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Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 8:25 a.m.

Thread: Klingberg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>QualityTrades1</b></div><div>I really like this. Dallas gets a couple noteworthy prospects with a guaranteed 2nd and potential 1st and Carolina gets a 2nd offensive defenseman.

Only problem is you're not playing Pesce on his off-side with how much success he is having defensively over the years.

Slavin - Klingberg
Skjei - Pesce
Cole - DeAngelo
Bear

And don't get me wrong, I like Bear and all but this is Stanley Cup-type depth we're talking about</div></div>

You would play Pesce on his off-hand to ice your best six defensemen. They did this when Faulk was still on the Canes and went all the way to the ECF doing so.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 2:11 p.m.

Thread: Carolina at the Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>No need for him…not true. Canes now have the deepest and most versatile forward group. Going to be tough in a 7 game series. 6.1M for a cheap team hurts for sure.</div></div>

It's also objectively untrue when it comes to the long-term trajectory. Trocheck and Nino are both going to get huge contracts from some team this offseason. Getting Kotkaniemi early to replace one of them is quite a proactive idea, actually, and they weaponized a huge amount of otherwise-empty cap space to pull it off while Bergevin was in a bind of his own making.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16 at 12:37 p.m.

Thread: Klingberg and Holtby Rentals

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Yep that was the gamble. But his QO of 6.1m probably won't happen and he will be a UFA, though I suspect KK owes Carolina some loyalty for his bloated 6.1m deal.</div></div>

The rumor is that the Canes and KK already had agreed to terms on an extension at a far lower cap hit, and they were waiting until January to announce it.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16 at 12:33 p.m.

Thread: Klingberg and Holtby Rentals

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I just wonder if 6.1m could have spend better, on a short term UFA rather than KK...and then safe the picks too.</div></div>

I actually don't know. KK was clearly a long-term bet for Carolina and not a short-term one. They're betting that it's going to pay off later on.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16 at 12:19 p.m.

Thread: Klingberg and Holtby Rentals

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Interesting that a 4th liner 1.25m Engvall gets dumped on by so many on this site, for his 16 points in his last two seasons of 58 games. But 6.1m KK seems to no criticism for his 23 points in 69 games.</div></div>

Because dumping on Engvall is stupid. Again, the KK contract is similar to what Bill Guerin did with Goligoski this year. They had the cap space this year to overpay the two for a year to get them on board.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16 at 11:14 a.m.

Thread: Klingberg and Holtby Rentals

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>I saw something that you can't trade an offersheeted player for a year</div></div>

Only if the offer sheet is matched. This is one where the Habs did not match and traded it for draft picks instead. This contract is free to trade to any team.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16 at 3:00 a.m.

Thread: every teams TDL part 6

Canes actually don't need much. Maybe one more depth defenseman or backup goalie. Braden Holtby might be an interesting add.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 15 at 3:35 a.m.

Thread: Lets Help Jim Benning Out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cooliny</b></div><div>Could we interest you in Demko for Ayres? Demko has been super bad, he let in 7 goals the last 2 games he played:)</div></div>

I honestly feel so bad for Demko, because no goalie can succeed behind that incompetence on a nightly basis. Look what happened to Freddie's play the moment that he stepped behind our defense. Demko deserves better.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 15 at 3:33 a.m.

Thread: Lets Help Jim Benning Out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aasen6</b></div><div>Lol since you’re so generous as to help us out with this we have no choice but to return the favour and take slavin and pesce and give you Myers and OEL.</div></div>

:tearsofjoy

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 15 at 3:26 a.m.

Thread: Lets Help Jim Benning Out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>Garland has been one of our best players. That trade is the only reason we aren't dead last right now. We don't even have to think about this one, it's an easy no.

Seeing the note, the only way to help this team is to change who is the voice in the room. The players have been fine individually. But there's no geling, nothing that suggests chemistry, and our team strategy is terrible. I liked Green in the past, but when your top 6 is playing a checking game, you know he isn't a fit. Vancouver needs a new coach, and we need one now.</div></div>

This trade was satire. I 100% agree with you, BTW. It's just that your favorite team is unfortunately run by a bunch of clowns running around with their heads chopped off. They seem ripe for a pillaging by some elite team with an elite front office. IDK who, but Carolina wouldn't shock me considering what they did to Paul Fenton and Dale Tallon at the end of their respective lines.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 12 at 3:38 p.m.

Thread: 3-4 teams interested in Eric

Staal actually makes a ton of sense this time. I really like Jarvis but I also want that third ELC year to be there when Turbo/Aho/Pesce/Skjei are UFAs. He'd be good in a bench/substitute role during the regular season, and he really was underrated in MTL during the postseason, for the most part.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 6 at 12:34 p.m.

Thread: Probably Not the Ideal Time to Not Have Pesce

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>He always tries stretch passes that fail or clears the puck out and gives the opposition possession and stuff like that.</div></div>

Hey, with only two seasons left on that contract after this year, I'm sure that the Coyotes will take a look at that deal for their Dishonor for Connor campaign.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 6 at 12:10 p.m.

Thread: Probably Not the Ideal Time to Not Have Pesce

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I’ll trade you an an iron man Zaitsev for an injured Pesce.</div></div>

Nice try. :sarcasm

Forum: NHL TradesNov. 4 at 3:46 p.m.

Thread: (NYI/BUF) - Boychuk for future considerations

The Sabres actually needed to make this trade, not the Islanders. They needed a contract in order to not fall below the cap floor if it turns out that they're deadline sellers.

Forum: NHL SigningsNov. 1 at 7:06 p.m.

Thread: New York Rangers signed Adam Fox (7 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Hasn't deangelo been really good?</div></div>

He's been amazing, but he likely wouldn't be a Cane if Fox was here. The Rangers would've IMO been far less likely to treat TDA as a pariah if he was their only reliable offensive source on the blueline.

Forum: NHL SigningsNov. 1 at 6:41 p.m.

Thread: New York Rangers signed Adam Fox (7 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

Darn it. Not because of this contract, but because I wish the Canes had him. I mean, I know our team is 8-0, but maybe we could potentially set the regular season wins record this season with Slavin-Fox as a top pairing, JS...

Slavin-Fox
Skjei-Pesce
Cole-Hakanpaa (probably)

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 28 at 3:39 p.m.

Thread: Loaded to the Gills

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>NSH declines. Carrier and Jeannot have been good fits for the Preds, and none of the players coming back from CAR are of much interest.</div></div>

It's merely a base. The idea is extra assets in exchange for team-friendly contracts that Carolina has far more of a need for than the retooling Predators.

Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 28 at 3:02 p.m.

Thread: Vegas Golden Knights signed Zach Whitecloud (6 Years / $2,750,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Where did you read that I implied that no-income-tax was the exclusive factor in this arrangement?</div></div>

"AAV shows the value of a no-income-tax state."

I never stated that you said that it was the no-income-tax exclusively. What I'm saying is that the tax rates have far less of an impact than CW or even compared to what you said, at least in my opinion. The bigger factor is "the winner's discount".

Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 28 at 2:53 p.m.

Thread: Vegas Golden Knights signed Zach Whitecloud (6 Years / $2,750,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>GREAT contract for a valuable young defenseman. Term is a little longer than I thought the Golden Knights would give, or get. AAV shows the value of a no-income-tax state.</div></div>

This ain't about a no income tax state, at least not really. This is the same winner's discount that teams like the Islanders (Pelech/Pulock/Mayfield), the Canes (Svechnikov), or the Bruins (Hall/Carlo) get. Look at how the Florida Panthers, in a no-income-tax state, used to drastically overpay free agents as recently as 2 years ago...that is, until they started to win. This is the true disparity in the NHL free agency rates.

Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 28 at 2:30 p.m.

Thread: Vegas Golden Knights signed Zach Whitecloud (6 Years / $2,750,000 AAV)

Young and cost-controlled RHDs are worth their weight in gold to teams. Locking up a decently-good one to a rate that Tucker Poolman got in UFA is a pretty solid get. This will be a possible blueprint for the Ethan Bear talks, perhaps, albeit his will likely be a little bit more expensive because he has slightly more offense to his game.

Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 15 at 12:25 p.m.

Thread: Boston Bruins signed Charlie McAvoy (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>So um what happened to Bruins and good contracts lul

Was honestly expecting him to make slightly above Pulock not get a Jones deal lul</div></div>

Except that McAvoy is actually worth a Seth Jones pact. Even if you toss analytics in the toilet, Chahlie Mac will be far younger when his deal expires, meaning that the deal will be throughout his prime defensive years.

Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 15 at 12:18 p.m.

Thread: Boston Bruins signed Charlie McAvoy (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

For folks comparing this to Makar's contract, it's an unfair comparison. This contract buys out WAY more UFA seasons. Makar's deal bought out two UFA years; McAvoy's deal buys out 5 UFA seasons, IIRC. It's a very good contract, especially when you consider that Werenski got more for less years!

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 15 at 2:27 a.m.

Thread: Tony DeAngelo was dead last in EV TOI among defensemen and Carolina still wins

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Being a valuable piece for the power-play is beside the point.

The point I've been trying to make for days is that the Carolina Hurricanes should not put DeAngelo on the top pairing.

Rod the bod agrees with me on that front.

Hardly anybody on this site does as well, which is too bad :(</div></div>

I'm in full agreement with you, actually. For now. Almost all of my lineups have it as Cole-DeAngelo. The big thing that will keep it that way or not is if Ethan Bear pans out as the 5-on-5 guy.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 15 at 1:17 a.m.

Thread: Tony DeAngelo was dead last in EV TOI among defensemen and Carolina still wins

DeAngelo is a valuable piece for the power-play alone. If you have the depth that Carolina has and also had the foresight to acquire Ethan Bear, then you make that move every day of the week.

Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 15 at 1:02 a.m.

Thread: New York Islanders signed Ryan Pulock (8 Years / $6,150,000 AAV)

I hate this "agent must be fired" talk. It's nonsense. If every single player on the Isles roster is taking slightly less to build the deepest possible team, then no one's actually getting "shafted" here.

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