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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2021 at 5:32 p.m.
Thread: Trying To Fit In A Center
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wildwinswhen</b></div><div>Yeah, I agree. I think if we're going to fit in Eichel we have to let Fiala go. We're not going to trade Dumba now and go from 4 top D down to 2 top D in one off-season.</div></div>

Absolutely. There is no way to keep Fiala if Eichel is here. Bill can't bank on the salary cap increasing by much in years 2-4 of the buyouts. If Fiala isn't included in the Eichel trade, then another trade would have to be made for a cheap young player or futures.

Dumba is here to stay...for now. I agree there is no way they go into next season without four top-6 defensemen from last season (Dumba, Suter, Cole, Soucy). They will have to address the situation again because he only has two years left until unrestricted free agency and will command a raise. They might not be able to afford him.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
Thread: Finding A Centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>I'd agree that the best possible trade target to go after if he's available is Hertl. Couturier won't be available, even if they're headed for a rebuild, gotta think he's untouchable. Monahan would be my secondary target, but I'll get to him more in just a bit.

The best UFA target for me is Danault. He would make for a really good 1-2 punch with JEE and give Rossi time to develop. But it would be important to get him on a shorter 2-3 contract as opposed to anything longer. RNH would be both too pricey and isn't really a center anymore, he's a winger.

Eichel would cost too much and wouldn't be worth it because it would take an absolute overpay to get him out of Buffalo. I'm honestly over trying to acquire him anymore. Ditto that for Barkov, who would absolutely be worth it in my mind, but won't be available anyway. Barkov is literally my wet dream of getting an elite 1C though, so there's that.

Kings are a nice thought, but we don't really have anything they would want in return.

You're on the right track with Philly though, I would move Dumba after the ED for Morgan Frost and Philly's 2022 1st. Frost has top six center potential and is near NHL ready.

I've kinda come around on the thought of trading for Monahan for 2 reasons.

1) He's young, and fits right in line with the young core of players we already have. He'll also likely be cheaper than anything else on the market, given that his value is in a complete and utter freefall right now.

Calgary is very likely to be heading for a rebuild after this season, and given that we'd have assets they'd want. Might be more open to taking less for Monahan so long as they make up the difference in prospects or draft capital.

2) The Flames GM already offered Monahan 1v1 for Dumba, and Guerin said no. This gives us a massive head start on other trades because we already have a firm grasp of where value is measured for the player. We know that his value has gone <em>down</em> since then. He can be had for less now, and far more easily than say Hertl for roughly at or around the same price point but with less competition for said player which means there'll be less chance of a bidding war breaking out on us.

There are obvious concerns about his compete level and defensive deficiencies compared to Hertl as well.
Or that he's less productive when not on a line with Johnny Hockey. All of these are valid points and concerns.

But I'm not fully convinced that we should just write him off as a option.

2a) Team Culture

It's kinda a **** show in Calgary right now, the Culture isn't bad by any means but it's stagnant, and I wouldn't be surprised if Monahan just needs a change of scenery in order to excel again.

We've all seen what Guerin has done for the Wild locker room and how things have changed so drastically within it, and this to me is the kind of environment Monahan needs to come to in order to turn things around.

2b) Byproduct of Johnny Hockey

We have two gamebreakers of our own now. Put him on a line with either Fiala or Kaprizov and he'll be fine.

2c) Defensive Deficiencies

We have more than enough defensive two-way forwards to stick on a line with him to cover that fact. We also happen to have a top 5 defense in the league, now coupled with solid goaltending. We and he will be fine if he comes here.

I would currently offer this for Monahan...

Rask
Khovanov
Either 2021 1st (PIT or MIN) OR 2022 2nd(MIN)</div></div>

How long did it take you to type this? Lol
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 7, 2021 at 3:54 p.m.
Thread: Finding A Centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drmantalban</b></div><div>That's pretty much exactly what my thoughts were too. I'd imagine Philly would probably start the conversation with Rossi or Boldy, which I wouldn't be open to for Couts. He's a heck of a player, so others may disagree, but that's just where I stand. If you could somehow package like Khus, Beckman, Mennell or Khovanov + Greener/Dumba, I'd be into it.

I don't know if the general agreement is that Philly should do a rebuild or try to re-tool on the fly. If it's the latter, I think Couts would be pretty costly. If it's the former, you might be able to sneak by with a good bundle of picks + prospects and maybe some immediate value going back.

Idk I think he's an interesting option for BG to call on.</div></div>

Matt Boldy and Marco Rossi are also non-starters for me as well, but I would be willing to listen on just about any other prospect in the Wild system.

Another point to remember: Chuck Fletcher has yet to make a real change on the Flyers roster. The only significant move I can come up with that he has made was signing Kevin Hayes. Almost all of the other players on the roster were Ron Hextall guys. He is not emotionally invested in these players like he would if he had drafted and developed them himself. It would be smart for Bill Guerin to check in.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 7, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
Thread: Finding A Centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drmantalban</b></div><div>What do people think it would take to pry Couturier from Philly? I assume way too much, but he is a pending UFA after next year and Philly seems to be entering somewhat of a rebuild. He'd be a monster get for the Wild and having him and Jeek as 1/2 Centers would be awesome, since they actually play a similar game (albeit Coots has much higher scoring prowess).

Any residuals from the Fletcher era that we may be able to take advantage of and dangle to him as part of a package?</div></div>

I certainly wouldn’t mind checking in on Couturier. They could be looking to move some of their core pieces after a disappointing season. In terms of residuals from the Chuck Fletcher regime, I know he always liked Dumba, Greenway, and Eriksson Ek. Eriksson Ek is a non-starter for me, but I would be willing to listen on the other two if it meant getting Couturier.

What do you think?
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 7, 2021 at 12:28 a.m.
Thread: Finding A Centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>No, I was proposing we add one or the other. Menell or the 2nd. Not both. Whichever one San Jose would prefer.


As far as Belpedio goes, I'm far less convinced of that. To be blunt, that's more or less why Menell left for the KHL this season. It's still not a forgone conclusion he'll comeback yet. Yes, I understand that both sides said there was interest but that entirely depends on how both the expansion draft and off-season goes. Menell might still be blocked as well when it's all said and done and may choose to sign elsewhere.

Guerin at that point might just as well do him a solid and trade his rights to another team where he'd have a better chance of making an NHL roster, Ala Donato.

As it stands, Belpedio honestly has a better chance of making our roster at this point then Menell does. But that's just my opinion of course.</div></div>

I don’t know what your opinion is when it comes to the other potential centres available, but personally, I think Hertl would be the best for what the Wild could afford to give up.

While I would love to see Jack Eichel and Aleksander Barkov on this team, the cost would be way too much. Other Wild fans have thrown out the name Sean Monahan, but I’m just not a huge fan of his. He plays next to a tremendous player in Johnny Gaudreau and he always leaves me wanting more.

If not Hertl, I wouldn’t mind Guerin checking in with LA though on one of their many Centre prospects.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6, 2021 at 11:55 p.m.
Thread: Finding A Centre
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>As you said, we would need to have assurances that Hertl would re-sign with us. Possibly as a sign-and-trade with an agreed upon extension in place beforehand.

Irregardless of that, he'll cost more than what your offering. Even with the single year left, your still trading for a legitimate Top Six Center. That's going to cost ya pieces you might not be willing to cough up otherwise.

Menell is a #4 type defenseman and is expendable by virtue of having both Addison, who is better overall anyway, and Belpedio.... likewise another 4-6 type defenseman. Furthermore they're more or less blocked by Dumba as it is.

We can afford the loss. Ditto the 2nd.

Both would be fair additions to the proposed trade already offered and even out the trade value.</div></div>

So would your proposal be Rask, Beckman, Menell, a first and a second? The Wild better be sure about Hertl to be giving up that much. The reason I targeted Hertl was because he would be more realistic to acquire than Aleksander Barkov or Jack Eichel.

Also, Belpedio will not be in the organization next year. It is so obvious he will be blocked if he stays and his agent should look elsewhere.