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Oil Country Rising
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Forum: Armchair-GMNov 6, 2020 at 5:33
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 6, 2020 at 5:13
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lyle_Bubas</b></div><div>EDM would want more than that, but the value isn't worth even that. Also, the whole proposal of this trade invites a discussion as to how good Matthews is vs. McDavid right? That's not an important thing to bring up?

Goals/60 since 16-17, Matthews is 1st, McDavid is 25th, MacKinnon is 29th. Points/60 Matthews is 10th, McDavid is 3rd, Mackinnon is 11th. Defensively Matthews is way better, blocks shots, tied for most takeaways in the whole league, not to mention WAY better on faceoffs

McDavid is flashier, faster, and a generational passer, but Matthews is essentially the equivalent in terms of goal scoring. McDavid is better overall and the 'sexier' player to have on the team, but I don't think it's a radical concept to at least consider keeping Matthews over McDavid, esp when it's not 1 for 1</div></div>

The main reasoning for the giveaway fallacy is the fact that McDavid is a puck possession player. He drives in 1v4 almost half the time and often gets a half-decent scoring attempt off despite those odds. Matthews benefits from this because he is a finisher, not really touching the puck unless he's firing it in.

Secondly, McDavid is always looking to pass. Only when there are no open options does he take the shot himself. Matthews is a shot attempt machine. 339 vs 504 to be exact. So you see, on 200-ish more attempts, your guy pot in, what, 5-10 more? This suggests McDavid has a very underrated and extremely UNDERUSED shot.

Anything else while I'm at it, champ?
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 6, 2020 at 4:27
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 6, 2020 at 3:49
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lyle_Bubas</b></div><div>I'd rather andersen for a year than be stuck with Koskinen for 2 more years at that cap hit

Also, Robertson as a top 6 player on an ELC? That has no value?

As for Matthews vs. McDavid, matthews is better defensively and a better goal scorer. McDavid is way faster, has better hockey sense in general and is a way better passer

To act like one is WORLDS above the other man, idk. Matthews was on pace for 55 goals this year. He is a top 2-3 goal scorer in the league. McDavid is flashier and scores more dazzling goals, he's uber talented and would prob light it up on a team like the leafs. McDavid is better ofc but we're debating between like #1 or #2 vs. #4 or #5. Not a world of difference</div></div>

That's a step in the right direction.

If you can take the top 1 player for the price of the top 4th or 5th player that's what's normally called an upgrade. To deny such an offer for any reason at all beside longevity (ie, if McDavid was 30 and Matthews was 21) is not being realistic at all.

Shift to draft picks and all of a sudden it makes more sense. 2015 Oilers have the 1st overall, BUF has the 2nd overall. McDavid and Eichel are on the board. As prospects with 0 NHL games played, there really isnt much separating the two as they were both coined as "generational talents"; McDavid could've flopped, Eichel could shine etc. But, you could bet your ass the price to move up 1 spot would've been MULTIPLE assets to ensure they could have power of choice.

Im not saying there's a 1st vs 100th levels of difference, but it is significant enough for TOR to have to pay extra to get McDavid, and not the other way around like how you're thinking.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 6, 2020 at 3:24
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