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Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 hours ago
Thread:
ode to deep run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CertifiedAverage</b></div><div>Sure, if they see some value in Dellandrea. I don't know much about him, to be honest, so I just figured a bottom 6 winger in his 20's is not what Columbus need. But I would have said the same about Nylander a year ago, so what do I know?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Viqsi</b></div><div>I frankly don't care overmuch about Dellandrea one way or the other in that proposal.</div></div>
I'd be happy with a 1st straight up, from anyone, just to have Provorov off the team for selfish reasons and be done with it.
I think the Tanev trade is a good metric, and he went for less. Columbus should take this in a heartbeat IMO.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 10:03 p.m.
Thread:
Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Montreal1st</b></div><div>I have heard this, hopefully Jiricek is worthy of the #6 pick...I wish him well and would take a chance even giving up a 5 or 6 pick a few years later to get him. Not that this question diminishes him, but if he shot left instead of right...what would you really think of his game?</div></div>
If I'm honest, his skating and decision making both need to be quicker/better. But that's teachable, the physical tools are all there, and if his offence can translate from the AHL to the NHL, he should be at minimum a top-4 D-man for a very long time.
I'm not as high on him as I was when he was drafted, or after a stellar rookie year in the AHL, but the fact of the matter is: he shoots right, and is the best defensive prospect in the system regardless. He's the only one right now that could fill a massive organizational need, so it doesn't make sense to move him unless we're getting a 1RD of similar or better caliber back to replace him. That's a top-3 pick, or a current young star. Otherwise it's far too early to give up on a 20-year-old who's been great already at every level but the NHL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 7:02 p.m.
Thread:
trade deadline
Just *facepalm*
Ignore the trades. Olivier is on the top line while Sillinger, Voronkov, Chinakhov, and Brindley are healthy scratched. That tells you all you need to know.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 7:00 p.m.
Thread:
Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Montreal1st</b></div><div>Oh, so you can agree that Laine is extremely over-paid, useless outside of PP time and even though big, he has a FRACTION of Anderson's hits. Actual money owed at this point is less for Anderson, Anderson is a power forward and not a "scorer". Few teams have the cap to roll the dice on Laine at this point. I could care less if Montreal gets Laine, it is a huge gamble to get a guy paid 9 million and can only get 15 minutes of ice time in Columbus</div></div>
Anderson vs. Laine isn't even the crux of the argument. Jiricek has 1st-pair potential, and is the only RD in the system like that. If that pick is 6OA, the only RD with similar potential in this draft (Levshunov) is already gone. Honestly I don't think Columbus could trade him for 6OA straight up.
So the rest is Barron and Harris to dump Anderson. Anderson isn't waiving his NTC to go back to Columbus, which given how he left, is definitely one of his 5-8 teams depending on when the trade is proposed. Barron and Harris isn't enough to dump him, they're redundant and not an improvement on the plethora of D we already have.
And then you want us to add Laine, who aside from this year where he was taken out by headhunting and a slewfoot, has been near ppg for Columbus and is a previous 40-goal scorer. On a team with no cap crunch, no desire to move him, and a severe lack of star players.
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but come on...this isn't it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 8:28 p.m.
Thread:
Different Direction
At risk of piling on, I like this direction, but the values are off.
I like the idea of making a move for Brady, but if it doesn't include two of Fantilli, Jiricek, Johnson, and our first this year, it's not even a consideration for Ottawa. We can't get quality without giving up quality. Realistically, I'd give up Johnson and Jiricek, plus potentially a Chinakhov, but that would be contingent on picking ~3rd this year and having a good shot at landing Levshunov. Clears out the logjam of forwards, gets some quality now that fits the timeline, and also keeps a legit shot at a 1RD.
I don't have any interest in Markstrom, though, let Tarasov/Greaves and a UFA signing be the goalie tandem going forward.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 4:22 p.m.
Thread:
rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>i never said anything on the player. I'm just pointing out the value of those two picks, are more close in value than was assumed. That's probably a top 5 pick. CBJ pick is a top 5 pick....
If you think that one drat is better than the other.....
Obviously as stated an actual pick is better than a potential pick. I have said this. but the whole thing is a hypothetical. The CBJ pick you don't know where you are picking yet.
It doesn't have to be as high as you think. And the PIT pick is probably going to be lower than most want to admit. It's a nursing home team being fielded that year with no real prospect of changing that.
You might not even see Crosby on that team by that point. You don't know. What I do know is 38 year old Crosby not going to carry the team on his back in a super human effort like it took this year to not finish 7th or 8th OA like they were headed. If they are that bad now..... how much worse you think it's getting in 2 more years.</div></div>
I personally think Pittsburgh will be a bottom-5 team in the league in 2026, but the CBJ is a <em>guaranteed </em>top-6 pick by nature of finishing 4th-last in the league this year. Even if I think Pittsburgh is last in the league in 2026, the only guarantee is that it's top-3. And I'm certainly not willing to bet a top-6 pick that Pittsburgh is a bottom feeder in two years when Crosby could still be there.
We're just looking at the value of the pick, but I really don't think they're as close as you presume. There's just too many variables that need to go against Pittsburgh to have them fall to where Columbus is right now. Could it be top-3? Sure. But odds are low that it ends up being as high in the draft as Columbus' right now, and the fact that you'd need to wait two years to get it means that it's not close in value.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 3:46 p.m.
Thread:
Habs
Usually KJ to MTL proposals include at least the WPG 1st-round pick, those still quickly get shot down.
2024 MTL 1st, Slaf, Suzuki, or Reinbacher. If one of those isn't included in a deal for KJ, there's no deal. Rightfully, Montreal doesn't entertain that, so there's really no point in discussing it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 3:43 p.m.
Thread:
Who Says No
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodjobbjs</b></div><div>If they develop and wait for a few more seasons, half the guys they have now won't have any value. That's my worry now. Just not enough roles available. They could always add more prospects to something like this. I think they should be willing to trade anybody not named Werenski or Fantilli</div></div>
Which half of the guys won't have any value? Only Gaudreau, Jenner, Gudbranson, Severson and Merzlikins are signed through 2025-26 or later and will be over the age of 28.
If we wait a couple years, Fantilli, Brindley, Sillinger, Johnson, Mateychuk, and Jiricek won't have even hit their prime, they'll be 23 or younger. Texier, Marchenko, Voronkov, Chinakhov will be 26 or younger, just finally hitting their prime. Werenski and Laine will be 28.
I think people forget just how young this team is, 2nd youngest in the league. There really isn't an option other than wait for the next core to develop. Building around Jenner, Gaudreau, etc. isn't it. We tried that this year, and it's clear there isn't enough supporting cast to push for the playoffs yet. It's 100% fine to let the young core develop another couple of years and let Gaudreau, Jenner, and any other vets that stick around take lesser roles on a more competitive team.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Sun. at 3:35 p.m.
Thread:
Idea
CBJ say no, no reason to move Gudbranson until 1) we have a better option on the 3rd pair (Severson, Jiricek, and Boqvist aren't a fit), 2) we have more leadership options, and 3) we're approaching the cap and are fielding a competitive team.
Maybe in 2025-26, but almost certainly not before then.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:45 p.m.
Thread:
rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>I never said the CBJ would consider it.
The claim was they don't have the assets.... well I disagree. That 2026 pick is just as valuable. You can't look at that aging roster and tell me they can win games. It's a nursing home out there on the ice.
teams build to be picking 1st in 2026, not to win a cup.</div></div>
A guaranteed top-6 pick this year is objectively more valuable than a 1st-rounder 2 years from now, full stop. There's nothing to argue. It could turn out great if the Penguins finish dead last and land 1OA in a great draft class. But to guarantee it's at least as valuable as a top-6 pick now, they'd have finish 4th-last or worst, in an equally strong or better draft class just to make up for the 2-year difference, and there's just too many variables for a GM to say "yes, that's likely enough that this pick is equal in value".
But even <em><strong>IF</strong></em> those picks were equal, we're supposed to send one of our most valuable players to a division rival for Graves (who is a borderline cap-dump) and a 3rd? If Dubas made that offer, he'd receive an emphatic "get f***ed" from whoever the next GM is. It's an astoundingly, insultingly, laughably bad offer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 11:57 a.m.
Thread:
Yousketuvastoay MontRoyal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>squashmaple</b></div><div>Go look at this roster’s cap space. There’s only a million of space. He is very much a cap space in the context of this particular roster, and was traded off of it to make room. Cap. Dump.</div></div>
Price is on IR, not LTIR here, so they've got $10+M to work with. Unless I'm reading that wrong, in which case: yes, cap dump.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:23 a.m.
Thread:
rebuild
Jenner + 2024 CBJ 1st for Graves + 2025 PIT 3rd + 2026 PIT 1st + Crosby.
There, I fixed it for you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:20 a.m.
Thread:
interesting
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jacketsman61</b></div><div>I don’t know if I would agree. That 2nd is more like a late 1st. Really it depends on what the trade accomplishes for the Jackets. The Jackets would not be retaining anything on Laine’s contract. That money could be used to secure via FA or trade for a true 1C. Not saying it is great value but could be appealing if their is an ulterior motive.</div></div>
It's an ok return, if the new GM decides it's time to be competitive, he can't trust Laine to stay healthy, and the $8.7M can be used elsewhere.
I'd rather keep him. Next year isn't the year to go for it, so it makes more sense to keep him and hope for a bounceback to either increase his trade value or cement him as a longer-term contributor.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:16 a.m.
Thread:
Yousketuvastoay MontRoyal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>he's not a cap dump</div></div>
I actually agree here, but it's splitting hairs. A cap dump requires the dumping team to be up against the cap. With Price on LTIR, Montreal is still $10+M away from that. Ex: Kampf has more value than Dvorak, but because Toronto is way up against the cap, Kampf is a cap dump.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jacketsman61</b></div><div>Dvorak has underperformed the past few seasons and has been injured a lot. He isn’t worth his cap hit. At this point he would be a cap dump to the CBJ. Maybe not in your view but in the CBJ’s view it would be.</div></div>
He's not a "cap dump", but he's definitely not an asset Columbus is interested in. We might claim him off waivers for free to try him out as veteran depth, but we've got plenty of bottom-sixers. No need to actually pay for more.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 10:59 a.m.
Thread:
What if
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>I haven't seen any reports that's he's franchise player level. Certainly concensua 1OA and will be a star player, but not franchise potential.</div></div>
He's not Bedard/Matthews/McDavid level, but CapFriendly's own scouting lists him as franchise potential. Others they list in that category are Stutzle, Makar, McDavid (duh), MacKinnon (also duh), Quinn Hughes, Crosby, Barkov, Josi, Heiskanen, Hedman, Pettersson, etc.
So it's not really "franchise altering", but it is "franchise cornerstone".
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 10:15 a.m.
Thread:
Utah Fury
I'd accept that for Columbus, although we may look to try and get a 1st for him half-retained. Good value, just depends on where the market is at.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 10:14 a.m.
Thread:
Make Change
Jenner isn't available, per GM, player, and ownership.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 1:45 a.m.
Thread:
What if
Celebrini is projected to be a franchise player. Zegras, Johnson, and Lindstrom are probably elite when it's all said and done, but not franchise cornerstones.
If we get 1OA for the first time in franchise history and<em> trade it</em>, I'm personally moving the team to Arizona.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 1:41 a.m.
Thread:
Joker Laugh
Columbus declines, but Severson and Skinner probably both beat us to it anyway.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:24 p.m.
Thread:
Hawks Creative
The Laine paradox: Columbus doesn't have reason to move him unless you're paying us for the top-line, ppg scorer he should be. No one has a reason to buy on him for anything other than the cost of the injury-prone $8.7M 0.5 ppg player he was last season (it's not reflective of what he actually is, but that is the buyer's perception).
Result: he's not getting moved, unless he specifically asks for a trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:21 p.m.
Thread:
Bringing in some Vet help
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>I doubt it. He's a 3rd pairing D man and he still makes what 4.75 against the cap?</div></div>
2nd-pairing, 32 points on the year, and the only CBJ player to play all 82 games. He's an upgrade on nearly every team's 3rd pair, does lots of stuff well but nothing particularly great. Half-retained would be expected, so 2.375 against the cap for a good 2nd-pair, great 3rd-pair guy.
It's not out of the question that he lands a Tanev-like deal at TDL next season. Similar underlying metrics and similar contracts, but Provorov is younger and more reliable health-wise.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:14 p.m.
Thread:
Buffalo Mercenaries
Someone might throw you a late-rounder for Bryson's rights, but it won't be Columbus. We're set at fringe NHL D-men.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:11 p.m.
Thread:
Bringing in some Vet help
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Canes pass. Provorov sucks. You're likely going to be stuck with him until the end of the deal</div></div>
He's a useful defenseman and UFA next offseason, and cheap if he's half-retained. If it's not the Canes, we'll at least get similar value at TDL 2025 from another contender.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:08 p.m.
Thread:
TML 2025
Basically seconding <a href="/users/Viqsi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Viqsi</a>, on value it's probably close but it's also not really the direction we need to go. Lilly is redundant with Boqvist, who's already the odd-man out. Robertson is redundant with Dumais and Brindley, but with arguably a lower ceiling and an injury history; both would already be hard-pressed to make the NHL roster. Tavares is great, especially if Boone is going the other way...but why not just keep Boone at that point?
Fair effort, creative, but still a lot of obstacles. Columbus politely declines (and Tavares would probably be less polite).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu. at 4:22 p.m.
Thread:
Major Shake Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stripes77</b></div><div>Laine being 25 years old is mind blowing, feels like he should be at least 30 by now. His body is that of a 34 year old though</div></div>
His injuries this year were a concussion from a hit that landed Andersson a suspension, and a broken collarbone off an uncalled slew foot by a sub-NHL player. After that, it was just the PAP. Who knows when he'll come back, but if people played clean hockey this year, there's a chance he played another 50-65 games this season.
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