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Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago

Thread: SalaryDumps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habspectations</b></div><div>25% retention is a big number for 5 years! With 25% retention I would throw in a pick and a stud (Harris, Baron or Mailloux) for sure. I think Gallagher has a NTC too but he might like to end it in San Jose and Karlsson won't get a cup in San Jose any time soon.</div></div>

agreed but Gallaher while a solid player is no longer worth his deal and would only block our younger forwards from pushing for spots. 25% is a lot but if we get the 24 1st, 23 2nd Mailoux it helps the rebuild and the 25% retention is off the books when the 22 & 23 draft picks would be in line for their 2nd contracts so no harm there. can you retain cap but not actually pay the salary? cause if that was an option it would be a lesser value than actually eating the money.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 12:58 a.m.

Thread: SalaryDumps

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kjell_Forsman</b></div><div>I don't think that's true. Grier wants the contract gone so he can build the team that he wants. He won't accept lowball offers for sure but he's not going to expect the same return Dorian got.

He'll want a top prospect, a decent nhl defenseman and likely a mid to late 1st and he isn't retaining more than 2 mil</div></div>

I agree but i say he is willing to retain 25% to get a better return, If Karlsson was willing to waive for Montreal i’d ask 24 1st, (allowing top 10 protection obviously) Mailoux and willing to take back Hoffman as you can’t have both on the same team. with the 25% retention i’d ask for another pick (23 2nd) or a prospect.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:58 p.m.

Thread: Timo Meier

i swear everyone thinks a 35 goal scoring power forward isn’t worth anything of real value on this site.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:55 p.m.

Thread: Grubauer Trade

really want nothing to do with Grubauer to be honest and i like Bystedt more than Geekie. guy is putting up .5 ppg as a rookie in the SHL.

Forum: Mock-DraftYesterday at 10:01 p.m.

Thread: redraft in 5 years

your really high on bystedt

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 5:51 p.m.

Thread: Timo

Holtz 23 1st for Meier and we’re willing to take Johnson back to make it happen.
your asking for a 35 goal scorer last year who is on pace for 40 this year, who is only 26. those almost never become available, the last 3 are skewed Fiala was moved because of cap issues, Debrincat out of desperation to fire off a rebuild, and Tkatchuk because he wanted out. the fact is weather you use it or not he is arbitration eligible and has the QO so it’s not a pure rental and guys like him cost 3+ 1sts. your 23 1st will be in the 23-26 range so it’s only worth 1 first, if it was 6-12 it would be worth 2, and Holtz is a prize but only worth 2 1sts much like Eklund. put them together and that’s fair Value for Meier. who gives you a premier power forward just hitting his prime as your contention window is opening and will give you 6+ prime years

Forum: Fauteuil - DGFri. at 3:43 p.m.

Thread: BlockBuster Step Up

that deal isn’t worth Meier! much less our #2 D and our best PK depth forward

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 1:17 a.m.

Thread: Future

20 people say it’s going to cost a fortune for a guy like Meier and one Douche says they won’t get squat and everyone jumps on board. sharks hold more cards than Chicago or Minnesota had and they are willing to wait. and while they wait Meier racks up goals and points and makes himself even more valuable.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 12:45 a.m.

Thread: Trade deadline

why does San Jose do that deal? Barabanov has been really good for them putting up .67 PPG making 2.5 this year and next. Lorentz is solid and both players combined are cheaper and add more value than Puljujarvi

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 12:41 a.m.

Thread: Timo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeypal</b></div><div>Islanders probably pick around 20. I’m taking Dufour and 20th overall (in a better draft) over Korchinski. Bolduc, 2nd and Bailey EASILY over Paul Ludwinski and a 3rd.</div></div>

Bailey has a negative value on this deal, and sharks want more than Debrincat deal and comparing their numbers this year i’d say it’s fair to say he’s worth more

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:02 p.m.

Thread: Timo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeypal</b></div><div>That’s exactly why I made this deal substantially better than what Chicago got</div></div>

well Chicago got the 7th OA and your giving us a 24-30 OA and. the difference there is Dufour, taking Bailey back as a cap dump is the 2nd so your saying bolduc is worth more than a 2nd and a 3rd?

Forum: Mock-DraftThu. at 4:03 p.m.

Thread: 2022 top 15

if Mintyukov or Korchinski fell the sharks would have never made their trade, those were their two guys and when they got picked, sharks panicked and traded back! still i like the 3 sharks got with those picks so i’m not upset at that deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 4:01 p.m.

Thread: Timo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>The main difference is Chicago was panicking after finish so low in the standings but forgetting to protect the pick that was for Seth Jones, they knew as a rebuilding team they had to get a 1st round pick fast & panic traded Debrincat, Sharks have 0 incentive to rush anything & will sit on Meier till they get an offer worth their attention</div></div>

thank you. and same could be said for Min deal of Fiala! Min had 12 mil dead cap and needed to move cap to give them a chance and got a below market return for him as well.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 3:59 p.m.

Thread: Retool Not Rebuild 23-24

If that is the Offer at the TDL sharks accept but if it goes to the offseason then i think they pass. the big question is does Karlsson accept a deal to Nashville

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 3:54 p.m.

Thread: Timo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>Exactly I was about to say just cause 1 team underpaid doesn’t mean that the Sharks are gonna be as kind as Chicago</div></div>

the other thing is Chicago had to make a fast decision or Ottawa was going to draft their pick rather than trade it. sharks have till the TDL and could always opt to keep him and qualify him then go to arbitration where he will get 7.5-8.5 mil or just sign him to an 8 year deal. time gives the sharks a chance to be patient and Meier is playing exactly like he did last year and is on pace for 35-40 goals 75-90 points so teams won’t be worried he can’t replicate last year.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 3:30 p.m.

Thread: RIP Borje Salming

sharks would accept that! Engvall is a perfect young replacement for Bonino

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 1:07 p.m.

Thread: Timo

just because he says it is does not make it true, fact is Ottawa fleeced Chicago! Meier trade will be between Debrincats and Tkatchuk deals

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:03 p.m.

Thread: If they tank

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>They’re 31st rn ok</div></div>

once they fire the coach and bring back Norris this team will improve. too much talent to stay there.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:54 p.m.

Thread: If they tank

unless Ottawa tanks hard Fantilli is not an option.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 5:37 p.m.

Thread: New York Islanders

Sharks should be happy with that return.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 12:21 p.m.

Thread: Fire Zito

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nickkbowen25</b></div><div>If pasta is a UFA expect more than what Panarin got</div></div>

i was thinking more he gets the Panarin deal, thats about the max a wing could expect in the NHL at this time, in 3-4 years it might jump up again.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 11:40 a.m.

Thread: Meier

In other news Oilers are open to trading McDavid most reps think his value is "considerably less" than Tkatchuk recieved.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:23 p.m.

Thread: 3 Massive Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>What would need to be added, I put an underpay to not get crucified(I know his value is much more)</div></div>

Marner to me is worth the equivalent of 5 - 1sts.
so as a sharks fan my comp would be (though as a rebuilding club we should not be doing this so this is just for reference) Meier (who i would say is worth 2 1/2 1sts Bordeleau (1 1/2 IMO) and a 1st would be fair. but not the 23 1st because we have a shot at a top 3 pick and in this draft thats worth 2+ 1sts as everyone knows.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:09 p.m.

Thread: 3 Massive Moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>I doubt that Karlsson to Toronto would ever happen
cause there needs to be retention of some kind, maybe at like 75% retained but that is a massive stretch

Also you think Marner could get more & if so how much?</div></div>

Karlsson to Toronto is in the rumor mill I have nothing to do with that but it would probably be 20-25% retained by SJS and another 20-25% by Chicago and you get the #1 D this year at 5.75-6.5 a season. move a guy as a cap dump and it’s a slam dunk.
as for Marner, a meier type player plus a 1st and a 2nd is still not fair IMO. he’s a top 20 Elite player.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 4:49 p.m.

Thread: 3 Massive Moves

Meier deal isn't great, but it's not bad, the Marner deal is horrible.
and FYI word is Karlsson to Toronto with Chicago as a middle man is heating up and posible b this weekend.

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