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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 9:58 p.m.
Thread:
Malkin gets wingers and Pens add size
You really really like Soucy, don’t you? Lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 9:51 p.m.
Thread:
Pay zat man Ionly some ofI his moneys
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nhldeadline2</b></div><div>I think getting Bob would be a big part of the deal for Buffalo in this little fairytale I've concocted lol. But that wouldn't be awful either, although I'm not sure Sabres want to retain for 4 years</div></div>
Probably not, but they have cap space to spare. They don’t have any major contracts to hand out until possibly 2-3 years down the line when Dahlin and Power comes up. But by that time they would get rid of Okposo, Hornqvist, Gudas contracts in this scenario.
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 8:59 p.m.
Thread:
Pay zat man Ionly some ofI his moneys
I doubt Bob waives for Buffalo, but if it was a 3team trade where Florida gets some scrub AHLer or prospect from the 3rd team in return and then Buffalo retains 3 million more on Bob to a contender they could probably get a 2nd or 3rd for him this year. Also probably do the same for Hornqvist cause I doubt Hornqvist would want to play for Buffalo, but with 50% retained by Buffalo they could probably get a 3rd. Gudas probably gets a 2nd or 3rd. To sum it up, at the very least they’d be getting three 3rds just to retain about 5 million cap. Which isn’t bad.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 6:51 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>Yeah, the guy that ignores Hallander and the 1st because they haven't played a game yet tells me that I am using EA Sports logic. You need to Google both "logic" and "strawman".</div></div>
I didn’t ignore them. They haven’t played a game for the team and possibly never will whether they are here or not. And even if they would, Hallander’s ceiling is a solid bottom 6 and a late first is likely a middle 6 player. Miller is a top line player that is a ppg + player and has positional flexibility. Poolman gives the team another veteran RHD. All for a guy that has played what? Like 80 games in 2.5 seasons with the pens, a prospect who has yet to play a game for the team and whose ceiling is bottom 6, a late 1st rounder that’s no guarantee, and a 2nd pair RHD who may get better but may not. But you stick to your ea logic while the rest of us know you have to give something up to get something.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 10:41 a.m.
Thread:
If Malkin Leaves
Carter isn’t getting traded, Kadri gets more than that, Letang would probably take less than that to stay with the pens if they are giving him a 5 year deal, they aren’t going to put an offer sheet on another teams RFA, and that defense is pretty bad, Matheson & Letang proved to be a bad pair together, Cole and Sully don’t like each other so no way he comes back
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 9:11 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>Also minus Hallander and a 1st, plus stuck with Poolman... and again, they can get Lyubushkin without any of the bad trades. You made a bad set of trades, not sure why you are mad at me about it.</div></div>
I’m not mad at all, hence why I’m laughing. You’re the one that seems quite angry. Must be because you have terrible takes 🤷♂️. Also Hallander and the first have yet to play a game for the pens and no guarantee they ever would if they keep those pieces. Unfortunately the league doesn’t go by EA logic where you can trade a bunch of bad players for 1 good one. So stick to the ea sports, kid
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 8:57 p.m.
Thread:
Interesting take on Pens offseason
Dumo isn’t a cap dump. Why are they paying to get rid of him? Contenders would pay for him and since the pens here have over 7 million in cap space, could get more from a contender by retaining. And no way they should bring Kessel back. He did his thing here but that ran its course.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 4:58 p.m.
Thread:
whats next after Rust
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Erne for Guentzel</div></div>
Only if you’re willing to throw in Bert too
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 4:02 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>I never said keep Marino. I sad don't overpay in trade for another player. You can still trade Marino elsewhere for something else. Just don't overpay.
You like lol's but are you laughing at what you are saying and how it is strawmaning the argument?</div></div>
I’m laughing at your hilariously awful takes 😂. The pens aren’t overpaying here. The pens are way better with Miller and Lyubushkin than they are with oft-injured Zucker and Marino
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 9:17 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>I noticed that I said Moran above. I would have zero problem trading Ian Moran and a 1st to Vancouver for Miller.
I would see Miller and Trocheck as "or" options, not "and". They are both centers. People have been suggesting moving Malkin to wing for years,but centers tend to be centers. Also, your trade is not upgrading Zucker to Miller. It is giving FAR too much for a very good player. (I like Miller)
You can still sign Lyubushkin and still have Marino, 1st, etc, etc. Heck, trade Marino for an actual "winger" and then you still have the 1st, etc.
Trocheck, Lyubushkin, actual top-6 "winger", 1st, Kapanen, etc.
People (mostly Vancouver fans) have a singular focus of a Miller/Marino based deal for some reason. Pittsburgh fans have seen it so many times on here that recently they have started doing it too. Amazingly they are almost all the same overall packages, copy/paste much? Some Pensfansare also blinded by adesire to move Zucker. You've managed to bring back a worse contract than Zucker while also retaining on Zucker.
Miller, Poolman for Zucker (-$2.75), Hallander, Marino, 1st <- While Miller is the best single piece of this deal, this is NOT a good deal for the Penguins overall. They are lesser after the trade than before.</div></div>
The difference between Malkin and Miller is that Miller also plays wing, Malkin doesn’t. Trocheck also plays wing too.
You can’t sign Lyubushkin and have Marino too because you do have to abide by the cap lol. Poolman’s contract isn’t bad lol it’s 2.3 million for a 3rd pair dman that can play 2nd pair for short periods of time. You can never have too many nhl capable dmen.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 4:43 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>Vancouver fans have been GROSSLY over-valuating their trade pieces for 6 months. The trade deadline AGMs for Boeser were insane, completely illogical. Now that they potentially understand that no one is touching Boeser they have moved on to over-valuating Miller instead. Miller is a very good player, but it is not like I am suggesting Ruhwedel or McGinn for him. Plus, I am consider more than just one year's "stats".
I could understand upping to Moran + 2nd instead of a 3rd. However, Marino and a 1st is too much, and Marino,1st, + is just ... no.
While Trocheck is not quite Miller, he is not that far off though, I would be perfectly happy signing him for 2C. The Pens would then still have Marino, 1st, Kapanen (or whatever was traded for Miller) to move to fill other spots, or just keep.</div></div>
So you’re good with signing Trocheck and moving in from Geno but you’re not ok with upgrading Zucker to Miller? That’s a weird take to me 🤷♂️ Lol.
Kapanen isn’t a guarantee, and Lyubushkin replaces Marino. Who is just as good, if not better defensively and more physical. So that would make Marino expendable. And Miller is a quality top line forward. It’s going to take quite a bit to get him and Marino, a 1st, Zucker, and a C+/B- prospect isn’t really that much. It would only be a lot if Miller was a rental but he’s not in this scenario.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 4:37 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cartersNo1</b></div><div>I’m sorry are we forgetting rhuwedel and friedman. They were solid as a bottom pair, but I still think they could use one more depth dman. I liked lybushkin when I watched him. But I think one of them will work</div></div>
I think ruh and Friedman are better rotational guys than everyday guys. I don’t think you can have too many decent defensemen.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 2:23 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Maybe. Id be willing to bet both Geno and Letang come back.
Ya, I could see them trading Kappy. And maybe one of Dumo/Pettersson.
Ohh this is definitely a completely different team and no way there are this many changes. Just saying. I don’t think the ideas are that bad. Just the likelihood is low.</div></div>
Mehhh I don’t see it as a completely different team. 6 players are different than the previous year. But there are a million free agents so if any year has a lot of change, this would be the one. But really the only 2 major changes is Geno and Marino out, Trocheck and Miller in.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:30 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>Miller, Poolman for Zucker (-$2.75), Hallander, Marino, 1st
What holy mess is this?
No 1st with Marino for Miller
If you are going to retain om Zucker there is zero reason to trade him. He is point production issues but he is a very good hockey player. Cap relief is the only reason to move him so retaining 50% makes it moot.
Poolman $2.5Mx3 <<<< Zucker $5.5Mx1
Pens offer:
Miller for Marino, 3rd</div></div>
You go to any Canucks fan with that offer and see how you get ripped for that. Miller is a top line center/winger. Marino is a solid top 4 RHD that would become expendable with Lyubushkin, who would probably be a great fit with Matheson. Zucker is better than Poolman for sure, but the pens need a 3rd d pairing and extra D lol. And most pens/Canucks fans have Miller and Myers for Marino, Kappy, and a 1st. I’d rather not have Myers cap hit. And just an fyi, Zucker at 50% retained is still a bigger cap hit than Poolman 🤷♂️
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:26 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Damn man. Talk about a rebuild. Lol.
Has any team ever even made 4 offseason trades b4?? Let alone 4 somewhat major deals..?
Most likely they resign Letang to 3-5 years. And Geno to 2-3 years and make another run with Sid.
I would love for them to trade one of Dumoulin or Petterson though and resign Rakell for that 4M per. And love for MAF to come back and retire in PGH as well. I think that 2.5M per is more than fair too. Especially since he’ll be splitting time with Jarry and already got his bag.
I don’t think McGinn is going anywhere though. And I think E-Rod walks and gets paid and better opportunity elsewhere.
And I think Kappy and Heinen both get around 2.5M per in RFA. I could see Kappy getting traded though and one of OConnor, Puustinen, Zohorna, Poulin, Nylander gets a shot on that 3rd line.</div></div>
How would this be a rebuild? It’s practically the same team except an upgrade from Zucker to Miller on the 2LW. And it’s arguable to say all 4 are somewhat major. McGinn is a bottom 6 player. Maybe can say Dumo and petty trades are somewhat major. Only major trade I see is the Vancouver one.
If ERod gets more then good for him but I just don’t see it. He had a putrid second half production wise. Plus he says he really loves it here and wants to stay.
I can’t see Geno staying. He said he was joking when saying he was a rich guy. He will take the money elsewhere. Plus Trocheck is just a better fit honestly. This new ownership has no loyalty to these players. I think Letang would likely stay if he gets a 5 year deal around what he is making now.
I believe Nylander is waiver eligible now so I think they trade Kappy to give him a shot.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:19 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cartersNo1</b></div><div>Where is smitty he was amazing over The last stretch</div></div>
You talking about desmith? You’d rather have him over flower? I think DeSmith played solid down the stretch but would rather have flower. With Jarry still being a playoff unknown. Plus flower would be trusted with more starts to take the load off Jarry.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:18 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ceeque84</b></div><div>7 yrs would be the max allowable term to resign Miller. And it is also not allowed anymore to negotiate resigning before trade is made.</div></div>
8 years is the max. 7 years is max if it is with a UFA that played with a different team the prior year. Since his extension doesn’t kick in until next year, pens can sign to an 8 year deal. And I’ve not heard that they’ve changed the rules on teams allowing others to negotiate extensions for players they intend to trade for.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 1:14 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devsfan25</b></div><div>Rather just keep Graves. Value definitely there but think we just keep Graves</div></div>
Fair enough 👍
Forum:
Vancouver Canucks
Sat. at 9:18 p.m.
Thread:
Rust comparable for jt miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>I agree miller being a centre adds AAV. So does his leadership role (wears an “A”), plus his PK responsibilities and he lead the team in scoring.
However, their pure point totals aren’t too far off, and Rust actually score more goals. I think adding 2.5-3 million to rusts deal compensates miller for his added responsibilities and higher skill.
That would still put him somewhere between 7.75-8.25 on a 6 year deal, which is less than what many have been speculating</div></div>
Rust also plays pk and pp so I mean that isn’t a different responsibility for Miller. But Miller still gets more. Rust definitely took a team friendly deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 9:13 p.m.
Thread:
Rust extension
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Yeah just saw that, i thought Pen fans said he wanted 6 x 6 to stay. That's actually a pretty good deal for the Pens.</div></div>
I think everyone kinda figured that considering how much was expected he could get on the open market.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 9:05 p.m.
Thread:
Rust extension
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Bryan Rust and Vincent Trocheck both get more money than what you are offering them.
Jeff Carter isn't waiving his NMC for Seattle.
Blues can't afford Kapanen and Pettersson, Pittsburgh would need to take Marco Scandella back at least.
Anderson for Marino is a major downgrade for the Pens.</div></div>
Rust reportedly agreed to a 6 year deal for 5.2 million per year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 1:38 p.m.
Thread:
Day dream GM
Swap Poulin and Zucker for Kapanen and Miller comes with an extension in place and it’s a deal. Otherwise pens decline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread:
uh-oh HuGo took dmt before the draft and got a little funky
The pens easily decline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19 at 5:59 p.m.
Thread:
A new era
Not bad if Miller agrees to an extension. Only I would sign Letang to a 5 year 7-7.5 per year contract instead of Klingberg, not waste 3+ on Mikheyev because Zohorna, O’Connor, and Nylander should all be up taking bottom 6 spots. I’d look to maybe trade Dumo for a decent middle 6 winger instead (a team like Florida could use a LHD). As good of a line as Miller-Crosby-Guentzel would make, I could see Trocheck being the top line RW and Miller being the 2C in this scenario. Either way it’s a great top line in my opinion.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19 at 3:38 p.m.
Thread:
Burns to pens again
Pens wouldn’t even do Marino for Burns straight up, much less add Blueger. Marino contract > Burns contract, Marino’s age > Burns age, Marino’s speed > Burns speed, Marino’s defense > Burns defense. The only thing Burns has on Marino is offensive capability. If the pens were to take on Burns, it wouldn’t be for Marino. It would be to replace Letang because Letang walks. However if that were the case, the pens would just sign Letang to a similar contract and length of Burns because Letang is better in every facet than Burns is.
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