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Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 5:53 pm
Thread: LAK Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>I understand your valuation. But you got to factor roslovics value in to this. Also Samberg is our best D prospect so he’s not getting moved. I think the most wed offer is 2021 1st + Niku + Spacek + Kulikov for cap reasons. We’d obviously have to include a condition on the first that it’s top 10 protected. It’s either roslovic or a 1st.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>We don't need Kulikov to replace Martinez for the rest of this season because we have youngsters we'd like to audition for next year. Kulikov is a useless mouth to us. Your original thought is fine; my original comment that adding in Kulikov complicates matters stands.</div></div>

We don't have to send Kulikov away for the Cap but its more on the money side as we need to get rid of a D as we have way too many "7th D" players already...This was my only thought...

But I do say this, if Kulikov on here was a deal breaker in real life, the Jets would take him off...its not a big deal per say
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 5:47 pm
Thread: LAK Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I was answering the question posed in the Team Explanation, not the question of whether the trade is fair. I told the team constructor what I thought the two players were worth, but think that said value would change if Winnipeg insisted on including (or had to include, for cap reasons) Kulikov in the trade.

Consistent with my evaluation, if I were constructing a trade of Toffoli and Martinez to Winnipeg, here's what I think Winnipeg should give us:

2020 second
2021 second
Dylan Samberg (because you have Niku, Heinola and Stanley on that side already)
Michael Spacek or Johnathan Kovacevic or Simon Lundmark

LA could retain on both in order to comply with your cap situation.

That doesn't get you under, so add Kulikov (if he agrees) and we add the Calgary fourth.</div></div>

Rosy takes away from a prospect and a 2nd. He can be a player to take Toffoli's spot right away and is under team control for a few years.

I do get your evolution though...
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 5:45 pm
Thread: LAK Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>Exactly, I don’t get how kulikov affects this lmfao. But I don’t mind the move. It’s just not what I would make as Jets are going to go on a slide, including last nights game it’s likely they go 2-8 in the next 10. Playoffs are way out of reach imo. The underlying numbers show that our team isn’t even playing that good. The only reason we’re even close to a playoff spot is because of our goaltending at the start of the year and the shooting pct we had at the start of the year. Our systems are failing and that’s purely on the coaches. But I mean it doesn’t help when we have an extremely depleted blueline.</div></div>

Of course...this is only if the Jets are in a position to make the playoffs...One advantage, is that the Pacific sucks and we have a decent chance still of getting a WC spot.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 5:32 pm
Thread: LAK Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>How does kulikov affect this? He has 1 year left. It’s to even cap. I honestly think this is fair. Roslovic is a really good young player with top 6 potential he’s probably worth a late first on his own. Plus a 2nd 3rd and Stanley. This is more than fair. Kulikov has no affect in this. His cap hit is lower than toffolis , then factor in martinez’ 4m. It’s basically a wash on salaries. Plus kulikov can be a solid 5-6 guy and a 3-4 on a team starving for d.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I'd say we want a second and a good prospect for Martinez and a second, a third and a prospect for Toffoli. Your inclusion of Kulikov, who is essentially a cap dump, complicates matters.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>How does kulikov affect this? He has 1 year left. It’s to even cap. I honestly think this is fair. Roslovic is a really good young player with top 6 potential he’s probably worth a late first on his own. Plus a 2nd 3rd and Stanley. This is more than fair. Kulikov has no affect in this. His cap hit is lower than toffolis , then factor in martinez’ 4m. It’s basically a wash on salaries. Plus kulikov can be a solid 5-6 guy and a 3-4 on a team starving for d.</div></div>

Thats my thought regarding Kulikov...He is a piece to replace Mart for the remainder of the year...My thought on this was Rosy for Toffoli and Stanley, 2nd, 3rd for A Mart and a 4th
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 9:18 am
Thread: Cheveldayoffs days are limited
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bunzy1034</b></div><div>I respectfully disagree. Chevy has done pretty well all things considered in my opinion. The only thing that I didn’t like that he did is the Kevin Hayes trade a year ago. This offseason was not really his fault either:
Jacob Trouba : was as good as gone anyways
Tyler Myers: 6 years 6 million is way to much for him
Ben Chiarot: would have love to have signed him but got outbidded by an extra 500k per year
Buff: completely screwed us over and we can’t make any moves until he officially retires or comes back.
Tanev: way to long of a deal
Paul however should be moved on from in my opinion. We have had one maybe two good season with him as coach, simply not good enough. He can’t get the most out of his players, especially the bottom six, it’s been brutal. He constantly plays pylon scrubs who belong in the AHL other than young and promising players ( Bitetto instead of niku, Bourque instead of vesalainen most recently) are a few reasons why he should be gone in my opinion</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spleenmaster1002</b></div><div>Agree, there’s **** all Chevy could do with Buff’s situation, who IMO is the reason we’re in this position right now. If he had gotten surgery/started rehabbing right when the season ended, then we’d have a healthy Buff in October/November. If he didn’t want to play, he should’ve then retired immediately, and then Chevy could play around with an additional $7.6M. But now, we’ve got $7.6M in unusable cap with Buff giving no indication whether he is coming back or not. Chevy has had to dumpster dive to try to find any semblance of defensive depth.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bnormie46</b></div><div>No coach will improve an AHL caliber team. When we lost all those players or when Buff left, Cheveldayoff should have went out and got players but instead replaced the whole d core with AHL players. You don’t win games with a roster like that in the second half of the year no matter who the coach is.</div></div>

Yes, Byfuglien screwed Chevy on the cap but if you leave him on LTIR, with no other injuries, this team is actually ok.
The reason why I say this is that we would be in a playoff spot if we had Lowry, Little and Poolman all year. Come TDL, we would know if Buff was coming back and we could trade for a top 4 RD if he wasnt.