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Armchair-GM
Mar. 7 at 5:21 p.m.
Thread:
Who would you rather have
None.
None have cap control after this season and will likely cost a decent/good future(s). If they have any of the 3 on the roster the Canucks still likely don’t make it out of the West, decent chance they don’t even make it out of the second round.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 7 at 5:16 p.m.
Thread:
Locked In
You over the cap, you gave up all your futures, and you still probably don’t beat Vegas.
Big no from Vancouver.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 7 at 11:06 a.m.
Thread:
Guentzel AND Toffoli
Van shouldn’t pay any more futures for additional pieces, unless they come with significant cap control. I don’t see any world where they beat the VGK after their recent additions. It’s going to be hard to make it past the 2nd round.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 1:53 a.m.
Thread:
If VAN is truly all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>Feel like that's overblown. He's 49% on the faceoff this year.
Miki isn't PKing. What is he offering without Petey centering him? He can go. Laff easily fills his skates and more.</div></div>
I think Miki has played fairly well all season. If Miller's line is going to be a matchup line then I would like to see Miki tried more on it. He's a great two way player with speed, I think he would fit well.
As for Petey I don't think 49% is terrible by anymeans, however in the playoffs everything is amplified. If the Canucks could turn out 4 centers with over 50% winning percentage that would be a solid advantage. Henrique is also a solid offensive player, a line of Him with EP and Buch would be a very dangerous line.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 1:49 a.m.
Thread:
If VAN is truly all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>All four trades will never happen at the Trade Deadline.</div></div>
That provides absolutely no clarity on how they are "horrendous".
You like to talk a lot on this site, but like most of the talkers you post non of your own AGM's involving any trades of significance. If you think these trades "would never happen" and are "horrendous", let's see you post an AGM with VAN making moves to go all in, IE some significant moves. I have a feeling you would be absolutely torn apart.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 1:45 a.m.
Thread:
If VAN is truly all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>If Lekkerimaki is in the Buch deal, Kuz gotta go too. Hell, I'd probably go as far as saying Miki too.
Henrique-Miller-Boeser
Buch-EP-Laff
DJ-TB-Gar
Hog-Suter-Maroon</div></div>
Blues could be an option to take Kuz to. I would hope with retentions that Miki could stay on the roster or that would be a big hit to their overall top end depth, which I think is super important if they want to go far in the playoffs.
I like Henrique with EP due to his skills at faceoffs and Petey's lack thereof.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 1:37 a.m.
Thread:
If VAN is truly all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>Don't get me wrong, Buch is great. I would love to add him. But, Lekkerimaki and Willander wouldn't be included. I'm sure some Blues fans would say that's a must have.
I'd be okay with the first, Pod, Brz and maybe 3rd/4th. Move off Kuz in a separate deal to make the money work and gain back a draft pick.
I struggle with the Henrique deal on top of Buch. Suter is comparable with his play this season. Recently, his all situation play has been stellar. Not to mention Hog has earned top 6 5v5 ice time.
If I were to trade for Henrique, it would be a 2nd + a prospect. Again, could flip Kuz and get back a pick and allow the cap to work.
Not moving Big Z in any deal.</div></div>
I agree with you on the Blues deal, if they would take Brz instead of Lekkerimaki I do that all day, not sure if it's enough to get the deal done though. If this team is <strong>truly all in</strong> then they have to make those tough decisions to add a difference maker to their top 6. At least with Buch he's got two years on his team friendly deal.
I am a big fan of Suter he is far better than a 4th line player but if the Canucks make a run there will be inquires and Suter would be a luxury they could move around the lineup, cup teams have good depth. I think adding Henrique is a solid trade that helps the lack of top end depth, if the team is <strong>truly all in</strong>. He would round out the second line and could be used to take faceoffs (53.4%) on a line with Petey (487%).
I don't think Kuz is returning anything of tangible value at this point. If he is moved it's likely to a non playoff team that wants to take a bet that he returns to better form next season, which is why I included him here but it could be to any team. I don't think he returns anything higher than a 4th round pick though, maybe a late 3rd but I think even that is doubtful. So essentially I see the Henrique trade as being 2nd round pick (Zadorov value), prospect in Raaty. Honestly, I think that could be light with almost 3M in retention.
Just to be clear, I don't necessarily think the Canucks should be all in, but if they truly are I think this rounds out their roster nicely and is probably about the cost to acquire the assets they are going to need. If they are <strong>truly all in</strong>, some pieces they don't want to move will have to be moved.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 1:11 a.m.
Thread:
If VAN is truly all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>Being all in doesn't mean overpaying (Buch and Henrique).</div></div>
What do you think the cost to acquire those players are?
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 1:10 a.m.
Thread:
If VAN is truly all in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>TBH, VCR is not going all in just looking at these horrendous trades.</div></div>
What's "horrendous" about them? If Buch is available he's returning a 1st and solid prospect at worst, Tanev is at least a late 2nd (with retention more), Henrique is at least a 2nd which is probably what VAN could get for Zadorov if they flip him then the Ducks are also retaining almost 3M. I think all the values here are fair.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 1:02 a.m.
Thread:
Modifying the ECUPirate Cap Dump Idea
I have to think the cost to move Campbell is higher than that, even at 1.5 retained. Broberg isn't a can't miss prospect and the 2nd isn't for another two years.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 12:41 a.m.
Thread:
Best team in franchise history
Not better than the 2011 team (when it was healthy).
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 12:39 a.m.
Thread:
Zadorov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Easy pass Canucks.
Zadorov is untouchable and he's not available.</div></div>
That is throwing the word, "untouchable" around to way to easily. Few players, if any in the league (other than players with NMC'c), are truly "untouchable", and Zadorov is certainly not one of them. With that said, I agree that the Canucks turn down this offer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 30 at 12:26 a.m.
Thread:
Lets goooo
I think I was the first person to start posting JEK trades awhile back (even though I know he's likely unavailable), so I am obviously a big fan of his. With that said, IF he was available this offer is from from what it would take to acquire him.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread:
Flames retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>I like lindholm as a 2C. However, unfortunately for Calgary, he's having a very down year and wants a boatload on his next deal. on the flipside, playing in their favour is the lack of available centers.
If they can get a desperate team to overpay, or a bidding war to start, they could get a very good haul.
As of right now Montreal is helping calgary out by overpricing Monahan. When apparently Monahan costs a 1st, 1st+2nd+Prospect for Elias Lindholm doesn't seem to bad. I don't know what the market is on Henrique but if Anaheim wants a 1st it'll help Calgary a ton. idk who else is on the market as a rental. Wennberg maybe?</div></div>
Lindholm is having a down year, however his best offensive years came when he played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk, I think many C's would have inflated stats when playing between those two players. Last year was the first year since he went to CAL where he didn't get to play with either of those players and his numbers dropped fairly significantly (dropped 18 points), and this year he's on pace for about 10 less points than last tear.
It's within the realm of possibility that CAL gets a strong overpay for Lindholm, but I still doubt its more than what Vancouver got for Horvat last season. I heard an insider say the other day that some insiders think there might not be as many teams buying big this deadline as there aren't a bunch of clear favourites as contenders, it will be interesting to see how that plays out. As for MON, teams often start high with their ask and then drop it closer to deadline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread:
Flames retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Lindholm this year: 31 points
Horvat pre trade last year: 31 goals</div></div>
Yup! I think he must have realized he was mistaken, as he choose not to bite the hook I casted on my last comment.
Lindholm is a good player and one I wouldn't at all mind if VAN acquires, however he would be a 3C on more teams currently in the playoffs than he would be a 2C. League wide he's a decent-pretty good 2C, but he certainly doesn't have the value Horvat did last season.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 1:00 p.m.
Thread:
Gearing up for a run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Canucks are not accepting the second deal.
It’s a waste and we don’t need O’Reilly.
It would make sense if Canucks trade Hunter and a couple of draft picks to NSH in exchange for Tomas Novak.
Moving on.</div></div>
Ok, Mr Rutherford.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread:
Smart moves
Trade is to light for Tanev, especially with half retention.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 12:47 p.m.
Thread:
Gearing up for a run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Brzustewicz is having a great season, but I don't think he suddenly has the value of a 1st rounder now. If you really feel he does, would you swap him out of your proposal for Willander?
The picks and Brzustewicz are nice pieces, but they are quantity over quality ones, for what O'Reilly brings to the Preds. Plus Novak is hardly a throw in either.</div></div>
Not for O'Rielly I wouldn't. There are tiers of value within the first round and Brzustewicz wouldn't fall into the same tier as Willander, Willander is the more valuable piece.
I think both your guys assessments are fair though, in the sense that the value is on the light side for the Preds.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28 at 11:55 a.m.
Thread:
Gearing up for a run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>herzausstein</b></div><div>Nashville isnt giving you their 1C for spare parts.</div></div>
Brzustewicz is easily a 1st rounder if last years draft was redone, 2nd round pick is also a good asset. If O'Reilly was younger I would 100% agree with you, but he's not and I think his 4 year contract holds significant risk for decline. I do think the trade could be a light though and another piece would probably need to be added.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 27 at 9:09 p.m.
Thread:
Flames retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>It's terrible. A very late 1st for a 1st line center isn't even close. Hoglander isn't worth much and Calgary would have no interest in adding a small 4th line left shot winger who's RFA after next season anyhow.
Lindholm is better than Horvat and Raty is both bigger and was considered a far better prospect when that trade was made than Hoglander ever was.
In addition Lindholm is a good 1st line RW. Putting him on the 1st PP as the extra forward (lining up on D) would make it scary good.
And before you bring it up, no it doesn't matter if Lindholm would centering the 2nd line in Vancouver. He maybe not be an elite superstar 1st line center who can pile up lots of points regardless of who he plays with but he's still a good two way 1st line center.</div></div>
So tell me then, if this is a "terrible" offer, then what would be a fair offer from Vancouver? Keeping in mind of course that a "terrible" offer is no where close to being close in value.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 27 at 9:08 p.m.
Thread:
Flames retool
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 27 at 7:20 p.m.
Thread:
Flames retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>1. No, not even close.
2. No. Remove the Calgary 5th, add a Toronto 3rd and you might have something. Or it might take a 2nd instead of a 3rd just because it's Toronto and Treliving.
3. Maybe, Calgary probably want's a good prospect instead of the two late 2nds.
4. Maybe</div></div>
"1. Not even close." - That's a very solid offer. Lindholm is a worse version of Horvat and Horvat when for a 1st, worse young player and a cap dump.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 27 at 6:25 p.m.
Thread:
Canucks blockbuster
It's an interesting proposal. As a Vancouver fan I'm not totally against a package like this, but I do think the cost is a bit high when the trade is broken down. We lack a second line, and here your essentially getting a second line, and at a pretty decent cap hit. O'Reilly's term worries me at his age, though the Canucks are in a win now mode so maybe they consider it... I think Barrie would need to be taken out and probably a pick.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 27 at 6:17 p.m.
Thread:
Flames retool
If Lindholm signs for 7.5, then do the Canucks let Petey or Hronek walk? I can't see them affording all three.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 27 at 4:15 p.m.
Thread:
Losing eight out of eleven leads us to this
I don't believe Lekkerimäki is completely off the table, but if he is traded it will be for a younger player with term or RFA status, not UFA.
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