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Forum: Armchair-GMOct 7 at 2:42

Thread: I wish this would happen

Right now teams are holding Vegas hostage demanding a 1st and a 2nd to take Fleury even at 50%. I think they can do better in this trade you proposed.

Forum: NHL TradesOct 7 at 11:41

Thread: (PIT/OTT) - Murray for Gruden and 2nd round pick

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>Max I’d pay for Murray is a 2nd round pick. Looks like I got outbid.

:tearsofjoy

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OTT, CHI and CGY were the three most likely destinations. No surprise here.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 5 at 9:27

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>Oh really? How do you figure? Hawks don't want Murray or they'd have him.

this guys logic --> "Hawks talked to Murray and couldn't agree on a deal" --> You see they wanted him

Obviously not enough

Also, can't find anything that says the Hawks offered 5 times 5 so if you are going to say that then provide a reliable source otherwise keep your opinions to yourself</div></div>

So you're one of those people who can't admit when they're wrong? The Hawks were literally going to pull the trigger on a trade with the Pens if they could negotiate an extension. That means the team wants him. You said the Hawks don't want him. You were wrong. Plain and simple.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 5 at 4:56

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>League minimum is too much. Also do you have a source on this matching Lehner deal thing or where is that coming from?</div></div>

Google is your friend. Regardless. You were still 100% wrong as I said. The Hawks do in fact want Murray, so yeah.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 5 at 4:46

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I mean maybe Chicago was like, "Hey Matt, we'll give you 5 years at league minimum since your performance is awful. Honestly, you should be paying us to play here."</div></div>

Actually they offered him the same as the Lehner deal, so again, the Hawks wanted him and were offering him good money. Sadly, Murray thinks he's worth over $6M which I'll agree is too much.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 5 at 1:22

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>:tearsofjoy

So why do you think you are trading a backup goalie who had a bad year for a 50 point 2C? :tearsofjoy</div></div>

What makes you think a "2C" will cost $3.3M?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 5 at 1:21

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>You seem very upset that Chicago doesn't value your players. Sorry, we just don't. I don't know what to tell you.</div></div>

Hey, remember that one time when you said the Hawks don't want Murray?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Elliotte Friedman</b></div><div>Elliotte Friedman
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Hearing CHI/PIT had Matt Murray conversations and the Blackhawks had permission to discuss an extension. Things did not work out, so everyone continues examining their options.</div></div>

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 9:31

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>I’m not great at math, average probably, but I know my way around an ACGM. You can easily go check, in fact there is a post that just went up by <a href="/users/LFCHOCKEY" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@LFCHOCKEY</a> with evolving hockey’s cap projections. Pretty easy fit.</div></div>

LOL Strome is not getting $3.3M. I just looked at the one posted. That's VERY laughable. I love how you and the other genius say he's a 2C, but you want to pay him average 3C money. Yeah, I'm done with you.

EDIT: Actually $3.3M is less than you'd pay a good 3C. $4M is the going rate for an above average 3C. Man, you hawks fans are something.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 9:24

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>The Hawks don't view Murray as a starting goalie so we are happy to look elsewhere.</div></div>

This is again, flawed. YOU think he's not, but the HAWKS do as many outlets, including both Chicago and National outlets have reported. So, yeah, you're wrong.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 9:23

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>You can look at any average hawks team and see that we don’t have a problem now that we moved Maatta.</div></div>

So you are mathematically challenged, too?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 9:15

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>Dude, just because we have to trade someone doesn't mean we have to trade them to the Penguins.

Secondly, there are tons of factors that you aren't considering including:

Is Shaw and his 3.9M cap hit coming back?
What about Seabrook?
What about De Haan?
Is Zach Smith getting bought out or traded?
Is Ian Mitchell going to start in the NHL next season?
Is Strome and Kubalik going to accept bridge deals or want longer term contracts?
What about Koekkoek, Caggiula, Beaudin, Suter, etc.
What about Crawford?
What about Gilbert, Carlsson, etc..

Clearly you know nothing about the Hawks so just worry about finding someone to take Murray and leave us alone.</div></div>

You keep missing the point. Forget about Murray. If you want a legit starting goalie, Strome still doesn't make sense.

Seabrook isn't going anywhere unless the NHL allows teams a compliance buyout which they are considering.
Shaw is coming back, don't worry.

As far as your other points, you're still missing the financial point or how much it will cost you to get a legit starting goalie. You're not getting anyone worthwhile for $2M. Strome, if you're lucky, will cost $4.5M. If you have a chance, not with the Pens, to get a capable 3C that's cost-controlled, it helps you accomplish other goals.

Get a clue.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 9:03

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>Ok well I just gave my feedback.</div></div>

I mean, it's wrong feedback, but ok. Too many fans evaluate trades as fans rather than paying attention to what's actually happening and that's what you're doing. You can ignore the financial reality of your team, but that doesn't make it any less real.

You have $11.1M free.
Including LTIR, you have 11 forwards, 6 dmen and 1 back-up goalie signed. You need to sign three to four players and Kubalik + Strome is probably going to take up around $10M to $11M.

Have fun putting your head in the sand about what's coming down the pike!

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:58

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>He is a 2C. (I win)</div></div>

Ok, then I guess you can move Dach.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:58

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>You don't understand that I don't care what the Penguins problems are. I'm a Chicago fan. You seem to really be desperate to acquire Strome since you created the thread and persisted to verbally harass everyone saying no. So if you want Strome, that's the price. Otherwise we are fine to keep our players and you keep your players.</div></div>

You don't seem to understand the reality. Just because YOU, a fan, doesn't like Murray doesn't mean the ACTUAL TEAM doesn't. Again, you stink at this.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:53

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>he’s been an average to below-average player for the three seasons since winning his two cups. This past season, he had a .899 save percentage and a GSAA of minus-11.6 on a decent penguins team. With the market being what it is, you aren’t getting a 50 point 2C for your backup goalie. Even if he won 2 cups a lifetime ago.</div></div>

He's not a 2C.

Murray had a .919 Save % the season before that. I'm not saying he's an elite goalie, but you're getting a goalie who elevates his game in the playoffs and is good enough to make you competitive in the regular season.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:53

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>So that give us Jarry and McCann for Strome and a 2nd. I'm down with that, but we aren't taking Murray</div></div>

Why would the Pens trade the cheaper option? That doesn't make sense. You're really not good at this.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:51

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>If that's what you think his value is, then offer sheet him</div></div>

So that's your way of avoiding a question and realize you're wrong. Ok.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:50

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>We can and we will.

Also, why are you trying to trade Murray? Can’t afford him?</div></div>

No, the Pens can't and the fact they have cheaper capable option gives them this opportunity to move Murray.

Also, you don't have many players you can just move out to make all this space for a goalie. Getting a bargain cost-controlled 3C like McCann give the opportunity to send out a cheaper contract to make room for a goalie instead of having to sacrifice a better player. Also, you guys still need to sign a sixth dman.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:46

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I don't know, but I don't see him make 5M unless he's signing a long contract. We are actually fine with our cap space. There are a lot of "ifs" that haven't been answered. Like is Shaw returning? Are they gonna trade Saad (even at 3M), De Haan, etc.</div></div>

So you think Strome is a 2C, but wouldn't get $5M? That doesn't seem congruent.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:43

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>Crawford had a .917% versus Murray's .899% how do you figure mediocre?</div></div>

Murray had a bad year. Everyone knows this. He battled injury problems and personal family loss. He will bounce back.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:41

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>Strome isn't getting 5M. Secondly, even if we can't keep him, we don't have to trade him exclusively to the Penguins. There are 29 other teams and the league and I'm sure one of them will make a deal that doesn't return a backup goalie</div></div>

Obviously you don't have to trade him to the Pens, but offering someone like McCann who's cost-controlled would be to your benefit. If the Pens can move JJ then they have the luxury of getting a higher-end 3C like Strome. You guys are not in that position.

Also, how much do you think Strome is going to get? I can't wait to hear this.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:39

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Just stop with this guy, he put together a trade with terrible value for the Hawks and is too stubborn to realize it after multiple people are telling him. Move on, he's trolling at this point.</div></div>

I'm not trolling. It's not my fault you guys are fanboys with no clue.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:38

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I don't maybe considering Jarry just got 3.5 and I doubt that Murray will take less than his backup and Lehner just got 5. I'd rather go after Markstrom or Holtby or any of the other free agent goalies. Or just keep Crawford because whatever cap hit Murray is gonna demand will probably be fine with Crawford who is easily the better goalie</div></div>

Holtby is on a sharp decline and is 31. He will get overpaid by someone. You're not getting Marktsrom, so kiss that dream goodbye. Sure, keep Crawford and being mediocre. Good strategy.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:37

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>"DUDE" we aren't trading Strome, a 23 year old .76ppg 2C for Murray..Sorry guy just not happening and everyone is telling you that. Moving on</div></div>

You can't keep him and makes no sense to keep him. You're not in the financial position to spend $5Mish on a 3C and you have Dach now. Simple logic and math, DUDE. You guys have a little over $11M which if you kept Strome, him and Kubalik will eat that up. Where's the money for your goalie?

Forum: Armchair-GMOct 4 at 8:33

Thread: Hawks Pens

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>Let us worry about Kubalik and Strome's contract</div></div>

So tell me, genius. What goalie are you going to get and how much will he cost? I mean, this is a flooded market. I'm all ears.

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