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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:16 p.m.
Thread: Ranking first overall picks since 2000
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Taz</b></div><div>I feel this debate the same as prime years of Carey Price.
Price did put amazing numbers year after year, but he was behind such a poor team that the only thing he could do was not giving much goals but losing anyways. He never played with a forward scoring 80pts in his entire career lol. And still, most people would tell he was not in the discussion for best goalie cuz he did not win cup, only two deep playoff runs, etc.

Back to McDavid/Crosby discussion. It's very very hard to rank them, and however it's done there will always be people mad about it. They both have amazing careers. McDavid has higher pure offense skills as Crosby, there is no debate about it. What makes me rank Crosby higher is his entire career team accomplishments (I don't feel champions pens had a way much better team as actual oilers roster). Also, it's been 19 streak season Crosby is a PPG, 15 playoff years on 19, 17 seasons in positive +/-. These numbers may not be impressive when you look at them year by year (less impressive than McDavid's) but it's really amazing consistency. If Connor keeps putting these numbers after 19 years, he'll be above Crosby.</div></div>

That's fair, I can see why you would rank them that way. I simply took exception to the comments that McDavid lacked compete level and that he wasn't a playoff performer. Both are radically false.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:28 p.m.
Thread: Ranking first overall picks since 2000
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>I think "best" is a subjective term here, best should be who positions you to win the most games. McDavid is not a one man machine, and from hockey pundits to vegas, no one thinks of Edmonton as an empty threat team.

If you think McDavid could retire today and still be considered the best player drafted over the last 25 years, I'd agree on skill, not just yet on compete level.

I believe compete level is proven by playoff performance, I don't think it's crazy to say if McDavid doesn't get a cup appearance for his career he is not considered the best player drafted over the last 25 years.

I also think it's myopic to say the only reason the Oilers haven't won a cup is because of management. The Oilers have one of the strongest top-6 in the entire league, they have solid defense, and really just weak at goaltending, but several recent cup winners have overcome those odds. Vegas, hockey pundits, and most fans wouldn't be surprised to see the OIlers make the cup final, so I don't think we can just say "bad GM. on any other team McDavid would win a cup"</div></div>
Playoff scoring since 2022: <a href="https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&amp;seasonFrom=20212022&amp;seasonTo=20232024&amp;gameType=3&amp;sort=points,goals,assists&amp;page=0&amp;pageSize=50" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&amp;seasonFrom=20212022&amp;seasonTo=20232024&amp;gameType=3&amp;sort=points,goals,assists&amp;page=0&amp;pageSize=50</a>

McDavid lacks "compete level"? He's not a playoff performer?

Sure, bud.
Forum: NHL SigningsWed. at 4:35 p.m.
Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Joshua Norris (8 Years / $7,950,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>A bridge is a greater risk.

The Senators are not a cap team. His 7.95M cap hit is irrelevant until that changes.

His salary the first 3 years is 5, 6.5, 9.5. That is likely the same as what he would have gotten on a bridge deal (5.75 AAV if 2 years, 7M AAV if 3 years).

No signing bonuses, and he is under 26 for another 2 seasons. If he takes a huge step back, the Senators can buy him out and only pay a penalty of 1M per season.

Escrow is likely to be repaid by the time a bridge deal would end. The cap could be up to 90 million or higher by then. It might quickly approach 100 million. Because the cap is going to shoot up around the same time a bridge would be up, if they bridge him and he turns out to be even a solid 2C, they aren't getting him for much cheaper than an 8M AAV. Maybe they get him for 6.5 or 7 million if he is really unspectacular. If they bridge him and he delivers similar results to last year, he'll make them pay a lot more than 8 million under a rising cap. He will also have leverage to get signing bonuses and a NMC. That's a very important consideration.

At the end of the day, this is not a home run. It is not the Batherson contract. It is perfectly acceptable market value for a young star C. It is better than the alternative of bridging him, and risking that he delivers at a time when the cap is projected to go much higher.

This coming from someone who predicted that they bridge him.</div></div>
Well, here we are, 2 years later. Think they buy him out?
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 11:40 a.m.
Thread: My Hopes for Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>LOL… it’s still hilarious that you think Ceci is a top 4. He’s not.

There’s a reason why he was bought out in Ottawa. There’s a reason why Toronto didn’t offer him any kind of extension. You can try to justify it all you want, he still ain’t a top 4 defender.</div></div>
Four NHL teams and 7 NHL coaches over 8 seasons have ALL played him in their top-4. And they're ALL smarter than you and me.

The issue the past couple of years is that Edmonton was playing him on their top pairing - he was getting fed literally top-10 hardest minutes of any defenseman in the league. He's not suited to that. Now, however, they have him on the 2nd pairing (Ekholm - Bouchard is their 1st pairing) where he is doing just fine.

Every time you comment you show the world how small-minded and biased you are.

Have a great day.