Jan 6, 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>The Kings have a logjam at 3LHD, with MacDermid, Clague, Hults, and Brickley all looking to make the jump in the next season or two. Dermott isn't a significant upgrade over any one of those guys.
The Kings are certainly willing to unload spare parts to bring in draft picks, but Walker and Roy not spare parts. They're necessary players in this defense right now, and trading either one would necessitate them finding someone else to fill that spot. Both are young enough to where they could be long-term staples on this team. A 2nd round pick just isn't enough to lose them.
If Durzi or Spence improve significantly over the next season or two, then Walker could become expendable and then a trade like this would be explored. Realistically, both of those guys are 3-4 years away from being NHL ready, so I don't see that happening.
I just can't see the Kings going for this deal. I'm not saying it's not fair value, it just doesn't make sense for the Kings to do it.</div></div>
I guess that's fair. But hypothetically speaking, how much more would the Kings need in that trade to be convinced to part with Walker? At some point the trade becomes too good to turn down, so what is that point?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>Manson Terry and a 2nd is worth waaaay more than AJ Holl a 1 and a 6</div></div>
It really isn't. Holl is an NHL Dman on a cheap contract with term (1 more year than Manson), Kerfoot is probably better than Terry right now, and that pick is 15th overall in a deep draft... which means the Ducks could get another impact NHL player down the line. For a team knee-deep in a rebuild like they are, that's a lot more important than a 28-year old defenceman.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I will leave this here for everyone "Dubas wants a Muzzin Caliber player" that means a guy like Parayko, Pulock, Ellis, etc. Manson is not nor will be that caliber</div></div>
Parayko and Pulock are both significantly younger and they play for winning teams who would have less incentive to trade them... and both their cap hits (assuming Pulock signs for what I think he will) are too high for the Leafs. Not to mention the return would have to be a lot more than a late first and 2 level B prospects. I wouldn't want to touch Ellis because he's locked up to a long-term contract, and Nashville wouldn't trade him because they're also a contender, and he would cost a lot. Dubas can't go big game hunting without parting with one of Marner or Nylander and he's said he doesn't want to do that.
Manson is a solid top-4 D with a couple years left on his contract and who would fit in well playing alongside an offensive guy like Rielly. Plus, with the additions of Walker and Demelo, the Leafs won't need to lean as heavily on Manson, and Muzzin too for that matter, because they'll be able to confidently roll out 3 pairings.