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Forum: Armchair-GM12 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 5:45 p.m.
Thread: 2425 Leafers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Sure, <a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&amp;thruseason=20232024&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;rate=n&amp;team=TOR&amp;vteam=ALL&amp;view=wowy&amp;loc=B&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=2023-10-10&amp;td=2024-04-18&amp;tgp=2000&amp;strict=incl&amp;p1=8481582&amp;p2=8479318&amp;p3=8478483&amp;p4=8477939&amp;p5=8475166" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">let me know what I'm missing</a> because the actual data suggests that Robertson doesn't play with AM/JT/MM/NY a lot. Of the four, the most he's with is JT at 80 minutes all season and....is worse with him than without? If you want to be obnoxiously specific, Robertson <em>has</em> played with the top four forwards, but based on the TOI it's basically negligible. And even when he's been put with them, it doesn't provide any evidence it's actually boosted his production. Entirely plausible he'd get more goals and assists with them, but that's not what has happened this season which is what you were implying.

We can look at Kurashev next, whose<a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&amp;thruseason=20232024&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;rate=n&amp;team=CHI&amp;vteam=ALL&amp;view=wowy&amp;loc=B&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=2023-10-10&amp;td=2024-04-18&amp;tgp=2000&amp;strict=incl&amp;p1=8480798&amp;p2=8484144&amp;p3=8477450&amp;p4=8474870&amp;p5=8473422" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">most common linemate</a> is Bedard. <a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&amp;thruseason=20232024&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;rate=n&amp;team=CHI&amp;vteam=ALL&amp;view=wowy&amp;loc=B&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=2023-10-10&amp;td=2024-04-18&amp;tgp=2000&amp;strict=incl&amp;p1=8484144&amp;p2=8480798&amp;p3=0&amp;p4=0&amp;p5=0" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Narrowing it down</a>, he's played more with Bedard than with anyone else. The values also imply he's not only been significantly less productive without Bedard than with, they've been pretty bad together in general. Maybe that's just consequence of the Blackhawks overall season. Regardless, he's absolutely been strapped to Bedard this season.

So my original post still stands. The "Leafs player only good because other good players" argument doesn't work with Robertson. Absolutely makes a strong case for 2nd best forward on your team considering he doesn't need to rely on star players to produce and actually has knees. He's absolutely worth more than a 4th or whatever pittance picks he's been getting on this forum.</div></div>

Happy to point out what you are missing. Look at Robertson's point production on the top two lines and you will see that 80% of his point production this season is on the top two lines. He also doesn't have the defensive game Kurashev brings which is what Kurashev is known for. Furthermore, Robertson when he produces is not next to one star on the ice like Kurashev (who outproduces him), but two starts be it Nylander and JT or Matthews and Marner. Kurashev and Bedard play with guys like Joey Anderson who couldn't even make the Leafs squad comparably.

I'm willing to bet hands down 31 GMs in the league would rather have Kurashev with his two way game and rarely injured versus the small fragile Robertson who can't produce without two stars on his line.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 3:43 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 1:14 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:45 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:38 p.m.
Thread: smart adds
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>Great, because the Sabres should not be trading him at all.
He is playing well for us &amp; we have <strong>plenty</strong> of Cap room
So there’s really no reason we’d wanna move him!

Cozens42
All of these Skinner trades in which either the Sabres include assets (as this one) or they trade him for less than future considerations have no basis in reality.
Hertl was traded for a prospect chosen 32nd in last year's draft and this years first round pick which will be also very late.
Tomas has three additional years remaining on his contract than Jeff.
Over the last three years Tomas has played in 209 games scoring 65 goals with 162 pts while accumulating a <strong>-71 rating</strong>.
While, Jeff is 18 months older but over the past three years has played in 216 games with <strong>88</strong> goals and 185 pts while accumulating a <strong>ZERO +/-</strong>.
Other than the length of contracts the contracts are essentially identical.
It is unlikely Jeff will be moved due his NTC, but he is far from a cap dump and his return if he accepted a trade should be more commensurate with the Hertl return than this trade.

Well, that is my penny and half for the week.
Fire away, hit me with your best shot!</div></div>

Skinner is one dimensional, Hertl is not one dimensional, plays fast and 200 ft and creates plays, he's not just shooter. They are hands down completely different players in what they bring to the ice and Hertl without question is more valuable to any team.

+/- rating is also about the worst way to evaluate a foward as well, not sure why you would use that
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11 at 12:26 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10 at 4:52 p.m.
Thread: smart adds