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Toronto Maple Leafs
14 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cnC53OGW8Q4
This fan gets it
Like I will leave it with this imagine your the new CEO of MLSE, you call Shanahan in and go okay so the Matthews era or Shanaplan has resulted in 1 playoff series win what seems to be the issue. Well sir we recently cant seem to score more than 2 goals in 9 of our last 10 playoff games. So okay we cant score more than 2 goals but we are paying 4 FORWARDS a total of $46.65m or slightly more than 50% of this teams cap combined
Thats correct sir.
<img class="for_img" src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg" alt="jiFfM.jpg"></div></div>
Wow. I havent seen that meme in nearly a decade
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Armchair-GM
15 hours ago
Thread:
Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeclanLovesHockey</b></div><div>https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/toronto-maple-leafs/line-combinations - top pair is typically the pair at the top, correct?</div></div>
If you think a lineup card denotes usage. You're opinion on anything hockey is worthless
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Armchair-GM
16 hours ago
Thread:
Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Liljegren just turned 25. Sandin was 22 at the time of the trade. Shows your hockey knowledge there.
Liljegren play top 4 minutes, but boy is he bad in those minutes. Sandin was mostly playing bottom pairing minutes, but he was good in those</div></div>
Sandy and Lily are currently the same age. Pay attention.
And Lily has been good in T-4 mins. Thinking otherwise shows your lack of knowledge
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Armchair-GM
16 hours ago
Thread:
Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeclanLovesHockey</b></div><div>Yeah he plays top 4 mins on a team that uses Ilya Lyubushkin as a top pairing defenseman... Where he plays in the lineup is irrelevant, the fact of the matter is he just isn't as good as we need a top 4 dman to be on this team and he's not gonna magically improve into one. This is coming from a guy who likes Lilly and wishes we could sign him to a 4 x 2.5 AAV. His skillset is a dime a dozen: pretty good offensively, ok defensively, not that physical. Only thing that is valuable is his right shot.</div></div>
Boosh is not being played as a top pair D lmao. That you even think that shows you have no idea what you're talking about
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Armchair-GM
18 hours ago
Thread:
Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeclanLovesHockey</b></div><div>The problem is that Liljegren is in no mans land between a good third pairing dman and a mediocre second pairing dman. I don't see his ceiling being much higher than that. The Leafs can't afford to pay him second pair money when he's giving us third pair results. The 2nds can be used to make a cost-effective TDL move or draft talent like Knies, who becomes cap-controlled on an ELC. To use your metaphor, we would have to overpay for a leaky boat when we could jump ship and swim a short distance to several sturdier, cheaper boats.</div></div>
The dude is keefes most played D when we are trying to hold a lead, and also while were trailing. He also has been putting up strong results.
I think the issue here is just that your eval is off lmao
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Armchair-GM
18 hours ago
Thread:
Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>There’s one huge reason, age. Liljegren is 25 while Sandin was 22. Both are pretty much the same talent, but Sandin can actually develop in something more. Liljegren won’t improve unless there’s a massive surprise. The best trade comp is Siegenthaler to New Jersey for a third, so Toronto would be lucky to get a late second for him</div></div>
Theyre like the same age lmao.
And Lily is actually playing top 4 mins. While sandy at the trade was only a 3rd pair D
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 12:01 a.m.
Thread:
Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MontysPython</b></div><div>a vet RHD with playoff experience`\/(••)\/`</div></div>
And why would we need to move Liljegren for that exactly?
And more importantly, why wouldn't we just make that swap directly? Either in a 2 or 3 team deal?
It simply doesn't make sense. We need a boat. We have a boat and you're offering the mystery box
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 11:57 p.m.
Thread:
Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MontysPython</b></div><div>flip the picks?</div></div>
For what? A young RHD?
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 11:53 p.m.
Thread:
Too Many Nose Nukes Tonight
This Liljegren trade is a prime example of people undervaluing players just because they're Leafs.
How does he get LESS than Sandin did? Even if you think they're about equal talent wise, being a puck moving RHD should increase his value over what Sandy got (28th overall pick)
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 11:49 p.m.
Thread:
Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeclanLovesHockey</b></div><div>As much as I love Lilly leafs would be stupid not to accept that</div></div>
Can't see any reason Lily would be worth less than Sandy. Being right handed should mean a better return.
Would look like:
2 early 2nds (top 40), both in same year
late 1st + late 2nd (dif years)
Besides, it isn't just a value issue. Why would the Leafs do this? How does this help them? We have been looking for RHD for years and now you want to jettison the homegrown one for picks?
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Yesterday at 7:13 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>If Toronto would just work on that LRT then man the stadium possibilities would be endless. As then if you had proper transportation could have it almost anywhere within reason</div></div>
Heavy rail is so much better than light rail it isn't even funny - particularly within Toronto. Putting it in Union makes the most sense, but elsewhere along the line works too. Maybe build exhibition out into a full station and put a new Arena right there.
It allows you to use the current network, but also expand outside of Toronto.
Toronto's big advantage over every other NA city is GO. We need to use it as much as possible (in everything)
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Yesterday at 7:06 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Wouldnt mind somewhere outside downtown but like not in the outskirts of Whoville</div></div>
No. Downtown next to the train station is a must
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Yesterday at 7:02 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>No I remember Masai interfering with the board when it comes to it at times. Was a factor in why Rogers didnt want him back lul. Now he doesnt have a choice due to economy but before he made sure we didnt see Raptors tickets become Leaf tickets.
But he has discussed it before "It's above me, but it's also concerning my team, so yes we have 100% input in this, and we have to look at market prices everywhere in the NBA and in our market. We have to consider our fans too. It's been looked at in every way possible"
I think if u had a Leafs president who complained enough you would see better prices. Not super affordable but not what were currently seeing. Heck maybe the new MLSE CEO will go to the board and say look we need better prices for the fans as we need a new culture here not just business snoozefest topia lul
Lets see cause if this keeps up eventually TOR seats will just be filled with black suits and ties and briefcases by 2027 100% lul</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Raptors tickets are just more affordable and that's fact because I have been to at least 1 Raptors game a year. You wouldn't catch me at a Leafs game because the ticket prices sky high.
It has nothing to do with Masai but everything to do with greed. MLSE knows they can charge whatever for Leafs tickets and get away with it...it's not quite the same with the Raptors.</div></div>
The Leafs need to look into building a new arena (ideally right beside the current one) or rebuilding the ACC to increase capacity. They could easily push 30k, keep their high priced seats and have more reasonable nosebleeds.
I dream of a time where someone living in London can grab a round trip Go train (need to have them run late enough to go home) and see a Leafs game for about $150.
The rebuild plan would be multiple years of construction so they'd need to start working on a temporary home now where they can play for a few years that isn't a Coyotes situation. No fewer than 16k ideally. Does anyone know how large Hamilton's new arena is? I know the Bulldogs have moved out to brantford while its being built.
Edit:
Hamilton looks like the answer. God bless Tim Leiweke https://venuesnow.com/280-million-hamilton-arena-project-takes-shape/
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Wed. at 10:55 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Alright you are very much one of those guys that only see what he wants to see.</div></div>
No I just actually know how to intelligently watch a hockey game.
I told yall about Cowen and you didnt believe me for example
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Wed. at 9:58 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>That was one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen. Totally winnable...</div></div>
Its not close to the worst game youve seen lmao.
It was excruciatingly winnable tho and we blew it.
Yes the refs ****ed us, but we put ourselves in a spot to get ****ed by them
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Wed. at 9:56 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>He's looked better tonight. Give it up</div></div>
No he didnt. Watch the game
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Wed. at 9:04 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Lol</div></div>
Congrats. He makes one good play and continues to be ****. Real great man
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Wed. at 8:40 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>That was a nice play by him on that goal lol!</div></div>
Glad he finally did something. When he is on, hes unstoppable
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Wed. at 8:33 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Mitch has been awful. Again</div></div>
Theres the Mitch i know and love. Great pass
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Wed. at 8:21 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
Mitch has been awful. Again
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Tue. at 7:33 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Alright, but this isn't the last 7 years, it's this year and it's been 2 games, one of which we won. Settle down with the Marner hate.</div></div>
If he starts playing well, absolutely.
It is literally the only thing I want.
If not, i dont care if we win - we need to talk about moving him
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Tue. at 7:17 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>So when he figures out the playoffs, do you want that to be for the leafs or anyone else after your trade him for Crouse straight up because that's the cool thing to do on here?</div></div>
Its been 8 years. We have given him plenty of time to figure it out. This isnt a young kid anymore
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Tue. at 6:29 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Maybe who knows. As you mentioned though a win is a win. The over the top Marner hate that's still going on now is hilariously stupid.</div></div>
Its because he is bad 5 of 6 years in the playoffs. To steal a basketball term, he can be played off the court. For a player as good as him, taking up a critical amount of space - that is a huge issue
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Tue. at 4:58 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>So we're going to pick and play issues
We could point to other guys making similar plays if we doing that but who cares they won
The whole JT line has been meh. That line looked great with McMann and no disrespect to Knies but yea he was more noticeable on the 4th line
Kevin pappetti tweet says it all lul</div></div>
Yes were going to pick individual plays, because Mitch is on the wrong end of a ton of them and isnt providing any meaningful value.
He is a liability
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Tue. at 4:49 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Fine is not good enough. If the Leafs want to have tangible playoff success, Marner has to be way better than fine.
When you make 10-11 sheets a year, that comes with added responsibilities, added pressures and yeah he's going to get critiqued moreso than the non core players.
He pits the media and fans as if what people say control his play. Go out and play, show why you're a top player in this league WHEN IT MATTERS.
Matthews really brought it in way last night that I haven't seen before and it refreshing to see. Good on him!</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I know people using stats to attack Marner dont
The moment we see Ilya Lybushkin second in XGF shoot em into the sun
Marner's been fine this series. He's taking on the defensive assignments, he's been fine, dont be silly
If he was taking stupid penalties all through both game 1 and 2 fine but he's not.
Once Willy comes back everyone should start clicking as then the responsibility will lessen
As for the whole trade thing. Just wait for JT to go. There's the cap space. Marner comes back 1.1m raise and the remaining 9.9m can be used on a 2c and other area's</div></div>
Yeah, have you guys seen <a href="https://twitter.com/J_Swish24/status/1782576656403906813?t=GfYgFq2RPIvojMCVlYUKfg&s=19" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">this</a> ****?
This isnt a stats issue. This is outright a Marner issue
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