Jan 29, 2018
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>This is asinine. If the cost of moving okposo is more than a 2nd- he can make 6 million a year on the 4th line, sitting in the press box, or riding the bus in the ahl. If we had a late first i would listen, but we dont and in no way is a 7oa from 4 months ago the compensation for taking okposo. I dont see the sabres going for hall, i dont think they should be looking at top shelf rentals, and paying for an extended hall is a double whammy because you pay a premium to get him, then you pay for whatever extension he agrees to. If a cost controlled 7 or 8oa like mittelstadt or cozens is being included and we further may have to move reinhart to have the cap make sense, im totally out.</div></div>
Yeah it is a steep price, but my thoughts behind it was you can use the cap spaced freed up by trading Okposo to re-sign Hall and not just have dead-cap space. It is pretty much Skinner 2.0 but more expensive.
As a Devils fan just trying to maximize Hall's value and alone with Backes in BOS and Alzner in MTL, Okposo contract is up their with the worst that are still moveable, unlike Suter's and Parise's.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>I dont mind the trade to much, though Samuelsson and Cozens is a bit much. Okposo isnt that bad that im desperate to move him. Bogo's contract is expiring and hes currently LTIRd. You'd have to pick something other than Cozens. NJ isnt dealing from a position of power too, pretty much everyone knows Hall is on the block and teams only have to compete with each other to give their best offer, rather than meet NJ's demands</div></div>
I added Bogosian, since with Hall and Simmonds I think it would have put BUF over the cap if Bogosian came off the LTIR.
Also, I agree, dealing Cozens and Samuelsson is a huge gamble/ a lot as both could turn into great players. But they way I was looking at it, I am a Devils fan by the way, is that it puts BUF into a more of a contender this season, but would most likely shorten their window overall.
The trade is basically NJ giving up on the next 2-3 years and BUF going all in for the next 3-4 years with Eichel, Hall, Skinner, Ristolainen, Reinhart, and Dahlin.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>hall isn't signing an extension just because you traded him. What a ridiculous thought.
And no, he's not worth more. The second he chooses to even test the FA market all that so called value disappears.
He's worth a 1st and a b prospect.
Go look at what Stone was traded for, and he signed an extension!
You NJ fans sound as desperate as Ottawa fans last year.
You won't get anything near what you want for him.</div></div>
Karlsson, Pacioretty, Skinner, and Kane signed after being traded and didn't become UFAs, plus Stone signed one before. That is the main point for any team trying to trade for Taylor Hall, not to just have him as a rental but to sign him long term. Does that guarantee that Hall will sign with any team he gets traded to? No, but you are devaluing Hall a little, in my opinion. I think a 1st and a B-prospect is close but I can only assume their will be conditions like if he resigns their would be a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st, or if he resigns and the team makes the playoffs more is sent to the Devils.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div> I'd love to get your opinion on a Zacha trade I just posted? <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/267358&post_id=1067604">https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/267358&post_id=1067604</a></div></div>
Personally I don't want the Devils to trade Zacha. I see Zacha as a perfect replacement for Zajac in the near future; center with some size, defensive acumen, can play a shutdown role, PK, and a great 3C behind Hughes and Hischier. Also I am hoping that Zacha gets a chance at LW with Hughes, maybe on the PP, as I think Hughes/ Zacha could be a great line with their mix of size, speed, and offensive/ defensive abilities.
Djoos is not bad, but the only trade I would include Zacha in right now would be for a proven top 2 LHD-man, even if the Devils had to add.
Also I do think Zacha will sign, but it might be late like Wood last year.