LumberJacques

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Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 2:18 pm
Thread: I would love to see this happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oilfan1717</b></div><div>Wow - I thought the return was generous, if anything</div></div>

Well from my perspective Puljujarvi is very much a question mark who has been nothing more than replacement level in the NHL in 3 seasons this far. He's doing well right now in Finland but I wouldn't be ready to bet big on him transitioning that success to the NHL yet.

Yamamoto is probably where we differ most in our evaluation. I was never a fan of his and don't think he will end up being a top 6 player. He reminds me of David Desharnais; good playmaker and powerplay specialist but not really a guy you like seeing against top opposition at 5 on 5.

Jones is a good player and probably more of a 5/6 guy who could play up if needed like our Cale Fleury, would be a good addition but not at the price of Gallagher.

Essentially this comes down to how optimistic a person is of Yamamoto and Puljujarvi's future. You're understandably more so than me.

Also there are almost no deals I would be ok with involving Gallagher. I know it's hard to understand for fans of other teams how important he is to the Habs but he is the one guy you can always count on to create a spark when the team comes out flat. Having watched the team lack vigor for most of my life, I'd rather not have that happen again.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 20 at 9:17
Thread: MTL says NO like always
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>This is by far the hardest fanbase to negotiate with on this platform. I don't think the sense of trade value is understood because everyone who wears the habs sweater or is expected to immediately is elevated beyond their real worth by the fans. Obviously we don't expect a trade for someone who doesn't work just because the value is fair, however the value being placed on Caufield is immediately far greater than it should be. He's no McDavid... Eichel... Draisaitl... Pettersson
You won't be getting a Galchenyuk for Domi trade every time.</div></div>

There are 2 points here that probably explain this.

Firstly the Habs fanbase is very, very large and tend to be divided on many issues. There will always be at least 1 who disagrees on just about anything someone proposes. I definitely get how that would seem frustrating from the outside, although believe me it often feels worse from the inside.

Secondly the Habs are currently doing very well and most fans probably don't see the need to rock the boat too much. Also the team has basically never had a good prospect pool (except for the class of 2007) since the early 90's and are therefore quite protective of it. Impatience has really been the bane of previous GMs and done more harm than good in the past imo *cough* McDonough for Gomez. Also trading multiple 1st and 2nd round picks for quick fixes when they should instead have been building around Price, Pacioretty, Subban, Markov and Plekanec with youth. Many of us fans would like them to have learned from those mistakes and not repeat them.

P.S. sorry about the long read, I just feel it's better I try to explain as thoroughly as I can to avoid as many misunderstandings as possible.