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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 21 at 8:45 p.m.

Thread: TDL targets by position ranked by should-be cost to acquire

Would never trade Reilly 1for1 for Gavrikov

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 8, 2022 at 6:58 p.m.

Thread: Boston Bruins signed Pavel Zacha (1 Year / $3,500,000 AAV)

Imagine being handed Bergeron and Krejci on a silver platter, and then do this with the same amount of cap space.

I'm so tired of this team, man. This rebuild will last 24 years.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 5, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.

Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Jesper Bratt (1 Year / $5,450,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Bratt is a very good player, but he is not NJ's best player. Not even their best offensive player. Hughes is.

If Devils were trading Bratt for Ehlers, Pasta or Meier...NJ would not add. (They'd probably just extend Bratt). Bratt is likely better than Ehlers, is definitely better than Meier and Pasta has 1-year to UFA.

Now, if Rantanen or Kucherov were on the table, as you were suggesting, that may be different story.</div></div>

I rate Bratt over Kuch and Rantnen. Hughes is good, but Bratt’s isolated numbers are dumb-good. Like McDavid 2-3 years ago good.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 5, 2022 at 8:36 a.m.

Thread: Calgary Flames signed Andrew Mangiapane (3 Years / $5,800,000 AAV)

Mangiapane is one of the better players in the league. Not looking forward to a twice as expensive and half as good Huberdeau getting credit for all the good he will do Calgary over the next 3 years

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 5, 2022 at 8:34 a.m.

Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Jesper Bratt (1 Year / $5,450,000 AAV)

Bratt is probably NJs best player and it’s integral for their future as contenders to get him done long-term. And the worst part is I don’t think the Devils organization believes any of this.

If I’m a team moving out of competition with a forward in their prime (wpg with Ehlers, Boston with Pasta, even SJ with Meier etc) I’m doing whatever I can to flip them for Bratt, and the weirdest part is that those teams probably get an additional asset in return.

Now that I think of it, Bratt is exactly the type of player Colorado or Tampa could trade one of their more veteran scorers for. NJ believes they get the cup pedigree necessary to win, and the perennial contenders keeps contending…

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 5, 2022 at 8:29 a.m.

Thread: Calgary Flames signed Jonathan Huberdeau (8 Years / $10,500,000 AAV)

*This* is why Florida were the winners of the Tkachuk trade. Huberdeau is the kind of player you want to trade because his name value is higher than his one-ice one.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug. 1, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.

Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Jonas Siegenthaler (5 Years / $3,400,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>There's a difference between offensive leaning and offensive only. In fact, if you are offensive leaning, you likely are an asset defensively, because as long as you have the puck, you opponent can't score.

Siegenthaler is defensive only. He has no offensive upside, meaning as long as he is on the ice, you are likely no scoring either. This is good if you are on the PK, up by a goal late, etc., but neutral most of the time.</div></div>

You're describing Morgan Rielly in reverse

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 29, 2022 at 6:00 p.m.

Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Jonas Siegenthaler (5 Years / $3,400,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>Name three offence-one D-men who get paid $7 million to $9 million WHO PLAY ON WINNING TEAMS. Yes, you can find examples of players who are overpaid and therefore hurt their team, but that's not the same as saying that's what they are worth.</div></div>

What? Part of my point is that 3.4m is still very good for a specialist. 7-9m isn't.

Morgan Rielly, Darnell Nurse, Roman Josi, are a few heavily offensively leaning defensemen making 7-9m on winning teams.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 29, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.

Thread: Anaheim Ducks signed John Klingberg (1 Year / $7,000,000 AAV)

Looked very dubious until I saw the term. Smart business from Anaheim - might net them a 1st+ at the TDL. This is what a team in their situation should do.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 28, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.

Thread: Carolina Hurricanes signed Ethan Bear (1 Year / $2,200,000 AAV)

Cool, Bear is really good

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 28, 2022 at 1:02 p.m.

Thread: New York Rangers signed Kaapo Kakko (2 Years / $2,100,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BuFfaLOFaN</b></div><div>He is very strong defensively for sure, but will he ever be a second line player if he can't get more than 50 points? Kakko reminds me of a Vatrano type player. Lets hope he can start scoring and end up better than Vatrano, I personally don't see why Kakko couldn't end up scoring 70 and being a solid defensive winger.</div></div>

If you play on the 2nd line vs top competition, you don't have to score more than 50 points as long as your opponents score 45 points or w/e

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 28, 2022 at 1:01 p.m.

Thread: Anaheim Ducks signed Olli Juolevi (1 Year / $750,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DangleCat</b></div><div>But the Nucks did not have 3 picks in a row and blow all 3 of them....they just messed up one lol.</div></div>

Sure, but also, pick 7 or wherever Joulevi was drafted typically has way more certainty than picks 14-16

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 28, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.

Thread: New York Rangers signed Kaapo Kakko (2 Years / $2,100,000 AAV)

Kakko is good. He's defensively strong and takes fewer penalties than expected. He's the type of player I would expect to call good with a bunch of pushback on this board. However, he was picked highly, so I guess people will hold out for another year or two, then realize his production isn't great, and start to hate him while I continue to believe he's a solid 2nd-line type player.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 27, 2022 at 7:04 p.m.

Thread: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Danton Heinen (1 Year / $1,000,000 AAV)

Heinen has always been underrated cause he's a strong possession-player. Would've seemingly been a top-6 C on the Bruins this year...

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 27, 2022 at 5:44 p.m.

Thread: Anaheim Ducks signed Olli Juolevi (1 Year / $750,000 AAV)

As a Bruins fan who gets crap every time any player from the -15 draft is mentioned I just want to point out Joulevi was picked one slot ahead of Matt Tkachuk

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 27, 2022 at 5:36 a.m.

Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Jonas Siegenthaler (5 Years / $3,400,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>Yes, he's great on defence, but he's got nearly zero offensive upside.

It's s good contract, but it isn't a steal like some are saying.</div></div>

This is hilarious, because offense-only defensemen easily get 7-9m on the market. 3.4 is nothing for this type of player

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 24, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.

Thread: Calgary Flames signed Matthew Tkachuk (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ThirdPeriodCringe</b></div><div>How was he able to sign a 8 year contract? I thought the window to sign for max term was closed last week. Unless that window only applied to UFA status and not RFAs.</div></div>

He signed with Calgary on the condition of the trade

Forum: NHL TradesJul. 22, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.

Thread: (CBJ/SEA) - Bjorkstrand for 2023 3rd and 4th RD picks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>Especially in the ultimate team sport. 1 player even at Gaudreau's elite play isn't worth signing MOAR BIG Gudbrasson and giving away Bjorkstrand.</div></div>

Oh I forgot they added Gudbrandson. That was the real mistake all along...

Forum: NHL TradesJul. 22, 2022 at 5:18 p.m.

Thread: (CBJ/SEA) - Bjorkstrand for 2023 3rd and 4th RD picks

<img class="for_img" src="https://imgur.com/a/NUEWlPm" alt="NUEWlPm">

While Gaudreau is clearly the more gifted offensive creator, I don't think the value for money is what CBJ thinks it is when accounting for defensive ability.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 15, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Joshua Norris (8 Years / $7,950,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>Sens are leveraging their cap space now to lock in his cap hit long term.

If escrow is paid back within 2 seasons, as expected. What will the cap be in the summer of 2025, and what sort of cap projections will they be expecting for the summer of 2026 and beyond?

The cap could have been as high as 88.5 million for the 20-21 season. That doesn't factor in increased HRR from the new US TV deal.

With that kind of raise, you're looking at a 6M player inflating to 7.5+, an 8M player inflating to 10M+, etc.

Norris gave the Senators nothing in terms of help or a discount, but it's still better strategically than the alternative of a bridge deal.</div></div>

If you read what I suggested it was only a 1-year-thing, but I also kind of disagree with the premise. Not because you are wrong in that contracts will grow on average, but because it will still take some time to asdjust to the new normal.

But I can be more clear as well - I believe this in an overpay. Even above 5 mil I'm starting to raise eyebrows regarding Norris.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 14, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Joshua Norris (8 Years / $7,950,000 AAV)

Riding a shooting high, bit worried about this one. Norris basically has 3C stats with a crazy shot impact. If that regresses this will look bad quickly. Even with a good shot, 7m was too much for a player like that in Pacioretty for Vegas to hold onto. I wouldn't have paid more than 6 or so million for Norris. Better to qualify as RFA and see him a) regress and buy lower, or b) him sustain a high shooting percentage to prove that he's an outlier.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 13, 2022 at 8:35 p.m.

Thread: San Jose Sharks signed Oskar Lindblom (2 Years / $2,500,000 AAV)

I see a lot of comments regarding buying or selling high/low.

So Lindblom returned from cancer during covid, and is historically a good defensive forward, rather than one with big offensive output. And he was played in a smaller role than previous for the Flyers when he came back...

This is the exact type of bet you want to make as the Sharks or any other team with cap space and little idea how to navigate free agency.

Forum: NHL TradesJul. 13, 2022 at 8:31 p.m.

Thread: (BOS/NJD) - Haula for Zacha

I almost checked out from my previous habit of watching most Bruins games every season last year because of the Haula signing. He's never been good, there are no redeeming qualities to keep him on the lineup, and less so for paying him almost 3 mil towards the cap. I'm so greatful this happened.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 13, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.

Thread: Columbus Blue Jackets signed Johnny Gaudreau (7 Years / $9,750,000 AAV)

It all depends on how quickly Johnny requests a trade out of CBJ - if its within the next 3 years they will get a plethora of picks back, but if its later in the contract, they will have to pay to get rid of him.

Of course they arent winning anytime soon.

Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 13, 2022 at 9:06 a.m.

Thread: Edmonton Oilers signed Evander Kane (4 Years / $5,125,000 AAV)

People on this board believes this is a good signing while Nichuskin is a bad one smh my head

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