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Forum: NHLNov 1 at 3:20
Thread: Why Doesn't WPG Just Put Byfuglien on LTIR? Or Can't They?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>He retired, so they cant ltir him because he retired. his contract doesnt exist. but if he chose to come back... he would count against their books. Its an odd situation. I think they could officially move him to LTIR if this surgery is directly related to hockey injuries as well as another factor in if the team ends up paying for the surgery to be done then they could 100% put him on ltir. I think both things need to happen for him to be IR eligible. they have the cap space to go get someone but his contract similar to gronkowski's in football is just taken off the books until he shows up. they still hold his rights and when he shows up the contract would kick in again. until something between him and the team happens they cant do anything with his contract.</div></div>

He didn't retire, he's suspended.
Forum: NHLOct 14 at 11:36
Thread: Is Kirby Dach eligible to play in the AHL?
I believe that conditioning assignments can only last a certain period of time (two weeks I want to say?) and there has to be some kind of injury to the player for it to take place. Dach was injured during training camp, so he qualifies for this assignment. It kind of is a loophole, and it can work to the Blackhawks' advantage, as it gives them a look at how Dach performs at a higher level of competition than he would see in the WHL. But then again, it's not like they can keep him down there all season.

Not really the same situation, but I do know that players that require waivers can actually bypass waivers when they're sent to the AHL on conditioning assignments. So there are some loopholes when it comes to this rule, but there are some safeguards to prevent abuse of it.

Edit: Here's the rule (13.8) from the CBA:
Conditioning Loan. Unless a Player consents, he shall not be Loaned on a Conditioning
Loan to a minor league club. Such Conditioning Loan shall not extend for more than fourteen
(14) consecutive days. The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to
investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a Conditioning Loan. If the
Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the Conditioning Loan
to evade Waivers, or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such
disciplinary action against the Club, as he deems appropriate. The Player shall continue, during
the period of such Conditioning Loan, to receive the same Paragraph 1 NHL Salary, and be
entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.
Forum: NHLSep 23 at 3:55
Thread: Thought experiment - Why is it ok to overpay UFA's but not RFA's?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Yeah I get the economics of it. I just feel that it may be an outdated ideology that is slowly changing from the looks of it.

Simply because the players have less rights, the team feels they must automatically use this leverage to bring down a players value even though they know they're worth it. Then through the media and down to the fans, the idea becomes that the player is greedy rather than the GM's having an unfair advantage.

UFA - Players use the market to their advantage to bring up their value.
RFA - Players use their production to get what they'd deserve.

<strong>So if an RFA is trying to be compensated based on their production and a UFA is using open market and multiple teams to drive up their value, wouldn't it be proactive to pay the RFA and refrain from paying the UFA?</strong></div></div>

An issue that a lot of teams have is that they end up with positional needs on their NHL roster that need to be addressed (whether it's due to losing players to free agency, retirement, etc.) and the easiest way to do that is through the UFA market. It'd be cheaper to fill these holes with prospects and undrafted players from overseas, however a lot of these players are unknown quantities on NHL ice. General managers are generally pretty risk-averse and UFAs have easily verifiable NHL track records, which makes them safer bets for general managers, at least in the first couple years of the deal.