May 25, 2019
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Try and name me 15 better dmen than Hughes in the western conference. You can’t. He may not be great defensively, but he’s improved and is not a liability in his own end like Barrie/Rielly/Karlsson
Demko was elite last season, borderline elite the season before, and had 15 bad games due to injury/terrible dcore/historically bad PK
Boeser at full salary doesn’t have much value, but at half retained he does. Garland he had a tough season, but I don’t believe the buyout rumours at all. I expect him to bounce back under Tocchet</div></div>
top of my head? Makar, Toews, Pietro, Theodore, Josi, Hieskanen, Karlsson, Spurgeon, Ekholm, Chychrun, Hanifin and Morissey. I could probably find 3 more if I wanted to spend time on it but I think that's enough to prove the point.
And no, Demko was not elite last year, he was middle of the league average over the full season, and a few hot stretches dont change that.
And at half salary Boeser has ok value, not great value, and like i said, Garland's value is in the toilet, if he bounces back we can discus the appropriate value change then
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>How exactly is that an overpay? You’re getting a 23 year old Hughes, who instantly becomes your best dman and is a top 10-15 dman in the league, a top 10 goalie, two 2nd line caliber wingers, and a good 6/7 dman, with nearly 10M in retention for 3 likely late 1sts, a solid young NHL LD, two good prospects, an injury prone winger, a pending UFA winger, and a cap dump. Not enough high quality for the Canucks to even consider (although it is a totally unrealistic trade in the first place)</div></div>
well to start, Hughes and demko arnt nearly that good. Like, there are over the top takes and there are those. Hughes isnt even a top 15 d-man in the western conference and Demko has two decent seasons and two bad ones and is hurt, at this point he's not even an upgrade on the guys the leafs got out of the scrap bin last summer.
Boeser doesnt have great value and Garland is having such a good season there is rumours he's going to be bought out, and 7th defenders like schenn are not valuable at all.
And as I said before, retention does not magically make a player more valuable as the cost of the retention needs to be worth it, and in this case it certainly is not.