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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 5:11 p.m.
Thread: winnipeg tears it ALL down
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SKWPG</b></div><div>and I've saved my best reaction for last....

EDM / WPG - ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND????? Morrissey is as close to untouchable as a player can be on WPG. He's the last player they trade unless they get something CRAZY back in return. Are you with the Oilers? That's a garbage return for the best WPG JET. Like... GARBAGE. You just got fired and no one ever hires you for anything other than delivering pizza on that trade.</div></div>
On the other side of that coin, Edmonton isn't really interested in Morrissey either. They already have a bunch of LHD under contract for the next few years: Nurse, Ekholm, Kulak and Broberg.

Also, Morrissey has only had one good season offensively and wouldn't get cherry PP minutes in Edmonton.

In short, you'll get a better return elsewhere. We'll take Nino &amp; DeMelo at those prices though.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 4:29 p.m.
Thread: Summer Tweaks cup or bust
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyfan1234</b></div><div>He absolutely is a cap dump. The OP even changed the trade lol. Let’s look at some comparable players.
Brock McGinn had only 9 less points (mostly assists), has the same cap hit and took a 3rd and taking back a contract to get rid of.
Kasperi Kapanen had 6 more points and only 450k more of a cap hit and had to be given away for free for someone to take him. And those were at the trade deadline where players tend to have more value.</div></div>

Warren Foegele scored at a 1st line rate while being paid like a 3rd liner. That's the opposite of a cap dump.

One of the best ways to compare players across the league is in 5v5 play, since it's (a) the most common game state by far and (b) equalizes inputs.

So here's how Foegele stacks up:

G/60: 0.93 (84th, tied with Panarin) 1st line rate
P/60: 2.09 (85th, tied with Tavares) 1st line rate
S/60: 9.36 (50th, tied with Cozens) 1st line rate
xG/60: 1.16 (9th, tied with Tavares) elite 1st line rate
SCF/60: 10.90 (23rd) elite 1st line rate
HDCF/60: 6.19 (8th), elite 1st line rate
Tka/60: 3.63 (3rd), elite 1st line rate
Hits/60: 7.11 (108th tied with Kreider) high 2nd line rate

Now consider that he spent just 8% of his TOI with McDavid this year. Foegele is a value contract.

[A little context for my stats. I took full season 5v5 stats and applied two filters: forwards only and minimun TOI of 495 minutes. That leaves us with the top 385 players by minutes played. Why 385? Because there are 32 teams and each with 12 regular forwards. 32 x 12 = 384, so pretty close. This way we can divide results by "1st line" (top 96 players), "2nd line" (97-192), etc. All stats are expressed as "per 60 minutes" to equalize for TOI differences.]
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 2:37 p.m.
Thread: Personal Opinion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>That's pretty risky considering the somewhat shallow prospect pool though and lack of draft picks. They all had good seasons. Plenty of teams have cap space and opportunity. If they don't sign them then that's not their contract as much as if they do it is. Easiest fix would be not having them up in the NHL as non roster and bringing up the cheaper guy's instead. Yes they'd make more scratched in the NHL then playing in the AHL, but is that what's best for the development of prospects?</div></div>

Every one of them will be qualified. I don't think that's up for debate.

But the QO is just the start of negotiations usually, most players in that situation will accept a different number on a 2 year deal that gives them greater opportunity to play in the NHL. There's no risk of losing any of them.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 1:24 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 1:06 p.m.