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Hardcore Habs fan. OHL scout wannabe
Forum: NHLOct 9 at 6:23
Forum: NHLOct 9 at 4:39
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Hollands really taking the term “glass cannon” a little too literal.

Poor McDavid lmfao….</div></div>

you can say poor McDavid, but Holland has to build around his core (McJesus, Drai, Nurse) with way less cap space than a lot of other teams. Take the Bolts. They are loaded with superstars, but 9.5mil is the highest cap they have (Stamkos, Point, Vasi), and Hedman, McDonagh, Sergachev, and a bunch of depth guys are on absolutely amazing deals. They have also managed to keep developing prospects to replace guys who have to leave because of the salary cap (Foote, Barre-Boulet, Verhaeghe, Raddysh, Katchouk, etc.) by being extremely patient with them, and letting them play in Syracuse for upwards of 2 seasons so they can jump into the roster and make a mark.

Basically what I'm saying is:

Steve Yzerman built the best team of the salary cap era, and Brisebois has the tools to maintain it for 2-4 more years, depending on if a few more guys (Palat, Cernak, Cirelli) take team-friendly deals

The Oilers could have been The Bolts, but a few key mismanagement mishaps confirmed that they never will be.

Peter Chiarelli screwed the Oilers big time not by his cap management, because that was actually okay (see incredible Drai deal). He completely screwed them over at the draft. Puljujarvi is one of the biggest bust recently. Yamamoto has been rather underwhelming. Bouchard still has time, I still believe the Oilers rushed him a bit, when they should have done the Syracuse thing the Bolts did with Foote. Broberg was a decent pick but they passed on some big names that would have been better.

The Nurse deal actually really adds about 10 feet to their hole. It's really, really bad. Let's face it, he wouldn't have gotten those points if he wasn't on the Oilers PP.

I do, however, think the Foegele-Bear trade was pretty good for EDM. If Foegele is a player that would fit perfectly on the 3rd or 4th line of the Bolts, so it's clear they are going for that strategy. He's nasty, powerful, and can score. Super hard to play against. Bear was a high price, and they SHOULD NOT HAVE TRADED HIM AT ALL, but they did and proceeded to f up their D core even more.

Honestly I could rant about the Oilers for hours. This is definitely incomplete and I started to ramble sometimes and messed up the flow, but you get my point. Feel free to add to the discussion
Forum: NHL TradesSep 7 at 10:24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>It doesn't take much to prove a point to me if it doesn't involve any logical fallacies like projection.

Blaming Carolina for how much Arizona fleeced Montreal in the Dvorak trade is a classic example of projection.

That's like saying the cashier at my high school cafeteria should be blamed if some kid pickpockets me and runs off with my wallet while I'm waiting in line for my lunch.

You say that I'm the "semantics king", which is flattering.

Then, you say in the next sentence, I'm correct if I use the "bare facts".

And then you imply that I'm not being logical if I use them to explain myself.

You can't have it both ways.

You also act like as if Arizona's GM somehow cares about whether Dvorak can play the role on the Montreal Canadiens that is left behind by Kotkaniemi.

Only thing he cares about is what another team in the NHL like Montreal would pay for Dvorak.


If Bergevin went crying to Armstrong and tried vying for sympathy by bringing up the Kotkaniemi offer-sheet in trade talks, Armstrong would say something like this:

"You can cry me a river but your tears don't add any value!"

You're being more sentimental than logical.

You're being sentimental that the Canes took Koktaniemi away from your favourite team.

You're being even more sentimental by also blaming the Canes for Bergevin's decision to overpay on Dvorak.

Trying to create an imaginary popularity contest amongst other CF users between you and I makes it even more obvious.

Especially when those CF users happen to disproportionately come from the same fanbase as you.

I admire the fact you wrote all this to try and prove a point that you want me to find compelling.

I don't find it compelling because it's not.

It's now time to move on to bigger and better things.

Have an enjoyable day :)</div></div>

you're only point about the actual discussion involved the words 'cry me a river'. Dude.

I really am going to move on to bigger and better things. I've laid out what I believe to be the truth and all you've done is shoot it down with big words and insult my writing.

I came here to discuss hockey, and now that it has veered from that to petty insults, I have no desire to continue discussing.

One last thing: in the quote on quote popularity contest, one of the few people who agreed with me (which was comically more than the number that agreed with you) was a Leafs fan for goodness' sake. Fact check next time.
Forum: NHL TradesSep 7 at 12:42
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>You say that I'm politely incorrect but then use coarse language in the next paragraph.

I find that adorable.

In any event, one could argue that the Habs could have got Centreman Jay Beagle from Arizona for a Conditional 7th round pick.

And then claim the Canes had everything to do with that trade.

What you're doing and what a few people have been doing since the trade was posted yesterday is called projection.

Here's a definition of it:


Carolina did not force Marc Bergevin to go out and get Christian Dvorak.

As GM of the Habs, Bergevin has something called free will.

When it comes to running the Habs, he has free will from everybody except ownership.

The Dvorak trade and the Kotkaniemi offer-sheet are two completely separate events.

Carolina had nothing to do with the Dvorak trade.

Arizona had nothing to do with the Kotkaniemi offer-sheet.

Please try and understand that.

Have a wonderful day</div></div>

Okay, say what you want about my writing, I know I'm no Mark Twain. But wow man, it sure takes a lot to prove a point with you.

Truly the semantics king, eh? I really like that reference from a previous post. There's a spectrum between projection, which you seem to be familiar with, and semantics. In the middle lies logic. For example, saying that 'The Dvorak trade and the Kotkaniemi offer-sheet are two completely separate events' is semantics. You are correct, if we are considering just the bare facts, then yes, they are two different events. But what you can't seem to fathom is that there happens to be a connection between the two events. And since you're so keen on providing informative definitions, here;s the definition for 'connection:

I have very good reason to believe that my opinion on this subject lies at or near to the middle of the spectrum, which in this case is logic. Here's my completely logical, simple, and toned-down explanation of what happened for you to read and hopefully and finally understand:

1. The Carolina Hurricanes, after unsuccessfully attempting to trade for him, tender a 1 year, $6.1 million offer-sheet to Jesperi Kotkaniemi.

2. Marc Bergevin, the general manager of the Montreal Canadiens, recognizing that such a contract does not accurately reflect the skills and value of Kotkaniemi, and also keeping in mind the Canadiens' salary cap situation, does not match the offer-sheet, meaning Kotkaniemi is now a member of the Hurricanes and the Canadiens receive the offer-sheet compensation, 2022 1st and 3rd round picks.

<strong>Stop. </strong>Make sure to read this part.

3. Bergevin, recognizing that he now <em>lacks a top six centerman in Kotkaniemi's role, </em> begins to search for acceptable trade partners. He winds up talking with Bill Armstrong, the general manager of the Arizona Coyotes. Armstrong is looking to trade a center <em>in Kotkaniemi's role, </em> Christian Dvorak, to continue his team's rebuild.

4. After some negotiations, a trade is finalized. The Canadiens acquire Dvorak, while the Coyotes acquire a conditional 2022 1st round pick and a 2021 2nd round pick. Dvorak takes Kotkaniemi's role as second line center on the Canadiens.

<strong>Keep in mind, the two events of Bergevin not matching the offer-sheet and Bergevin acquiring Dvorak were mere hours apart.</strong>

Okay. I have laid out my point of view and opinion with facts and have justified it. I explained logically what I thought had happened and why I believed my opinion to be correct, And, may I add, fellow CF users seem to be agreeing with me more often than they are agreeing with you.

Take a look at posts 5 and 6 on the 6th page of this thread.

In an effort to keep things civilized, which I know you will undoubtedly make fun of in your next response, have an enjoyable day.
Forum: NHL TradesSep 5 at 2:51
Forum: NHLAug 6 at 10:42
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canesfan21_</b></div><div>Worst Move every team made this offseason

Ducks - Not protecting Fleury in the XD
Coyotes - Passing on so much talent in the middle rounds of the draft
Bruins - Not acquiring a true #1 LD
Sabres - Their Handling of the Eichel situation
Flames - Not much, I’ve liked their offseason, but I was expecting them to make a big “splash” trade and they haven’t as of yet…
Hurricanes - Oh boy, where do I even start, I’ll just say the Ned trade
Blackhawks - That Seth Jones contract
Avalanche - Kuemper trade (too much for Kuemper IMO)
Blue Jackets - I’ve really liked their offseason, but I’m not a fan of trading Atkinson for Voracek 1 for 1 w/o retention
<strong>Stars - Only extending Blake Comeau for 1 year, come on, now he’ll have a breakout year and price himself out of Dallas </strong>
Wings - Another team that was tough, I’ve liked their offseason, don’t love giving up a 2nd for Leddy, though
Oilers - Lol, so many options, Keith trade, Letting Larsson go, Ceci contract, Not upgrading in net
Panthers - I honestly don’t know, Zito has done a great job there, they will be scary this season and in the future
Kings - Same as Florida tbh
Wild - Not finding a true #1 center…yet
Habs - Mallioux Pick
Preds - Ellis Trade/Arvidsson Trade
Devils - Same as FLA and LA, might’ve overpaid Bernier a bit, but that’s just me nitpicking
Isles - Not making any big moves as of yet
Rangers - Buchnevich Trade
Sens - Not doing much to improve yet, didn’t love their draft, but they’re future is still bright, one of the best prospect pools
Flyers - Ristolainen trade
Pens - Running it back with the same goalie tandem
Sharks - Nothing that stands out
Kraken - Passing on so much good talent in the XD
Blues - Nothing that stands out, maybe should’ve protected Dunn over Krug or Faulk
Lightning - Losing their entire 3rd line for almost nothing, that hurts
Leafs - Not enough changes to the team be considered more than a 2nd round exit IMO, (maybe, prob not)
Canucks - Tucker Poolman contract
Golden Knights - Trading the Vezina winner and face of the franchise for 4 years for absolutely nothing
Capitals - Can’t think of much
Jets - They've had a good offseason, upgraded their blue line, but could use improvements to the bottom 6 IMO</div></div>

It just keeps coming doesn't it
Forum: NHLAug 6 at 10:19
Forum: General Fantasy TalkAug 4 at 4:10
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy3456</b></div><div>What is a sim league? A sim league is an online hockey league where you interact with an entire league of other GM's. Players are created based on their previous season in the NHL, with their ratings being a direct reflection of how they did in the past season. Games are played through a simulator that the commissioner owns and will post the results of.

How active or involved do I need to be in this league? You don't need to be too active in order to maintain good standing in the league along with keeping your team in good shape. The minimum requirement would be checking the forum and stuff every second day or so. But, the more active you are, the more you get out of the league.

Here is a link to the site: http://gvfhl.com/

The current teams open are: Carolina, Ottawa, and Boston. To see their rosters just click on their logo at the top of the page I linked. Once you click on their logo, you will see their roster and along the top you can click on prospects to see all of their prospects and picks.

Ottawa is a strong team with star forward Nathan MacKinnon and defenceman Victor Hedman leading the way. A good team for a new GM to take over and learn how to build contending rosters.

Carolina is another strong team with Mark Stone, John Carlson, and Tuuka Rask leading the way.

Boston is currently a team on the outside looking in. There are a few solid pieces such as Erik Karlsson and Shea Weber. They do have a few good prospects such as Eeli Tolvanen and Jamie Drysdale. This team would probably be best if you were looking to do a rebuild. There are enough pieces in place that with the proper moves you could rebuild somewhat quickly on the fly, completely tear it down, or make some moves to try and sneak into the playoffs.

If you're interested and would like to sign up, the steps you need to take are:

1. Click on the forum option in the top left on the main page I linked.

2. At the top right there will be a register button, click that.

3. Fill out the required registration information (only needs your username for the site and an email address). After you've done this, please PM me with the email address you used so I can inform the commissioner so he can activate the account.

After you've done all this, get in contact with me on here and I'll guide you through the rest of the steps needed to apply for a team (not much from here).

If you have any other questions feel free to PM me or comment.</div></div>

I have registered! The email I used was marsremus09<a href="/users/gmail" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@gmail</a>.com