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Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 12:32 p.m.
Thread: Need your thoughts - MTL NYI TBL CAR BOS NSH OTT Fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Dont just reply with a lie that you refuse to back up that Contradicts Managements Direction since Marc Bergavin was Fired.
If you are Unable to hold up your side of the Democratic Debate then say so, dont just lie based on nothing .
Anyone who listened to Hughes Speak ever knows what you're saying isnt true.
He's highlighted 2 straight drafts by trading for players like this on the cheap and has said he'll continue to make moves like that.

I get it , you loved Marc Bergavin but he's in LAK now
Hughes has been the complete opposite with a buy low , sell high Mantra.

Plus he deals with Kaliyevs Agent for multiple Habs</div></div>

Kent Hughes said he wants a team based on speed &amp; talent (and bigger). Kaliyev as skating issues, I don’t think in MTL management look at Kaliyev and says : yep, he might upgrade his skating. Like why is Armia still training a piano then ? He has the chance to improve it and never did ? Stop replying, IMO I don’t think he is a possible target for MTL, you think they do. FAIR ENOUGH, I respect your opinion
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 12:28 p.m.
Thread: Kent Hughes Realistic 2024 Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>Based on trade value charts, the deal seems fair - #18OA for #26OA &amp; #78OA works out to a slight overpay on the Shuckers' chart and a slight underpay DomtheAthletic's chart (I will -never- remember how to spell that last name.) Adding Struble makes this deal a win for the Isles in a vacuum.

But since we're not in a vacuum and we have to look at each team's needs, I think the Islanders decline. They have LD1 &amp; LD2 set, so Struble is at best a 6th/7th D on this team - not a position that you would want to really target, especially when you have a pending UFA on your roster who has proven to be a good fit in that spot, and who probably won't cost much more than Struble's cap hit next year. Add in the fact that nearly every major publication ranks the Islanders' farm system in the bottom 5 of the league, with not a ton of NHL-projected talent in the pipeline, and I'd say I'd rather go ahead and keep the higher value pick and get a player more likely to be an impactful NHL player.</div></div>

A lot would depend if the Islanders want ‘X’ player at 18th but he goes before 18th, maybe their next players on their list are around 25ish, so they could do while getting a young LHD + 78th (for another prospect). Anyway, I took the Islanders but it could be another team, I think MTL have the assets to move up in the draft to select the guy they want (Beckett Sennecke)
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 9:24 p.m.
Thread: GYFHG
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>I DO. I have Matheson &amp; Hutson. Matheson is getting BETTER each year, not worse. I'm re-signing Matheson all day in 2 years, unless one of the other guys pops.

You can't play everyone, some guys will have to move.</div></div>

Matheson wasn't better this season than the last one. He was brutal defensively, but hey he put up 60 points so that means he was better, right ? Right ? He got a ton of points on the PP, that's means he's a good QB, right ? Right ? NO, he is a bad QB on the PP, can't make a pass on the tape, he was brutal defensively and he can't hit the net. When his contract expires, he will be 32 yo. He will be looking for a long terms deals and he will steal the QB position on the PP from Hutson (because he is a vet). Hutson-Reinbacher Guhle-Barron/Mailloux should be MTL top 4 in 2 years
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 9:12 p.m.
Thread: GYFHG
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>I would argue Reinbacher &amp; Mailloux have the potential to be top pair guys as well. Also, maybe Konyushkov. Maybe Engstrom. It's hard to know.

We have a lot of defenders. Guhle is ahead of everyone right now, but that doesn't mean he can't be traded. The fact that there are so many guys behind him makes him the ideal player to trade.

Dach and Newhook are good players. I hope they can become core guys, but they aren't yet and when you look at the forwards in the system who are not yet core players:

Dach, Newhook, Roy, Beck, F. Xhekaj, Mesar, Tuch, Farrell, Kidney... There's not a ton of reason to believe that 4 core forwards will emerge from that bunch. We need to add an infusion of talent to that group in a big way.</div></div>

................................... Dude ... omg ... my eyes are bleeding
I was talking about left handed defenseman. Xhekaj Harris Struble are bottom pairing dman. Engstrom we will see, might have top 4 potential but let's see how he looks in Laval next year
Dach &amp; Newhook are core players, like Suzuki Caufield Slafkovsky Guhle and Reinbacher. Those are the guys you will see in a Habs uniform in the next decade
You can't trade Guhle because you don't have LHD prospect with his potential or higher. Trading Guhle creates a whole on the blueline in two years
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 5:57 p.m.
Thread: Need your thoughts - MTL NYI TBL CAR BOS NSH OTT Fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>6'2 and 209lbs thats not his game
Not saying it cant be added as Suzuki was Slow as Molasses when we got him
He trained 2 summers with London Knights with a Speed Skating Coach the Hunters employ for their Junior players in the summer.
Marner and Suzuki were there the summer before he joined MTL full time

Its not impossible to add that to Kaliyev's game as his Speed isnt bad he just takes time to build up momentum
I'd be far more interested in having him play that Physical game he avoids right now.
If we did bring him in i'd tell him up front whether or not he's extended depends on whether or not he's improved significantly in his skating or his Physical game.
TBH at his size and given our need i'd much rather a Physical Goal Scorer then a Speedy Goal Scorer.

Plus his advanced Stats are ahead of basically everyone but Suzuki in MTL right now.
His Defensive Play is vastly underrated and on par with the stats Danault holds

I dunno this is buy low on the 1st pick in the 2nd round of the 2019 Draft Hughes loves plucking talent from.
If he was 190lbs or something like that i would have no interest but at 209lbs he's got muscled packed on and a good solid foundation to build on
He has 2 glaring weaknesses we could address. I mean if MSL can make Slaf a 20 goal and 50 point scorer after the start he had to his sophomore season
Then working with Kaliyev shouldnt be that big of an issue.

If it works out imagine where we'll be ?
If it doesnt we just dont re-sign him
Either way what we're giving up is gonna be lost anyways
LAK lost a few players they liked for nothing in Anderson-Dolan and Bjornfot former 1st and 2nd round picks
Thats after having to sell low on Grans and Durzi because their log jam got too out of control

Same will be said of Harris and Struble as better players enter our crowded Dcore in NHL and AHL levels
Even if Kaliyev gamble fails we have a great chance of him succeeding then any 3rd round pick and a B Prospect that Harris will command today as is.

https://hockeyroyalty.com/2024/03/22/la-kings-the-curious-case-of-arthur-kaliyev/</div></div>

Not reading all this
I don't think MTL management consider Kaliyev as part of the puzzle
Forum: NHL SigningsSat. at 2:44 p.m.
Thread: Montreal Canadiens signed Adam Engström (3 Years / $950,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ste_Catherine_Street</b></div><div>Well I'm assuming you meant to put the LD depth on that list. So going with that...there will be changes next season. This is my depth at LD
NHL:
Matheson
Guhle (move him to LD where he belongs)
Hutson
Xhekaj

AHL:
Strubble
Engstrom

Harris and/or Barron will be moved before Game#1.
I can't remember if Strubble has to clear waivers, but I javelin him in AHL. If he has to clear than he'll stay up until he's traded too to make room for others.</div></div>

Struble is waivers exempt until 2026-2027 unless he plays 17 more NHL games (likely)
But I agree, he should start in Laval to keep him waivers exempt
He would be the first call up in case of injuries

But I don't think they will trade two defenseman this offseason
You need players in case of injuries and Savard &amp; Kovacevic deals expires after next season
You could find a dcore like this in 2025-2026

Matheson-Guhle
Hutson-Reinbacher
Xhekaj-Mailloux
Struble-Barron
(going 8th dman for the next 2 years)
I do think one of Struble or Harris will be traded before the start of the 2025-2026 season
Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 6:09 p.m.
Thread: Need your thoughts - MTL NYI TBL CAR BOS NSH OTT Fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Based on What Factual Statement or Logic?
Kaliyev and Savard share Agents and Kent has dealt with him on Ylonen and Stephens deals.
He fits and is from that 2019 Draft Hughes has targeted since arriving

Personally i like Kaliyev and what he brings.
I mean its easy to write him off but lets remember Racist Coach Claude Julien inherited a team with 9 Russian and in 16 months had 0
He took Radulov off the top line putting Gallagher up top and demoted Chucky to 3rd line LW right out the gate replacing them with Canadians
Its not unheard of and if you look at LAK Roster since Jim Hiller was promoted from Assistant to a Coach the LAK leaned harder into North American Players Big Time

Kaliyev isnt some crap player no one likes
He's a 22 year old 4th year Pro who put up 14-15 goals a year before Hiller
Clearly Hiller for him is the issue here even though Hiller brings out the best in others he screws Kaliyev
Easy solution? Trade LAK a North American Player like Harris or someone else in a trade deal either 1 for 1 or in a bundle.</div></div>

He has skating issue
Wouldn’t fit going forward