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Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 2:21 pm
Thread: WHO WILL SCORE 40 NEXT YEAR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>Skinner was carried so much by Eichel, he'll hit 30 probably, Guentzel won't hit 40 again (coming from a pens fan) but again he should easily hit 30-35+, Atkinson won't either, Crosby won't, he's turning into a pure playmaker, Malkin just isn't good enough and doesn't have good enough linemates to anymore, Stamkos might fall, Pavelski won't hit 40, Tkachuk probably won't Seguin and Hertl probably won't, Lee and WK won't, so that leaves 18 out of your list that I think could/will hit 40, say injuries stay similar, that's 14 40 G scorers, I could see it</div></div>

Outside of his rookie season, Stamkos has had just 2 seasons where he had a scoring pace of less than 40. That's EIGHT (count 'em) seasons where he was on pace to score 40+. He's the ONLY player to have scored 60 in the past decade. He's 2nd only to Ovi in total goals scored in the past 10 years, and 51 up on 3rd place Tavares - despite having played 84 fewer games!

Outside of injury, it looks like Stamkos is the 2nd most likely player to make this list.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 2:03 pm
Thread: Patrik Laine is confident hell playing somewhere next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barbs</b></div><div>Alright so there's a few things to clarify here.

13 players scored 40+ goals last year. 8 the year before (including Laine) and only 3 players the year before that.

So as a three year average (only going as far back as his career) of 8 players per season who actually accomplish scoring 40+ goals.

If we're going to look at it based on pace as opposed to grand totals like your argued, Laine would have 2 40+ goal pace seasons in his 3 year NHL career (seems elite no?). Laine has scored at a pace of 40-44 goals per season his first 2 years and had an abysmal season where he *only* put up 30. Under the right circumstances (no injuries and career shooting % seasons) anyone you mentioned above could crack 40. Difference between him and most of those players listed is that he is expected to do it next season and every season thereafter because he usually does.</div></div>

This is very different than saying <strong>"There's like maybe 10 players in the league who can legitimately hit 40 goals in a single season."</strong> I guess that's your way of admitting your original statement was incorrect...
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:36 pm
Thread: Patrik Laine is confident hell playing somewhere next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Big_Euge</b></div><div>A lot of players are a threat to score 40 goals? Maybe but very few actually do, and Laine has. He had a terrible season last year and still collected 30 grapes. A few maybe's is not enough for a player like Laine.</div></div>

See my post above.

40 goals in a single season has been done 123 times in the past 20 years - and that's not counting the 6 guys that were on pace for 40+ in the lockout shortened 12-13 season. And of course no hockey was played at all in the 05-06 season.

<a href="http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&amp;seasonFrom=19992000&amp;seasonTo=20182019&amp;gameType=2&amp;filter=goals,gte,40&amp;sort=goals" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&amp;seasonFrom=19992000&amp;seasonTo=20182019&amp;gameType=2&amp;filter=goals,gte,40&amp;sort=goals</a>
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:28 pm
Thread: Patrik Laine is confident hell playing somewhere next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barbs</b></div><div>There's like maybe 10 players in the league who can legitimately hit 40 goals in a single season. This one is 21 years old and can be acquired for *looks at proposal again* decent prospect, 2nd line veteran and a handful of maybes? Try again</div></div>

Thirteen players got to 40 last year:

Ovechkin
Draisaitl
Tavares
Stamkos
P. Kane
McDavid
Point
Atkinson
DeBrincat
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Skinner
Guentzal

Several more would have if they had played 82 games:

Arvidsson (34 in 58 gp)
Pastrnak (38 in 66)
Matthews (37 in 68)
Pavelski (38 in 75)

That's 17 and we still haven't got to Laine. Here are some others that could legitimately hit 40:

Marchand (36, 34, 39 and 37 in the past 4 seasons)
Crosby (40+ twice in his career, 35 last year)
Tkachuk (34 as a 20/21-year-old)
Tarasenko (33, 33, 39, 40 and 37 in the past 5 seasons)
Seguin (33, 40, 26, 33, 37 and 37 in the past 6 seasons)
Forsberg (36 goal pace last year)
Hertl (37 goal pace last year)
Lee (scored 40 in 17-18)
Scheifele (scored 38 last year)
Karlsson (scored 43 in 17-18)
Malkin (scored 42 in 17-18, broken 40 3x in his career)
Hall (scored 39 in 17-18)

That's 12 more for 29. And it's not inconceivable for guys like Pacioretty, Kessel and Benn to hit the 40 mark either - all have come close in the past. And I've probably missed a few, too. What about young players who could hit the mark for the first time? Names like Pettersson, Dubois, B. Tkachuk, A. Svechnikov, Connor, Rantanen and Larkin come to mind. That's like 40 guys with a shot at scoring 40 next year. It's not really that rare.