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Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 3:41 a.m.
Thread: Not realistic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs3416</b></div><div>Please share why you think this, instead of just criticizing, saying because we don't want Engvall doesn't work. Sometimes it's nice to have some back and forth conversations with people on here to see what peoples thoughts are on things. I am all for adding something else or switching things up.</div></div>
Kudos to you for wanting to have real dialogue. As others have said, based on the title, I thought you knew these were unrealistic and were just spamming the board with "square peg in round hole” scenarios that the Leafs fanbase has a bit of a bad reputation for doing.

With that said, Detroit and Toronto are really not trade partners, under any scenario to be honest. What the Leafs are selling, Detroit isn't buying and it seems unlikely that Toronto is willing to pay the rate for what Detroit would be willing to trade. Engvall (along with Holl and Kerfoot) have been attempted on this board at an almost comical rate to Detroit and there is just zero fit. We have players on the roster and in the system we would rather play, so they're not fits here, at all.

As for the Carolina trade, I don't see why they would give up multiple assets for a player that the Leafs want gone and you even admit is viewed as a cap dump by many. The is no leverage for the Leafs there. Realistically, Toronto would be lucky to get a 3rd alone for Kerfoot and even that is unlikely.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 2:24 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:06 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 20 at 5:07 p.m.
Thread: Some realistic Horvat base offers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>I'd say that's a fair offer. The '24 pick is a late one (we're making the playoffs next year, 100%) and Rasmussen isn't nearly as good as some think he is. I just don't know if Horvat is the right player to go after since we'd be tying up a lot of cap in the top-3 centres and we have Kasper on the way. Also it might be easier to just sign him as an UFA.</div></div>
I never said it wasn't fair, just that Yzerman isn't trading firsts, so it kinda makes value irrelevant. Yzerman doesn't really make bold statements unless he means them. He was pretty firm that he wouldn't be trading 1st round picks in the next couple years and drafting and developing was the model.

I also don't love the idea of tying up that much cap with Raymond and Seider a couple years away from extensions and the pending payday for Larkin and Bertuzzi. Now, if we move Bertuzzi, that changes things, but I still think he's going to be extended.

Even then, roll the dice on Horvat going to FA and sign him then for the price of a contract without giving up any assets.