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Feb 17, 2020
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>flamesfan</b></div><div>Tkachuk is, mcdavid is, mackinnon is, Matthews is, makar is, barkov is, and probably others I’m forgetting</div></div>
Think what he meant is the teams that would be trading for Eichel, no guys are untouchable. Tkachuk isn’t close to the same tier as the guys you just mentioned, not a knock on him, it’s a pretty exclusive category. Of the guys you mentioned, none of these teams would be “interested “ in Eichel the way other teams are. When rangers fans say we’ll make a deal, but can’t have Laf, Kakko, Fox, Miller then there’s no deal to be made. The issue when the report came out that there was a potential deal between the two as reported that was a pretty nice package also doesn’t make sense. 1) Buffalo would never admit to be shopping him, 2) who said it was a good package? Again, Buffalo wouldn’t say anything, so from the Rangers side? Well they have all the incentive in the world to say it was a good package, but doesn’t make it so. 3) if it was a good package, the best piece isn’t Kratsov like so many rangers fans want to make it believe. Bottom line, you want Eichel, be ready to make it hurt. Because trading Eichel really hurts Buffalo.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>I personally would be fine with the organization allowing Savoie to shake loose in exchange for something long-term, but I know for an absolute fact that the vast majority of the Oilers fanbase is head-over-heels for the kid. Local boy, mid-round draft success, red-hot first year of college. I think his inclusion, along with Broberg's, probably eliminates any notion of a 2022 pick above a conditional third upgrading to a 2nd. If you wanted to substitute him for Broberg and make the 2022 pick guaranteed, I could be talked into it.
Hall (50% retained) for Neal, Savoie, 2022 1st, and 2023 mid/late pick might work if the prioritization is a forward as opposed to a defender.</div></div>
Haha I love the analysis, I wasn’t asking for a forward in particular, but yeah would need to look into it. I’m not up to date on so many Oiler’s guys, I do know Broberg though. I’ll take your word on it that he’s up there. I was more just speaking in terms of forward prioritization with the d prospect pool Buf has
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>Cozen won't be a prospect by the start of next season no, but as a player with no NHL games played by the time this season started, he very much qualified as a prospect.
I never particularly understood why people are afraid to assess goaltenders, or at the very least, recognize that they are hockey players. I doubt every team has a goaltending prospect that deserves to be ranked in their top-10 lists, but names like Askarov, Knight, even UPL, have enough of a track record that their development can be modeled to an extent.
They're absolutely a product of the players in front of them, much more so than a skater, but he's still a prospect nonetheless.</div></div>
Fair enough, counting those two guys, yes would push Johnson down. See my edit to the box you just quoted. Possibly find some middle ground here?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>Sorry yes, Cap Floor thanks for correcting that. Brain moves too fast for my fingers sometimes.
Neal's contract - and I'm not sure if you're aware of this - only has two seasons left on it after the conclusion of this year. He's not going to immediately block any of the Buffalo prospects and lacks a NMC. He can be stuck in Rochester if Adams desires. Neal could be bought out if ultimately desired, and his dead cap still expires by the time the wave of fresh ELCs are due to require paydays.
Buffalo doesn't get a better deal than this, even if Neal isn't what he used to be: they get the picks they wanted for Hall, a live body for next season, and a top defensive prospect to play in behind Dahlin in a season or two. I'm absolutely baffled as to why a team destined to be a basement team for the next 3 years wouldn't make a deal to bolster the group it has coming up. Do you lack clarity regarding the Sabres' short- and long-term futures?</div></div>
As for your last point, tbf you really don’t know much about the Sabres org or you would know that the last thing they need would be more LHD in the system or defense for that matter. What they truly lack and have for 5+ years is scoring. They have Dahlin, Samuelson, Johnson, Laaksonen, with a couple more as well as Bryson and Borgen already playing. I guess if it’s me, and there’s a forward prospect similar to Broberg it would be more appealing. Perhaps that’s what I was initially ehh about it.