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Forum: Armchair-GM23 hours ago
Thread: Horvat signing Palmieri trade futures
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>You can't offer Bo Horvat 8 years, Since it wasn't a sign and trade. You can only offer him 7 years.</div></div>

That is incorrect.

As long as the team trades for a player and/or their rights, and did not sign them as a UFA during FA, then they can sign them to a 8 year extension. They took on the entirety of that contract when they made the trade.

It doesn't need to be a strict sign and trade. Not in this instance. That is why GM's trade for players rights before FA hits.

The 7 year maximum contract ruling only applies if a player is signed as a UFA and coming from a different team. Since Horvat is going to be on their roster by seasons end the Isles can extend him to an 8 year contract.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 6:20 p.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>First of all, he didn't perform the incorrect surgery, so I have no idea how that makes him anything. Secondly, there have been zero problems with the shoulder since it was correctly fixed. Thing the third, it was two separate injuries, no clue where you go three from. Finally, it's interesting how you carved five years specifically, seeing as how he was one of the most durable wingers in the entire league up until that point. So yeah, exactly none of these rationalizations = injury prone. That's simply not what it means, at all.</div></div>

2 Separate Shoulder Surgeries + 1 Broken Hand = 3 Injuries total over the last 5 years.

Only 10 games played in 2020.

And only 24 games played in 2021.

Since 2020 he's played only 144 games. Even accounting for and during the two pandemic shortened seasons he only played 34 games during those two years.

He has missed a massive amount of time in the last 3 years, he absolutely qualifies as injury prone. And at age 30 he is a extremely high-risk candidate for further issues. Whether he can stay healthy enough to stay on the ice is a legitimate concern for any GM potentially looking at trading for him or signing him long-term.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 5:53 p.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Minnesota's not doing that, dude.





Use a little phrase integrity. One FUBAR shoulder op situation and one dumb luck shot hitting his hand over a decade + does not = "injury prone". That's not at all what it means.</div></div>

The incident with the hand happens all the time in the NHL, if it's not Tarasenko... it's someone else. Is it a freak accident, yes. But they do happen. And far more frequently then fans care to admit.

But that shoulder FUBAR situation revolves around him not have one but TWO separate shoulder surgeries. The 2nd of them causing such a disconnect and divide between player and organization that he has openly had a trade demand and desire to be moved for the last year and a half.

If it were just the one surgery I'd agree with you, but he's missed a large amount of time or had issues with THREE separate injuries in the past 5 years.

Sorry, but that makes him injury prone.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 5:36 p.m.
Thread: Send them home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NV94</b></div><div>Lots of writers just make stuff up. Plus you never even gave me a quote from Russo saying they won’t go after Boeser.

I don’t think Boeser to Minnesota makes sense either but I’m not going to pretend to know what the GM is thinking and state my opinion as fact. And even then GMs change their minds all the time. Unless you’re the GM how would you know anything? So like I said, quit acting like your opinion is fact since you don’t know what the GM is thinking</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NV94</b></div><div>I don’t care what a beat writer says. GM quote or it’s all hearsay. I don’t care for Boeser to Wild either, doesn’t mean it’s 100% not happening.

But cry more 👍</div></div>

"A GM quote or it's all hearsay..."

Wow, a nationally syndicated and well known beat-writer/insider who covers the Wild isn't enough for you.

Russo's voice and insider sources carries as much or more weight in the league as Friedman or LeBrun. But you'll accept only the word of someone who would never openly speak about such things because of league tampering rules.

But okay.

Just, wow.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 5:28 p.m.
Thread: Send them home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NV94</b></div><div>Lots of writers just make stuff up. Plus you never even gave me a quote from Russo saying they won’t go after Boeser. </div></div>

Here's just one of the many times he's spoken about it.

"Russo: To echo Joe, “He’d better find one.” And Guerin admits he’s looking, which means the Wild could be looking for a rental well earlier than trade-deadline season. Nic Petan and Gaudreau played with Boldy on Thursday night. That’s not sustainable, period, nor is it fair to Boldy, who has to feel like a man on an island right now — similar to how Fiala had to feel for a few years before Boldy arrived.

The problem is the Wild need to re-sign Boldy, Addison, Steel and surely Gaudreau and make sure they can re-sign Kaprizov entering the final year of his five-year deal in two years. And he’ll name his price. So for the same reason the Wild got rid of Fiala, they may have to go the rental route because they may not be able to afford a hefty carryover contract. Horvat’s perfect, but for the haul they’d have to give up, it’s hard to see them being willing if they won’t be able to re-sign him. <strong>So maybe it’s a reasonable deal for someone like Duclair? Kane or Jonathan Toews could be a fantasy. Sean Monahan is out there, but the Wild could have acquired him umpteen times and haven’t. Same with Boeser.</strong>"
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 4:09 p.m.
Thread: NYI Deadline Sellers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>It’s realistic that Parise would want to play for a contender assuming he won’t be back with the isles. He still has a lot left in the tank, I don’t think the isles not wanting to re-sign him will force him to retire</div></div>

Does Parise want to win, sure. He will put it all on the line all day every day for whichever team he plays for.

But I watched Parise for in part of 9 seasons and listened to enough interviews and read enough articles about the guy to know 2 things for certain.

1) While he wants to win, it's not the end all be all for him. He would rather play for teams that have some sort of emotional significance or attachment to them for him than those that he doesn't have any ties to.

He was willing to sign in Minnesota, strictly because he was from here. We were not contenders at the time and were the farthest thing from that while he was here.

The Isles interested him for two reasons. A) His father, JP, played for the Isles back in the day. And B) Lou is the guy that drafted him in NJ and was/is the current Isles GM.

The only other team that he would likely have ties to currently is probably the Flyers because of Chuck Fletcher. Parise is the type of guy who would be more willing to get traded to Philadelphia then to a cup contender that he has no ties to.

Because the name of the game with him, is comfort. Not a cup. He's just simply not a cup chaser like Marleau was.

2) Parise has *some* gas left in the tank. But he isn't a fit for most teams in the NHL anymore due to his lack of general foot speed these days. He's slower now than he was even just a few years ago.

That's, obviously, not his fault. Father time is undefeated after all.

But the entire reason he was bought out in Minnesota is that he couldn't keep up with the play. As Minnesota was transitioning from one of the oldest teams in the league and among the slowest, to become league average in both age and footspeed.

Parise works so well on the Isles because that team is both one of the oldest and slowest teams in the league.

If he were to play for say the Avs, Canes, or maybe Boston. There's no real chance he'd be able to keep up. He be a stride or more behind everyone else, thereby making him an useless acquisition.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 3:28 p.m.
Thread: NYI Deadline Sellers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>he's worth a 2nd, why wouldnt he go anywhere else?</div></div>

Dude, he would only entertain the thought of potentially waiving his NMC to go to the Isles while still in Minnesota. It was the only place he was willing to go to.

After being bought out by Guerin. Zach proceeded to talk to ONE team about his next contract, the Isles and Lou. He didn't talk with any other team or show interest in playing anywhere else. Parise has had a long career, and goes to play wherever he wants.

He's going to finish his career in NY, because that's where he wants to finish it. And for as long as Lou remains the GM, Parise will get to do that.

The only reason Parise will get moved will be if Lou gets fired, and his replacement either trades Parise or if Parise retires.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:16 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:10 p.m.
Thread: Before deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bogdown</b></div><div>Horrible for the Canucks. Minnesota doesn’t make sense as a Horvat landing spot imo. Klimovich looks like an absolute stud right now and Horvat is worth more than that</div></div>

Horvat is worth nowhere near that.

A career 60 point 2nd line center having a career year in his age 28 season is not worth half of what Canuncks fans think he is. They pulled the same crap with JT Miller last season saying he should get an Eichel level return and how did that work out for them again?

But more importantly, Minnesota isn't...

A) Moving Foligno in a Horvat trade.

B) Moving Middleton in a Horvat trade.

C) Moving its #1 Prospect in Rossi for a pure rental in a Horvat trade.

Also, saying Klimovich is a stud is a bit much, he's having a really good season down in the AHL with Abbotsford. But I wouldn’t call him a stud.

Klimovich: 9 goals, 11 assists, 20 points in 36 games played in the AHL this year.

Rossi: 8 goals, 14 assists, 22 points in 21 games played in the AHL this year.

In short, Rossi has played 15 less games in the AHL than Klimovich due to starting out in the NHL this year and has 1 less goal, 3 more assists, and 2 more points. Despite having played roughly half as many games.

Tell me again which one qualifies as a stud?
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 3:53 p.m.
Thread: Canucks TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Guerin isn't trading Lambos for a player he has zero chance of resigning in Bo Horvat, Plus that offer will be beaten by whoever acquires Horvat.</div></div>

That *offer*

Includes a legitimate top-four two-way defenseman who currently ranks among the 95th percentile for defenders across the league THIS year, albeit a UFA as well. A 24 year old goaltender who has led the entire league in both GAA and Save % since November. A 1st round prospect that is considered a top A-level prospect who teams don't move for rentals. And a 1st round pick in the deepest draft since 2015.

For two rentals who are UFA after the seasons over. One of which is needlessly being retained when no retention is necessary.

I guarantee there isn't a single offer that beats that. Not one.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22 at 11:37 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22 at 4:17 p.m.
Thread: Its time
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nightowl26</b></div><div>The 8-9 players you are referring to are
Reaves, Ryan
Gaudreau, Frédérick
Steel, Sam
Duhaime, Brandon
Shaw, Mason
Dumba, Matt -- You guys are definitely dealing him at the deadline. So you are gonig to save money here as well.
Gustavsson, Filip - You have your stud Goalie who I heard should be ready next year.
Addison, Calen

To me, I'm taking Nelson at 6M instead of these players (forwards) you have to possibly sign.</div></div>

Before last night's game Gustavsson led the league in GAA and save %, and has done so since mid November.

You're an idiot if you think the team moves on from him.

What's better for the Wild's goaltending situation?

Moving a legitimate 24 year old 1B goaltender and waiting on a 20 year old goalie to play next year when he’s ready, and keep the 38 year old HOF'er as well. But is gone after next season.

OR

Keeping the 24 year old 1B goaltender. Let your 38 year old HOF'er play out the last year of his contract. And overbake your stud 20 year old goaltending prospect and have him wait an extra year.

Then have a truly terrifying 1A/1B goaltending tandem that will give opposing teams fits for the next 10+ years.

I got news for you, it ain't the one where the 24 year old 1B gets moved.