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MelonVK

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Forum: NHL SigningsSat at 4:14 am
Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed Ondrej Kase (1 Year / $1,250,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>Everything from having the trade value of a first liner 3 years ago, to being seen as a "obvious" Seattle choice from Boston, to being seen as an analytical mastermind.

What toronto has done here is fine, but this player isn't anything more than a bottom six depth piece.</div></div>

It's like you have no idea why he is available.

If he's healthy he could play in probably any top 6. This is an extremely low price to pay for someone of that quality. Every team signs 10 guys for 800k that they go on to release the next year. 1.25 is nothing.

And worst case he ends up on LTIR. There's no downside to this signing and the upside is huge. Insanely mislead comment you produced there.
Forum: NHL SigningsWed at 6:43 pm
Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Dougie Hamilton (7 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>I mean, DeAngelo before the controversy was an analytics darling of his own on the offensive end. It wouldn't shock me if they paired him with Slavin and try to work similar magic in a Moneyball sort of way. It also wouldn't shock me if the Hurricanes replace a lot of the lost offensive value from Dougie into the forward group with Tarasenko or Laine.</div></div>

Sure. It's a hard but not impossible task. I think you'd be disappointed in both Laines and Tarasenkos respective abilities to drive offense, rather than finishing it. In the other hand, a team like Carolina could probably take advantage of pure shooters considering how they already tilt the ice. Svechnikov is doing incredibly there, although he's also better at keeping possession.
Forum: NHL SigningsWed at 6:26 pm
Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Dougie Hamilton (7 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>There are some defensemen out there that are outstanding players no matter who their partners are. I look at Tampa's entire left side as the primary example of such a setup. They ran Hedman with Jan Rutta and Sergachev with an adjusting slow starter in David Savard all postseason and both still delivered the goods to a second straight cup. That's the kind of cash that Hamilton is getting paid to deliver, and as long as that left side is still weak, IDK if that cash spent will be worth it.</div></div>

Hedman isn't better than Hamilton. He's cashing in on not only the best power play in the league, but the best offensive unit we've seen in the cap era. The Canes on the other hand are dominated by defensive forwards up front. We don't even have to argue more - you can just watch the Canes turn back into Minnesota-west and the Devils take their first strides towards playoff hockey in years.
Forum: NHL SigningsWed at 6:05 pm
Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Dougie Hamilton (7 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>I'm also, in effect, pointing out that New Jersey's left side of the defense skews more like Kris Russell than Jaccob Slavin. This is objectively true outside of Ty Smith, but even he's pretty raw. And even so, Carolina has effectively swapped Hamilton for DeAngelo, who (love or hate) is the only non-Hamilton defenseman on the UFA market that actually drives offense at 5-on-5 and the power play. I think New Jersey made a huge splash with some risks (as I pointed out) but could pay off. I'm just saying that the roster structure matters with Hamilton. Both Carolina and Calgary had elite LH defensemen in Slavin and Giordano and New Jersey doesn't.</div></div>

I just think it rings hollow as any defenseman is better with a good partner. I have no reason to believe Dougie is in greater need of one than anyone else is. As pointed out in my last reply - if anything he does the things really well to carry a less offensively gifted defenseman next to him.
Forum: NHL SigningsWed at 5:49 pm
Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Dougie Hamilton (7 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>Slavin was always as good as he was before playing with Hamilton. They worked well together for a reason. It was a yin and yang partnership. The issue is that Hamilton is a great complementary player but not someone that could carry a lesser defenseman on his pairing. The latter is what you should expect to pay for $9M/year and something that Hedman, Fox, Makar, and the like can do. If Ty Smith or Luke Hughes develop into a Slavin-esque stabilizer in the coming seasons, then great for New Jersey. If you pair him with a Kris Russell, though, like Calgary tried to do at one point, get ready for some disappointment.</div></div>

That's because anyone is a disappointment next to Russell. Dougie carried the guys I mentioned, I have the receipts for it. You saying he's "complementary" doesn't mean he is. If anything Slavin is complementary to Dougie, because Hamiltons possession abilities has improved every defensive defenseman numbers next to him. Slavin *can* play defense because Dougie makes sure possession is on their side most of the time.

Your example helps me if anything - it's the literal embodiment of Russell as a player; if he had Dougies puck playing abilities he'd be a useful defenseman, or even a good one. Instead all he does is block one shot to have opponents take the next one. When Slavin blocks Dougie turns the play around. It's the rarest and most important quality a defenseman can have, the ability to turn defense into offense. No one cares how many shots you prevent if you make sure there are more of them to prevent in the first place.
Forum: NHL SigningsWed at 5:42 pm
Thread: Boston Bruins signed Linus Ullmark (4 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>After watching how goalies contracts have aged, both good and bad, I've essentially come to the conclusion that any goalie contract over 3 years is automatically bad.

For example: Gibson should have won back to back vezinas and has been completely mediocre the last 2 straight years and no where worth his contract.

Has ullmark been good? Sort of. He was alright on an awful Buffalo squad. Will he be good next year? Literally no one knows because goalies are voodoo.

For this money and term, that's an easy no</div></div>

Hellebuyck has demolished expectations. And we don't have to go beyond Boston and Rask to know a great goalie worth his money. Even what Hank did the first handful of years probably compensated for the last two (in which he was still okay, just overpaid). Vasilievsky looking like he'll be worth every penny.

Its moreso that people don't look at expectations when signing goalies most of the time. Ullmark might have been Buffalos starter, but what does that really mean? He hasn't impressed beyond any expectations. This seems like a rough goalie contract to me, but there are good ones out there.
Forum: NHL SigningsWed at 5:35 pm
Thread: New Jersey Devils signed Dougie Hamilton (7 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>Yeah, no. Hamilton isn't worth $9M a season...Pietrangelo is able to anchor his own pairing without an elite partner, unlike Hamilton, and actually got less from Vegas. Still, though, I get why New Jersey was willing to overspend. This is a good move for them considering the lack of good righties on their team.</div></div>

You're so wrong. Dougie changed the trajectories of all teams he joined and left. Sent Boston into a re-tool by leaving, Calgary towards the top of the Pacific and back into purgatory when he left. Carolina from breaking playoff-missing records to a true contender.

He's more consistent than any other top D. He's been this good for years while others have fallen off. Giordano and Slavin post *way worse* individual numbers away from Dougie. Their respective corsies go from 57-58% to below 50 without him. The only way Dougie requires an elite partner is by turning whoever's playing next to him into one.

One of the best defensemen this millennium is playing in front of you're eyes and you're missing it due to a narrative you can debunk with 2 stat points.