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CD282

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Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
Thread: When does Lavoie make it
But I came here to talk Lavoie... I think he's got more work to do regards defensive play and positioning. Don't forget Holland and Tippett like "ripe" prospects. Looking at how Anthony Mantha - Lavoie's closest NHL comp - was developed by Holland might give us a clue:

Mantha at 21: 60 AHL games + 10 NHL games
Mantha at 22: 10 AHL games + 60 NHL games

Lavoie will be 21 in September, I don't expect to see him in an NHL regular season game until after the deadline, and that's only if he has a good season in the AHL. Mantha went 60, 21-24-45 +13 as a 21-year-old, if Lavoie can score a goal every 3 games or better he'll be up for a 9-game cup of coffee next March.

FWIW, here's both players at 20:

Mantha in AHL: 62, 15-18-33 +5
Lavoie in AHL: 8, 4-3-7 +1
Lavoie in Allsvenskan: 51, 23-22-45 -14
Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
Thread: When does Lavoie make it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Need that 1st for Neal</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Devils would do Neal with a first and retention</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zyyyp</b></div><div>make it the 1st in 2022 and Devils accept</div></div>

LOL, that's ridiculous. Edmonton saves just $960k in this scenario - what does that buy them in free agency? A 4th liner? That's not worth a 2nd, let alone a 1st! You guys are clueless. Edmonton should just buyout Neal and save their 2nd.

No team is going to pay a 1st for NJ to take on $960k x 4. Sorry to burst your bubble.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eberles_Backcheck</b></div><div>For a team to eat 960K?</div></div>

Exactly. But you have $3.5M in cap space - why are you spending a 2nd to clear $960k? Unless it cost a prospect that the org has basically given up on (Marody?), I'd just do the buyout.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 hours ago
Thread: Do not go breaking the bank yet
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RWellington</b></div><div>My solution is to promote from within and IF they can land a higher priced UFA they do it on a 1yr basis.</div></div>

I agree. I wouldn't be sending assets to Seattle to take Koskinen though - he's been very good the past 2 seasons aside from the first 12 games this year when they ran him into the ground due to the Smith injury and Holland repeatedly screwing up the 3rd goalie spot. No goalie can play 12 games in 24 days and come out of the other side looking good. Aside from that though, Koskinen has been just fine.

2019-20: .917 (38 GP)
2020-21: .889 (first 24 days)
2020-21: .925 (since Smith came back)

He's got value to this franchise, but needs to be part of a tandem. He'd be a great partner for Driedger, who has never taken on a "starter's" workload either. I'd split the games evenly to keep both men fresh.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 5:23 pm
Thread: Assets for cap space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RedWing9119</b></div><div>My point was that there are a lot of Edmonton fans on this site who just won't accept the reality of cap space value in the current climate. I agree with you that they will buy him out. I was only commenting on the value of him being traded to my team and the fact that fans of your team won't stop trying. Plenty of recent precedents back up what I'm saying about the perceived value of cap space right now.</div></div>

Cap space is a valuable commodity if you don't have any. Edmonton has plenty this summer, they aren't paying a 1st to get &lt;$2M more. I agree that a team that's tight to the cap and needs to shed a bad contract will have to pay dearly, but that doesn't describe the Oilers going forward.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 10:11 am
Thread: I dont trust Holland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Because Barrie is good.... he is very good with Nurse. In my opinion, that’s a main reason why Nurse is doing this good! The PP is worse, because nobody’s PP is that good multiple years in a row, plus we are only playing Canadian teams, so we wouldn’t be playing a bunch of the bad american teams. Bear is not our best 2-way defence man. Nurse is by far.... he is definitely a 2-way defender! If Klefbom was back, he would be our best 2-way by far! When he’s healthy he’s very good.</div></div>

Nurse was very good before Barrie, he'll be very good after Barrie.

Even just looking at 5v5 scoring, which is the only area of the game where Barrie would impact Nurse positively, and you'll see what I mean:

2017-18 to 2019-20 (3 seasons)
1. Carlson: 100
2. Josi: 99
3. Burns: 95
4. Karlsson: 83
5. Rielly: 83
<strong>6. Barrie: 78</strong>
7. Hedman: 77
<strong>8. Nurse: 77</strong>

This year, with Barrie alongside for most of the season:

1. Carlson: 22
2. Theodore: 20
3. Girard: 20
4. Chabot: 20
<strong>5. Nurse: 19</strong>
6. Chychrun: 19
<strong>7. Barrie: 18</strong>
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 2:31 pm
Thread: Utilize Cap Space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>2021 first for you guys to take Neal, and we got a deal!</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>I did 2022 first to spread out our picks but 2021 first works too</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zyyyp</b></div><div>No thanks. 2022 1st or you can keep him</div></div>

- Neal's buyout results in a $1.9M cap hit
- $1.9M buys a bottom-6 forward
- Bottom-6 forwards aren't worth a 1st
- Edmonton has $26.1M in cap space this summer with a Neal buyout and RFA's signed, they aren't desperate for that $1.9M

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/441028

In short, you aren't getting a 1st to take James Neal. Not this year, not next.