Feb. 25, 2019
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stevierebz</b></div><div>I disagree; in the short term, yes, we need LD. But, in the long term, ie. 2+ years out, we should have Edvinsson, Wallinder, and Johansson manning the Left while after Seider, there’s only Hronek and Lindstrom. I’m not sold that either of them can be an above average second pairing.
Either way, that’s just my preference, this OS can go for either Lil or Sandin.</div></div>
Couldn't agree more.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Genuinely curious to know what comps you're using here, or is it primarily guess work based on gut feeling that could be potentially biased based on who you cheer for? Not meant as a critique, just curious. I'm sure there are others out there that have been moved in similar circumstances.
When it comes to "Yes, he said he's willing to re-sign", sure, everyone typically says that, because it'd be a pretty poor PR move from both sides (Bert side: makes him look bad, Wings side: reduces leverage). Not saying that he won't be extended, because there's a reasonable chance that he is, just throwing this stuff out there into the universe.</div></div>
Nah, they were just semi-educated guesses. I honestly wanted to know if there was some middle ground between the Bertuzzi factions that could be found. I just used the guidelines I listed and used The Athletic's organizational prospect rankings from February to try to stick to them. I tried not to include any personal bias, though I am a Wings fan, by using that outside source as a way to estimate how different prospects are valued in the hockey industry. The biggest pushback seemed to be on Knies and the LA package, which is cool...like I said I was just throwing those proposals to get feedback/a discussion started. Knies had a really good year, but was a late second round pick just a year ago so I didn't think it was an outrageous ask, but apparently Leafs fans think that would be a major overpay. The Kings package was based on the luster having worn off Turcotte quite a bit and I felt that asking for one of their young kids already contributing at the NHL would have been too much. Adding Faber seemed like it wasn't over the top - he was listed as the #7 prospect in their organization, though it is a very strong system - as he seems like a good, but not great asset. I just think Bertuzzi's value is an interesting debate.
It's not the value being the issue in most of the trades that Wings fans summarily reject, as much as it is the failure of other fan bases to recognize where they are in their rebuild. Giving up assets for a soon to be 35 year old just doesn't make sense, even when that 35 year old is still a solid player. The Wings aren't going to be Cup contenders for, at least, a few years with or without guys like Jeff Petry, so what would be the upside of giving up future picks or young players to acquiring them?
I get the whole mentorship thing, but there are older vets that are still passable players who are great in the room that they can acquire for just short term money. Of course guys like Petry, Zucker, etc. would improve their team, but what does that really accomplish? They don't make the Wings into a Cup contender, and they likely don't even get them into the playoffs. That's not even mentioning the advantage the Wings have with all their free cap space. They'll likely be able to leverage that space into obtaining picks for taking on a contract or two other teams can no longer afford.