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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:07 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:37 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LIRIK</b></div><div>A) Gorton and Hughes are both GMs, but since it's MTL, the 'official' GM has to speak french. Gorton is president of hockey operations, but he's involved in every trades.

B) It doesn't prove he will do it again, but it shows he prefer to secure a player now instead of risking losing him on UFA market.

C) FLO 2023 1st is worth more than the 2019 20th, but Pionk was a better D than Barron. PLD will have a better career than the 11th overall, he's a 1C even better than Suzuki.

D) Trouba fell behind Adam Fox on their roster, but he's still a good defenseman. As for Dubois, i think he would love to play for MTL and would be our 1C for years.</div></div>


A) https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/team/hockey-operations

Gorton literally isnt a GM. Kent technically oesnt even report to him he reports to Molson.

B) Again thats not his decision to make. He has said multiple time Hughes has final say on personnel. Gorton is in charge of the business side of the job.

C) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8hKAyWXEAU1ZjT?format=jpg&amp;name=large

He wasnt. Also he was older at that point that Barron is now. Barron is worth more today than Pionk was worth then.

PLD isnt better than Suzuki that is laughable. PLD has terrible defensive metrics by most analysis he shouldnt be playing centre he so bad at it.

D) If he wants to play for the habs so bad he can wait a year and sign as a free agent and he will never be 1C for the habs while suzuki is around.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:53 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 2:08 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 3:07 p.m.
Thread: PLD Rumor
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Let's see if we can find some common ground, yeah?

If he agreed to sign in Winnipeg the absolute lowest amount he signs for is 8 x 8, agreed? So 64 million. Let's say he signs for 1 year at 6M again next offseason in order to open himself up to a signing by the Habs in 2024. Here are the possible scenarios that can happen:

1) He plays the entire season replicating/beating his career best production and signs in Montreal or elsewhere on a 7 year deal at fair market value

2) He plays the entire season but his production drops 20 points back to his 2021 totals. Now he's a UFA as a 0.75 PPG center and he gets closer to second line money by Montreal or other

3) He plays part of the season and has a season ending injury keeping him out for months and possibly requiring surgery (Just like Guhle, Slafkovsky, Caufield this season). Now he needs a new contract but he's maybe getting 1-3 years because no GM wants to lose his job signing a guy he's not sure about and it's a lot worse than Caufield because he's at least signing with the same team who was able to do all the medical evaluations before and after the surgery. So in this scenario he maybe gets 3 x 7 and probably not in Montreal anyway.

4) He has a career-ending injury. Achilles tendon, Concussion, major back or hip issue, neck/spine, eye issue. Now he can basically begin interviewing at the News networks and hopefully get a job at BPM before it implodes.

So as it turns out, you are right. I DO need to check my Math! 64 Million - 6 Million: He's betting 58 Million on the fact that he stays healthy just so he can get low-balled by the Habs. Makes perfect sense for the most respected agent in the NHL to let him do that for the 2nd consecutive season!</div></div>

1) he would get way more than 8 million

2) he would still get 8 million easily. Cap will be jumping and thats what a fringe 1st liner at his age on the ufa market would get.

3. He has 0 injury history so even a season long injury wont be a deterrent.

4. This point is just stupid because you literally can flip it to why should the habs mortgage the future for him to potentially have a career ending injury game 1 next season. It COULD happen.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 12:56 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:46 a.m.
Thread: PLD Rumor
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Wanting to be a Hab and willing to risk losing 20-40 million dollars to be a Habs are 2 seperate things. He could want whatever but there is no chance he does not sign a big multi-year deal this offseason, be it with the Habs or some other organization. If the Habs want him they will need to pay the price to acquire his Wright's and the price to acquire his services.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Wanting to be a Hab and willing to risk losing 20-40 million dollars to be a Habs are 2 seperate things. He could want whatever but there is no chance he does not sign a big multi-year deal this offseason, be it with the Habs or some other organization. If the Habs want him they will need to pay the price to acquire his Wright's and the price to acquire his services.</div></div>

You might want to check you math there. His QO is 6 million. The comparable YOU gave is Fiala who got 7.875 million long term. Even if he gets more than that he would be giving up at most 3ish million dollars over a career earnings of more than 80 million dollars. 1 year to free agency and a 7 year deal then is the same term as a 8 year deal this offseason.

And you are also blatantly ignoring that the 2024 offseason is when the cap jump happens. The likelyhood of getting a bigger aav deal when the market is flush with cap is way higher then than this offseason.

The logic of him not being willing to wait another year to sign a long term deal when he literally did that this offseason lacks merit.