really need to move up to get quality in this draft and worst case we can grab Cole Hutson who set to join his brother Quinn in Boston next year to assume Lane's spot likely beside Willander

TBH moving up 6 spots means very little for a 19th OA pick if we we trading up from 19th that'd be different
But who knows , until we see who goes top 5 its hard to predict where players fall as last summers Concensus top 3 Eiserman might not even go top 10 at this point.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 7:21 a.m.
Thread: Bold move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>The 57th pick is not enough to move up 6 spots in the 1st round.</div></div>

Depends on the pick
After the top 10-15 its more of a crapshoot
Its why those picks are most often kept cause they can generate enough value to move them most drafts.
Picks 20-40 there usually isnt a big divide on but this year that expands out into the top 60 as we have players from all systems overachieving and joining this draft class.
Its much like the 2003 draft due to all the defensive quality that goes quite deep and if moving down 6 spots gets me two top 60 picks in this draft i'd do it if im LAK with so many prospects gone after the PLD trade and Turcotte always injured since turning Pro a year too early. This could give LAK some depth pack in the coming years

That said i'd still add Harris or Struble for Turcotte to make you guys feel like you got the better end
For MTL there's value in Turcotte as a Career AHLer if thats his destiny as thats where his dad made his impact in MTL
Without his Dad breaking in all the new guys on the 1986 Cup team that got promoted to the NHL from the AHL , you wouldnt see a cup in MTL
The Legacy of that will sell tickets and put butts in seats giving MTL something their AHL team can build on if Coach Houle can get him healthy with Franky B's help.
But i doubt that LAK are in Panic mode just yet over Turcotte. Once Camp comes and goes with him requiring Waivers they'll feel differently

They could just leverage it to off load PLD though before his NMC kicked in over the next 4/7 remaining years he has left at 8.5m to be slightly more consistent then Gallagher offensively
MTL might take him on without RS despite even in his best year not being worth 8.5m but that would have to be for a top 20 pick this year outright, no exchange
LAK once that NMC kicks in puts themselves in a bad position if PLD hits another Career low which even at 19 entering one the NHL's worst Franchises in history still didnt sink this low. In MTL though in front of his Family and Friends he'll either succeed or he'll be bought out and forever shamed as the cap hit would last forever.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:55 a.m.
Thread: 24-25
Pezz &gt; RHP
1 good season when everyone's injured so you become Suzuki's Trigger man doesnt mean he'll ever do it again let alone improve on it.
Pezz on the other hand you feel his lines presence when he's on the line regardless of who he's playing with.


Hutson takes a back seat to no one
He'd only have signed and passed up the the chance for him , Cole and Quinn to all play together next year in BOS if he was assured he'd be playing top 4 minutes and on his side. He's a LD in a system log jammed in the NHL and AHL with LD so you better believe it was a priority when he signed early despite being on a Stacked team with tons of Brother combinations. Two Frozen Four Finals and you gotta think a 3rd year going back with a LD stacked with Hutson Brothers and a RD stacked with McCarthy Brothers with Gallagher-Willander between them thats a beyond stacked D core with every pair bringing offensive ,defensive ,physicality and skill with a balance of speed and Size. He couldnt have asked for a better situation and he left it to play in MTL

Hughes has built a Reputation on his Word
I doubt he lets MSL sacrifice that without firing him outright
We fired Ducharme for less after extending him after a SCF run
If MSL tried to put baby in a corner he'd be bounced so fast his head would spin
Hutson will likely play beside Guhle or Xhekaj as he almost always took advantage of physical shot blockers grinding players down so Hutson could get a step on them and break away. I suppose Kovacevic would be the best option short term but long term until Reinbachers ready its either Guhle or Xhekaj IMO

Really though you're overlooking Mailloux , Reinbacher and Engstrom will like Struble be pushing for Roster Spots.
MSL nor Hughes just sent Struble down either despite the ability to do so. MSL kept a Crowded Dcore IMO to force Veterans out by keeping the influx of youth on our Dcore as needing addressed. Reinbacher is a Defensive Anchor in Laval , not sure we can actually hold him down after 2 years Pro Experience between here and Laval coupled with being Physically ready.Mailloux wont let MTL overlook him, he's got a chip on his shoulder and a desire to overachieve to prove he belongs here.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:28 a.m.
Thread: UFA vet
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dca919</b></div><div>You know that all the Canadian markets except Toronto are on a player's NTC list if they have 10 teams listed and the only reason they don't list Toronto is because they know they don't have the cap room to trade for them).....</div></div>

There's a difference between an opinion and a bigoted lie
I heard this about Tyler Toffoli never wanting to leave USA after living there so long
He's played on 3 Canadian Teams Since and wrote a Article called "Born to be a Habs"

Tyler Bertuzzi literally everyone said this about signed in Toronto which is why you had to amend your previous statements of no one wants to play in Canada from years past to the lamest cop out ever

TBH the main people i heard doing what you said are Goalies born in America like Gibson, Miller and Brodeur as they didnt have to.
Most often Non Playoff teams are ruled out and given from like 2010-2020 only 2 Teams of the 7 were consistent playoff teams and 1-2 were Wildcard hopefuls often missing. In those years some guys did block the Non Playoff teams its Newtons 3rd law of Motion at work and people who understand it dont rely on Prejudice assumptions .


Any Argument you can lie about , i can point out why its a lie
Newtons 3rd law Defines everything from Gravity to Life
Every Action has an equal and opposite reaction took people out of the dark age's
It provided a path to stability where a thing like Individual Rights could be achieved.
So when you Lie and Spread hate then refuse to back it up its seem a Harmful to everyone around you, including yourself.
Dont be that Guy
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 11:14 p.m.
Thread: Canesnot Necas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>You think that Harris, Stuble or the third will ever be a top-4 defender?!? Really?!?!?</div></div>

Not that i agree with Value
But Given Romanov was drafted and developed by us im pretty confident in saying Romanov has more potential but less upside.
Plus Romanov in many regards has declined since leaving MTL in most regards with exception to 8-9 points a season more

Struble is set to finish ahead of Romanov's rookie year here in most every regard
Like Romanov he can lay the Boom and he does all this while being able to thrive on LD or RD as he's only been in LD heavy systems making him adapt to get minutes.
Harris is a good #4-5 D but not undisputed Top 4 Dman while Struble you could continue to improve upon Romanov's career totals in MTL

Again value on this trade is off and i certainly dont want another Dman in if im moving one out
That said i'd take struble over Romanov
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 10:57 p.m.
Thread: hronek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>westcoasthabslifer</b></div><div>I’m not super worried about Kovacevic/Harris/struble and I think a few will probably be traded. I’m mostly concerned about Hughes’ relationship with Matheson and screwing over Guhle because of it. So if he’s insistent on keeping Matheson I’d rather they just trade Guhle this summer for some good assets (hopefully a vet RHD or some high end prospects/pick).

We could end up with:

Matheson - vet RHD
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux/Engstrom</div></div>

Well of course he is, its his former Client
But the Goal was always putting him in the best place to succeeed
Once one of these guys is capable of 25+ a night whether Hughes likes him or not MSL will reduce his minutes and play

Its just from a business POV next TDL to the TDL after is your window on Matheson to get a maximum return.
To me i'd say next TDL would be the smarter call if you're looking for Draft Capital in bulk or at the Draft for Quality
IF you want more of a player for player deal thats a summer time thing or after camp when teams have trouble with Waiver depth

Plus we kinda Forgot about Sobloev the Alexi Emelin on both Nick Suzuki's Memorial Cup Run and Florian Xhekaj's Playoff run this year.
He's 21 i believe now and physically more then ready to play his role at the NHL Level Blocking Shots and laying Predatory but legal Grey Area Hits
I have no doubt he'll catch someones eye at camp for the same reason Pezz did and Xhekaj did as he punches above his Weight Class

Matheson if im Hughes has to be moved to a place he's going to succeed which makes it harder in a lot of cases to find a fit
But with so many D pending UFA's it create's possibilities after July 1st that arent there today
I dont think its that he's unwilling to move him just that he's trying to maximize his return on Petry to turn MB greatest Burden into a trade tree the eclipses MB best.
Its the type of statement move that defines a career early on
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 6:10 p.m.
Thread: hronek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>westcoasthabslifer</b></div><div>I would love to get rid of our veterans I just don’t believe that management does.</div></div>

Even Big Game Dave was surprised he survived the TDL and said Hughes was very open about it.
That said Kovacevic it doesnt appear he really talked too much with either cause their wasnt a market or he see's Slafkovsky's and Xhekaj's Best Friend as the right mentor.
Matheson i think he'll move but he'll wait til the final year and RS if its what is required to get a 1st plus a valuable Prospect as is his style

Im more Worried the fact he coached Harris and Struble as kids and they mentored his and MSL sons in NCAA years later will have an impact on us being willing to move them.
Harris cant grow in this system at this point even if we removed all the Vet's it would simply save Struble not him.
Strubles like 14 games from requiring Waivers and is a bottom pair special teams Dman or at best #4-5 D like Alzner was before he left WSH and his life fell apart

Decisions have to be made though as Engstrom is Wirey and while he listens to Coaches overall very well when it comes to slowing down , enjoying the ride and living his life outside hockey/training he ignores them. It got to the point they locked him out of the Training Facilities i believe it was last fall? Dude never stops training and shows up before the staff 6-7am and leaves last. If he does that for Coach Houle in Laval he'll rise quickly as Houle is that "you earn your minutes" Coach who was about to send Mailloux to the AHL before Xhekaj saved his season.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 6:01 p.m.
Thread: Habs 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>It's still not worth giving up Raymond. Who at this point is pretty much untouchable!</div></div>

Agreed and i wouldnt say otherwise Raymond is a solid player

but you keep saying "LHD" as if you dont grasp the concept that players with a strong enough Back band pass/shot coupled with the Hockey IQ to not put yourself in a position to be boarded trying to get to your forehand to make a play like most do cause their back hands weak. To me that is a selling feature not a deterrent. Guhle is a Dman who can play top pair on either side without looking out of place at all. Name me 10 NHL D all time who did that consistently

Morgan Reilly playing better offensively on his off side aka RD happens for 1 reasons
Its uncommon for a Goalie or D to have to cover those shooting lanes as people dont often play their off side with offensive success and while staying healthy.
To be able to use this to your advantage as a coach dressing him on either LD or RD knowing consistency wont drop is a bonus not a negative.

You're acting like we're giving you Harris who has like maybe a dozen games playing his offside and got hurt last time he did.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 5:53 p.m.
Thread: hronek
Here and requires Waivers
Matheson
Savard
Kovacevic
Harris
Struble in like 14 games?

Players that dont require Waivers but have a year or a less then a years worth of games.

Guhle
Barron
Xhekaj

Players in the NHL or AHL now succeeding or Joining this year

Mailloux
Hutson
Reinbacher
Engstrom who's waiting in the SHL Finals for his opponent after a 4 game sweep in the ECF. Regardless of the Finish he said he'll join Laval on their Playoff Run

Players set to join us in 2 seasons +

Kostenko who after a decent KHL outing as a 19 year old he went to their AHL league version and became a top 10 D in that league .
Konyuskov is a 22 year old Captain of a KHL team playing 22+ minutes a night and became a consistently offensive player especially on special teams.

We need rid of our Veterans TBH
Xhekaj-Mailloux was a hell of a pairing in Laval , i expect that will continue in the NHL
Maybe keep Kovacevic around and re-sign him cheap to help Guhle and Xhekaj lead the team
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 5:42 p.m.
Thread: Habs 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BobbyPSC</b></div><div>I don’t disagree, I see him as chip to get a very good top 6 forward (which we may not have in the system). I like your point even and appreciate how well he performed on the right side.

If we draft someone like Sam Dickinson this year, we may have a true number 1 LHD.</div></div>

We wont draft a D this early this year for 1 reason
We cant take any D who will be turning Pro in the next 2 upcoming seasons.
We're full all the way down the ECHL right now as Reibachers here , Hutsons here, Engstroms finishing up his SHL Finals after Sweeping the last team and waiting to see who their opponent is.
Thats not including 21 year old Captain Konyuskov who will be joining us in 2 years time with whomever we draft this year
Given Engstroms done all this as a left handed RD at Junior , SHL ,Champions League , WJC and WC it safe to say he's a RD at every level so far which works as he has size and never stops skating

Hughes did something Rare
When he came in he waited before moving out MB Pieces
He let his choices compete directly beside MB and is taking the best from either regardless .
He's also increasing Value on MB Picks like Harris and Struble who Hughes actually coached and they in turn played Mentor to his Son when he turned Pro in the NCAA years later.
Those were guys most people said wouldnt sign with MTL either as harris was a Pending UFA who had an out and chose to star during a time MTL just fired everyone and direction was uncertain.

Tij Iginla being taken 5-10 spots early is a better option then drafting a D
I say that wanting 6'7 Mobile D Silayev as he fits our Timeline if not our needs and his rights are indefinite
But that said Lindstrom,Eiserman,Iginla, and Catton arent guys you pass on and if Demidov falls that low you pounce on him
What you dont do is waste a top 5 pick in a draft where the top 5 ranked D overall has no concensus with Dickinson being #1 and #5 ranked D on peoples lists
But the same is said for Silayev and even Levushunov and Parekh among others. Yammerchuk or whatever his name is , he's the only consistent one ranked by most everyone 10th -12th OA and #5 or 6 D overall in the draft. Last time this happened was 2003 in what most call the most stacked Draft of all time where HOFers are found in the 1st round as often as in the 2nd round and #245 Dustin Byfluglien finished 4th Best D in the re-draft ahead of #9 in Dion Phaneuf

This year we'll see a lot of Quality D as it seems like Every League world wide has contributions of note for once.
Russia even has multiple top 3 round picks options at multiple levels in multiple systems for the first time in really a decade TBH

Far as True #1D lets remember #7 Ryan Suter taken by NSH before #49 Shea Weber who took a year longer
But it was still Weber not Suter who was chosen as the True #1 D and Suter left because of it for a team where he was
Only for them to buy him out after he proved he was more of a #2 or 3 guy after all and not a True #1 guy.

TBH its more likely Reinbacher becomes that guy then Dickinson because he'll Anchor Hutson and be the Glue for MTL for years
That Said Xhekaj-Mailloux's Chemistry as a top 5 D in the AHL who's team went 12-3-2 in their time together after Xhekaj stopped a 7 game losing streak after joining.
Mailloux thought he was an Alpha then Xhekaj went down and suddenly Mailloux's struggles ended in the first 2 games really.
Given their success as 200ft players eating up 22-23 minutes in Laval i'd suspect they'll also play a factor here.

Reality is MTL doesnt ultimately NEED a true #1 right now as Matheson eating up Minutes has negatively impacted a lot of our young D.
Ideally we need to move out our true #1 and roll a 3 pair rotation until 1/6 D step up and stand out.
To many young guns get held down playing behind #1 D who can average 25 but play up to 30-32 minutes some games.
Really though i think because of that depth and because of Reinbacher that Hutson has a real shot at it and if not Reinbacher will.
It all depends as Hutson with Willander was Defense First and a playmaker as Willander had skills on par with his giving options.
But Hutson with Physical McCarthy Brothers or Ty Gallagher was all out offense which we saw a burst of when Pandolfo put Willander with 6'7 Cade Weber in the Division Playoffs
After that Gavin McCarthy i believe it was became the mainstay with Hutson the rest of the year who went from not expected to break or meet last years numbers to surpassing them in less time sadly

D Development is all about timing and giving them Minutes.
Matheson for example never really got those minutes anywhere else
In MTL there was little choice being the most injured NHL Team in terms of man games lost since 2017
So Matheson had 25+ minutes thrust upon him and struggled at first then found consistency and over 2 years showed growth
Harris is going to be our Matheson because we dont invest minutes in him and deny him growth as he's no longer Waiver Exempt so sending him down isnt an option
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 5:05 p.m.
Thread: Utah 2425
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Can't see Pat Verbeek doing that and if he had an inkling, I think that both Fowler and Gibson would refuse to waive their NTCs. But the Keller package might get him to ask them.</div></div>

I dunno man Salt Lake City is pretty Sweet Actually
Given how VGK competed right out the gate
Pro's arent as afraid to join those types of teams

Target Family Men as Utah is Safe, Educated and isnt Crime Riddled as a top 5 Safest Ranked States in the USA.
They arent a Sanctuary State but they also lean Center instead of Right Wing which means they welcome those who contribute and want to be there.
Those who dont go to other states

If im in California on a rebuild team raising a Family i beg ANA to get this done knowing that long term they're not in ANA plans and this would be the best situation they'd get offered for years if ever. Some people are mad about Utah over others like Houston or Quebec who's Ownership Groups switched gears and bought OTT and CAR respectively . Utah hadnt sold out its ownership group like the first 2 patiently waiting for ARZ to fail again and the NHL to approve Relocation. I remember at first going "who wants to live in a Mormon state, i bet its dumb". Then i started hearing more about it in the Seattle Expansion era when they were bidding on that teams spot. I realized its just Religious in General but not to a Right or Left Wing Degree. That because their Profits Story is so hilariously childish that they avoid Judging others religious beliefs. Instead the focus on peoples actions.

Wont lie 10 years ago if you asked if i'd live in Utah i'd say you couldnt pay me enough.
Now though its looking like the most appealing or one of
Now if Fowler or Gibson thought they could retire in ANA or Re-sign with Term im sure they stay put
Seeing how Montour , Lindholm and Manson among others have all done since leaving
I think Fowler could could do Produce as Many Quality Defensmen for Salt Lake City as he has for ANA over the years.
Really he's the only one who's helped produce more NHL Top 4 Dmen 2000-now

Gibson has helped Create a few solid Goalies himself and Hrabal is 6'7 Czech Goalie started 75% of his teams starts this year as a Rookie with really good results.
His Transition to the North American style has been seamless to many including my surprise. He'll likely spend another year in NCAA or AHL while ARZ NHL team relocates.
If Friedmans right ARZ owners could be retaining the AHL club and signing an affiliation deal with SLC until they get their own in place

If im Fowler and Gibson knowing im going to a good situation i do my best to help them acquire Keller on the way out.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 4:37 p.m.
Thread: Habs 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>A simple look at Detroit's roster and you'd see <strong><em>Detroit doesn't need any more LHDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</em></strong>

Detroit wouldn't even trade Raymond for Caufield.</div></div>

You dont need any D but thats another conversation
What i wanted to point out is Matheson-Guhle is our top pair most of the year
Savard went out Months blocking 3 shots in a row and gave Guhle basically the first half of the year there
Matheson doesnt get to 60 points IMO if any other Dman in our system players Mathesons RD.
We've seen it the last 2 years that Matheson doesnt play well with others a lot of the time.
He needs a guy capable of handling a lot of 2v1 and 3v1 when he turns over the puck or blows entries.

Guhle for that reason will be here long after Mathesons Traded
Guhle is everything we need him to be at such an early age where he's just Reacting .
Give him space to lead with Matheson and Savard gone , it'll be like with Suter and Weber left NSH leading to the rise of Josi, Ellis and Ekholm
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 4:31 p.m.
Thread: Habs 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gavinray</b></div><div>I doubt it. The 1st isn't this year although its a good pick next year. Not too interested in a waiver pickup dman, an undersized winger with only decent production in junior at 20 years old.
Maybe Newhook + 1st?</div></div>

O thank god someone to make people realize MTL and OTT arent trade partners on something like this
We picked over Chychrun in the draft after BUF chose Alex Nylander outta no where over Sergachev , he fell into MTL's laps but he wasnt our guy
Chychrun speaks some French , had 3 interviews and both sides were acting like this was basically a done deal.
After MTL skipped him triggering a free fall outside the top 10 for him he came up in tears acting like a jaded ex
TBH i get he wanted to play for MTL but crying because MTL picked Sergachev over you is a bit telling of his Character and just look at the difference in their careers despite being marketed as equals

MTL trade for a DMAN is like OTT trading for a top line Center, it undermines your entire systems set up
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 4:20 p.m.
Thread: Marner to SEA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ggha777</b></div><div>Doubt Marner would waive</div></div>

Depends on where too
Make a deal for him to go to DET right now
I think he's be alright with it given they're on the start of their upswing after a Rebuild.
While TML's best years are behind this youth core who've grown into Veteran Core.

If TML can get 2 pieces NHL Ready who exceed Marners Contributions then trading to a rival isnt the end of the world.
I'd say MTL or OTT but they have no need of a Marner right now as a pending UFA after next year.
DET has a couple guys who couldnt make the jump to 2nd C where Marner could give them their scariest top 6 since the 1990s
TML has top 6 C covered so having a Lowry type in Rasmussen a 6'6 3rd line Center who's about to be 25 and fits their timeline
Veleno would likely be the 2nd piece added in as no D that TML wants that DET is willing to give up.



Not that you have to be a French Speaking Center who is viewed as an underdog goes over huge in MTL and for the right price they'd likely give up the most NHL ready oriented Package.
I'd suggest flipping Veleno to MTL for a Struble or Harris who got similar value but both are younger with more flexibility with both RD capable but Struble's built for it playing 2/3 years in NCAA on Harris's RD actually. Ideally we'd package them both in the deal to TOR so they'd include 6'6 Cade Webber in the mix who fits Lavals needs perfectly . Given Webber's style and our Coaches Defense First ,Last and Always approach to the game that makes Claude Julien look like an Offensive Dynamo by proxy. Coach Houle is all about Minutes being earned but giving him 6'6 Webber to joined 6'4 Bisson,6'3 Reinbacher as well as Mailloux with Barron at 6'2 being the smallest will only help Coach Houle build a playoff Contender again and Dobes/ Kaskisu in net will benefit too im sure .

That said it doesnt have to be and TBH you could get more Draft Capital in a deal elsewhere but you wont get NHL Depth that will be or is ready for the NHL.
I guess it depends on the Goal and what you want back in return for Marner whether it be NHL Vet, NHL Prospect/Youth Core piece or Just Picks
Or if its a mixture of all 3 then a 3 way trade likely makes the most sense.

Marner though wont just waive his NMC unless it makes sense for him and his Family.
So shipping him off to SEA to lose as their GM is on a Downward Spiral ,likely isnt on his Bucket List
But close to home in DET where there can be a deal carved out that benefits TML without them needing to take on Cap Back , it makes sense.
But outside that i dont see many teams who need him that make sense for him.
I mean Potentially Brokering a 3 way Deal would be the most likely way to get prospects you want south of the boarder though
Like some Players like Gibson are set in not playing outside USA full time , There's players like Marner in a Position to assure they dont have to.
They're Rare for sure but Getting drafted by your Home Provinces Team 4th OA and becoming the player he has as one of the faces of TML Franchise isnt common.
It took Tavares a decade to get home and live the Dream Marner has always known.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGSun. at 6:50 a.m.
Thread: Playoffs contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NewDG</b></div><div>Ok what would be your offer then ? Necas had 71 points last year, he is 25 and hits his prime.</div></div>

Max Domi had 70+ too once, still dont want him
Necas is a good fit for CAR but head to head with Caufield saw CC with better numbers after turning Pro at the same age.
Necas is good in the same way Pacioretty was and though i loved the old Captain while he was here , i wouldnt trade for him had he been drafted by CAR.

Why?
I'd rather invest in what we got
Now that Top line is set MSL can focus on Newhook, Dach,Roy and soon Florian Xhekaj
Mesar, Beck,Davidson,Kapanen and whomever we draft top 5 will likely be ready in the next year or two to play Pro hockey at the AHL level at least.

IF anything i'd rather try to sign Monahan to a 1-2 year deal at whatever cap up to 6m for 1 year and 4.5m for 2
He helped so many of our youth the last 2 seasons and who wouldnt want a chance to get a 3rd first round pick of a Monahan Trade
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 6:42 a.m.
Thread: Mathesons a stud and moves his NTC
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SMH</b></div><div>I'm glad that you can agree that Matheson is a stud, and therefore he won't be traded for anything less than a blue-chip prospect (even knies isn't one)</div></div>

He'll be traded at the TDL with a year left giving MTL the most leverage for a return
But no it wont be a blue chip piece unless its like a Pacioretty deal where we take back a contract

To EDM for Ceci , Holloway and two 2nd's unless MTL RS seems most likely if we were taking back a player.
Then again a 3 way trade could offer better results or talk to LAK about a Kalyev based deal could work and he fits our Coaches style of play

Lots of deals out there that dont mess us up but CGY and FLA trades where we help them hurts us.