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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 3:24 p.m.
Thread: Chychrun trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>You forgot to mention Hedman, Josi, Slavin, Sergachev, and Hughes in the list of guys you rate Chychrun over.

I think Chychrun can be really good, and in the right system and good team he'll look great, but I think you are vastly overrating him. He's not a #1, maybe could be a 2 but he's probably just a really good #3.</div></div>

lool under what exact metrics do you make that analysis?

and wow telll me you've never watched Hedman and Serg play outside of some highlight without telling me

of those, Josi is the only other comparable but the others are not better dmen this year or next

Slavin is the best "defensive" dman which is worth far less than someone like Hughes who only moves the puck and doesn't take it away
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 7:48 a.m.
Thread: Both Is it possible
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike7856</b></div><div>Seems like so much interest in Chychrun right now not sure if leafs can get it done without Knies included. Going to be exciting to see! If Dubas can pull that off, whew they’ll be as tough of an opponent you can get!</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Vejmelka isn't going to be a throw in, he's probably costing a 1st+. I might have read somewhere that it would be a 1st+2nd.So, I don't think they can get all 3. They don't need Vejmelka, they would likely place Murray on LTIR. Then deal Engvall or Holl (unlikely) for cheaper replacements.

Getting both Chychrun and Meier is unlikely especially without Knies but it is possible. I think other GMs would have to be sleeping at the wheel though.</div></div>

Remove Vej and Zona still throws a brick thru your window with "no" smeared in brown
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12 at 7:31 a.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles10</b></div><div>I'm not sure they would "laugh at 'my' face". Noah Dobson just turned 23 years old (January 7th), he's an RD and already one of the best defensemen in the league by all credible analytics data. Josh Bailey is a cap dump for sure, but he's only making 3.5M next season in his final contract year. Robin Salo (I could see him having a similar contribution as Juuso Välimäki for them) should play in the NHL by now for sure. Victor Söderström could be a top-4 defenseman, but it's not a sure thing, Jakob Chychrun has never even played 70 games and is an LD. Matias Maccelli has had a good year so far in 30-ish games, but far from a sure thing, I don't think it's as far off as you imply.</div></div>

First off, the '23 3rd already belongs to Zona

And then...

Zona doesn't do Chych for Dobson regardless of games played. Chych drives possession and produces more goals than Dob, who is a <strong>giveaway machine</strong> and plays 2 mins less per game.

Chych is a +8 on a -50 team and Dobson a -5 who is worse 5v5 and starts in the OZ almost more than any other defensemen

Chychrun is a top 4 dman in the league by cap and top 6 overall.