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May 29, 2015
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fran615</b></div><div>How things have changed since you wrote that post hahahaha
Wow. Price. Now I am losing sleep. Dude, WTF is going on ???????
Price, Weber, Danault, Drouin, all unprotected: WTF!</div></div>
Im still not worried. Frankly Im even more ecstatic then before.....
Seattle isn't taking Price but if for some reason they want to be bold and do, that's still a win for the Habs.
Seattle takes Price, Habs now have 10.5M to replace him and are out from under that contract which in years 3-4-5 when Price will be in his late 30's will look bad.
Seattle doesn't take Price, then nothing changes for the Habs. They keep all their goalies and lose a player that they can easily replace. Byron, Kulak, Drouin , etc.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>In the past few days, we have seen many posts deleted and many users complaining about legitimate ACGMs getting deleted.
Many appear to be newsy types of posts (ie, this guy re-signed, that guy unprotected, etc). Many of these are useful and informative and it is hard to see what they were deleted.
Would any of the moderators help us understand what the recent changes may have been that lead to so many ACGMs getting deleted?
Also, we should able to see who deleted the post and why.</div></div>
Its very simple. its not following the rules and frankly the rules are so easy to follow that not following them is showing exactly why these posts need to be removed.
CF asks you right before you submit:
Does your team meet these requirements?
-Name and description relate to this Armchair-GM roster below
-This team is not being published for unrelated general discussion that is more suitable in a different forum section <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
-Abides by the forum rules - https://www.capfriendly.com/forum-rules</strong>
The AGM section is not a "Twitter" feed where you can just post the first thought that comes into your head. Want to post Twitter hockey news? Go to Twitter! But if you still feel inclined to post to CF, then post it to the proper forum section at the very least! That is not asking for much.
There needs to be a minimum requirement of effort in order for the AGM section to not just end up being a cesspool of random hockey posts everytime a little hockey news comes out. There needs to be<em> some</em> order to all this. Considering how easy it is to follow the rules there should be no slack given. All you have to do is actually create a FULL team and then your not breaking the rules anymore but posting an AGM simply to say "MONTREAL IS NOT PROTECTING PRICE" with no effort given to making the team, is not going to fly.
There is a section in the forums for any hockey related post you can think of. Post those news related posts there. Where they belong and anyone complaining of the visibility of those posts only has themselves to blame by not going there more often. Want the forum section to be more "popular"? Start making them more prominent by going there to post news related threads and engaging in conversations there. The reason those forums aren't used more is because people don't feel the need to use them because they can just post whatever they want to the AGM section, but posting any and everything to the AGM section is not the solution.
Now with that all said, the moderators do not make up the rules. They simply enforce them. If you want things changed there is nothing stopping you from posting in the "suggestion megathread" section of the forums or by emailing the guys at contact<a href="/users/capfriendly" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@capfriendly</a>.com and asking them to make a change. If they change the rules, the mods will change what they delete.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>I don't think you fully follow my point. The idea of moving say at most the 31st overall pick to ensure that Seattle takes say Byron instead of Allen is more than just keeping a backup (mind you he's actually one of the best backups in the league). If you allow them to take Allen, you're losing $2.875M off the cap for 2 seasons and likely have to spend $2M + on a quality backup to replace him. So you're only gaining $875K in cap space, plus you're likely to overspend on a UFA as most teams do. Where as if you pay say the 31st overall pick (just an example on the high end) to have Seattle ensure they select Byron instead, it gives you more cap flexibility and roster flexibility - in this situation, you lose Byron's $3.4M cap hit for 2 seasons outright, and you can replace him with a guy on a league minimum deal or a ELC contract so even at most of an ELC at $925K to fill that spot of Byron, you're still gaining $2.475M in cap space which will help sign key RFA's like Kotkaniemi, Lehkonen, etc. and now you don't have to go out and overspend on a backup goalie in free agency. Along with that, as I said Montreal's farm system is pretty decent, not too strong but has some good pieces, so a top pick could be expendable when you remember that IF they moved the 31st overall pick, they still have the 63rd and 64th overall picks in the draft and generally the talent level between the 31st and 63-64th pick isn't the biggest either.
Would the 31st overall pick be slightly high to have Seattle pick a different player? Yeah you could argue that but I find it extremely odd how you're saying that offering the 2nds is "ludicrous" when they're both the immediate picks before the 3rd round, so they have essentially the same value as a 3rd round pick. I could very well see the deal being something like Seattle takes Byron and is compensated with the 63rd pick and a mediocre level prospect in return (maybe a Jan Mysak or Gianni Fairbrother type guy). It gives Seattle a good veteran that has proven leadership and a recent good playoff performer as well as a couple lower valued younger assets, and gives Montreal cap relief as well as a piece of mind in net.</div></div>
If you think trading a 1st, even a late first to keep the backup goalie, then i dont know what to tell you. That to me is terrible asset management. But you do you boo.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fran615</b></div><div>I mean, with Weber unprotected and flirting with retirement, with Tatar walking, it really does seem that Allen will be SEA's choice. I mean, even if they're going to trade him afterwards, Allen has the highest value. Especially with a team friendly cap hit.
As far as losing sleep over it, I disagree. JAllen has been the best 2nd goalie for the Habs in the past 10 years almost hehe! Not even close. Calm, confident, solid, winning his games. He did the job. MBergevin will be disappointed in the outcome, but I do think it's over for Allen.
The other thing I'd do if I was Bergevin would be to TRY - and I want to stress TRY - to throw a 2nd round pick and a prospect for SEA to have them pick somebody other than Allen. Prospect could be Ylonen for instance. To which SEA would decline very, very quickly. And so we're back in a dead end.
Yeah, Allen's gone. Might as well keep all picks and just deal with it afterwards. Teams that have negotiated with VGK in 2017 have mostly looked ridiculous in hindsight.</div></div>
I think you may have misunderstood me. Me not losing sleep over it isn't because I think Allen isn't good or valuable. On the contrary. Im not losing any sleep over it because replacing him will not be hard to do. Lost of great options available. Lots of teams willing to trade goalies for picks and Habs have tons of picks.
Allen was really good this year for the Habs but he's not the only good goalie out there. Thats why im not worried.