Jun 24, 2015
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>I'm not suggesting he's not a potentially franchise altering player, I just don't think I'd be willing to move heaven and earth to acquire him compared to an equivalent C or D.
Even if he ends up being a top 5 winger in the league, in my opinion, it's unlikely that he would ever provide more value than what they would end up giving up. For example, is Lafreniere better than Batherson, Drysdale, Jarvis? I don't necessarily think so, and Ottawa still gives up three 2nds one of them being 33rd overall, and a 3rd.</div></div>
That's fair, but you could also argue #1 and #3 would provide more value than the pieces you mentioned. I don't think moving Batherson is a good idea though. At the end of the day, it really depends on the team that gets the pick and what they'd potentially be looking for as a return.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Hmmm....well I 100% agree with pick a lane and stick to it. Somehow we really do need to shed Maatta. I'm not 100% sure that he has the same value he did before the 3 year cap decision. If we can get a 4th...I think we need to. If we can't...we still need to buy him out. It's $3.5M that we need. I also agree with burying vs buying out Zach Smith. That extra cap in 2021 can go to Strome or Kubalik. His vet presence will help the kids develop in Rockford.
The draft will come before the goalie situation gets solved. If we draft Askarov...then I'm more for a shorter term cheaper Crow option. We we draft Lundell...then I'm ok with the Strome trade for Brodin. If we draft Quinn....well then I don't really have an answer for you.
BUT as for who plays in net??? There are a lot of goalie options out there. Lehner/Crow/Markstrom/Holtby, heck I'm not even sure what's going to happen with PIT's goalie situation. Matt Murray's arbitration would scare the heck out of me if I were a PIT fan. I think there's a small chance that he also becomes a UFA too. We'll see. What I'm getting at though is...how many team are actually out there that can pay all of these guys??? Not many at all. DET and BUF can...ok fine. OTT can, but I'm not sure they will...NOR would these vets really want to go to a rebuild. That's about it. So as much as Lehner's "had enough of taking discounts his whole life" the cap isn't going up. That's bad news for big contracts. I'd prefer to sign Crow for the lower cap hit and then try to persuade one of the other vets that it's just the wrong year for a big contract. Next year is far better for these guys...Hank, Pekka, CAR, TOR, BOS, SEA etc... a lot more teams will be looking for goalies. Convince one of these guys that a tandem is the best option AND there's no better place to tandem than with Crow. It's designed so Crow doesn't play a ton of games. ALSO, this give the Hawks optionality too. If they stink again...trade at the TDL. If a freak injury happens...which they do happen...TDL. More picks.
I'd prefer to keep Koekkoek. I really do think he can be a diamond in the rough. YES, he's had some major injury problems early in his career, but that hasn't been an issue the past few years. There was a reason he was drafted #10 OA. I'd really like to keep him longer and see what happens. I'm not a big Seeler fan. Would also prefer to play Carlsson over Seeler.
I think this is too much $ for Drake. I'd actually like to give Kurashev a shot.
The strategy above also helps for Seattle. Depending on DeHaan's recovery...that's likely who they would take. I guess it could be Carlsson or Koekkoek, but I don't think so...so Seattle would theoretically be helping the hawks cap situation shortly too.</div></div>
I agree with you Maatta has to go, I can't see him on this team next season with the logjam the hawks have. I just think Seeler is the cheaper option and if the hawks are looking for a big name goalie they can rotate him and Seabrook out. We all know Seabrook won't be benched for a full 82, so I'm definitely more lenient on who shares the 7D duties with Seabrook. He's just a call up away.
I just think the hawks are relying on too many former 1st rounders to reach another level. Strome, Koekkoek, Nylander and even Maatta are all getting major opportunities to play a more consistent game, but when they struggle, it brings the whole team down and puts more burden on Toews and Kane. I don't know how much I like having all of them in the line up but we don't have much of a choice. The problem with giving Kurashev a shot is if he doesn't work there's nobody else to try and Smith gets inserted into the line up and I rather not see Carpenter, Smith or Highmore on line 3. So Strome might end up on the wing in that situation.
I think the hawks need more consistency out of their forwards, and whether that results in trading picks or moving Saad and Caggiula, who knows. But, I do think the offense may be just as problematic as the defense.