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Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 6:17 pm

Thread: Haters will hate

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Not opposed at all. The move is about getting an expiring contract at a resonable cost.

But...... can the Yotes retain salary? Really? 🤔🤔🤔</div></div>

I'm not saying there wouldn't be a market for Hjalmarsson but given his age cap hit n term how much would they get for him? I'm not suggesting they retain because it benefits us we would have to add a pick or two but from there perspective they would be getting most of his money off of the books and would only have to retain for a year. Maybe I'm out to lunch but I hope we could get him as I think he'd be a great fit on our team. Am I way off base here? I ask seriously

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 2:48 pm

Thread: Haters will hate

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>Agreed. Move moving AJ for Demers seems like an overpay too. Given the construct of the proposed deal, Crouse is the guy.</div></div>

I like it but I would prefer Hjalmerson over Demers I realize he costs more but if we could add to get them to retain a bit I think it could be mutually beneficial. What say you?

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 12:29 pm

Thread: net out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>I might not say it in every comment but I do say it quite a bit.... these are only my opinions.</div></div>

Same here

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 11:51 am

Thread: net out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>You can deny it all you want, I hate to break it to you but you’re not actually Steve Yzerman. There is no rule here stating whatever you say goes...</div></div>

Exactly, if a leafs fan would have proposed the Pitt trade before it happened they would have got ripped to shreds and told they were delusional yet here we are. I realize that alot of people overvalue players on here but I've seen it from every fan base. I laugh when people on here say that a certain trade wont happen as if they're actually in charge which is why I say I can't see Dubas moving a certain player or making a certain trade but I'm not privy to any inside information or anything other than what everyone else knows.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 10:41 am

Thread: Maybe

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>No they don't, that is a bust and a 3rd pair defenceman for a better defenceman and an elite offensive forward. The two mid to late 1st don't make up the difference.</div></div>

Agreed. If they think Edmonton is loosing this deal I want some of what they're smoking!

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 10 at 1:19

Thread: I dont hate it

This deal doesn't make sense for the Leafs because with the flat cap we won't be able to afford to keep him n Rielly which would be the point in acquiring him in the first place. He/ this deal would make more sense if we were a Parayko away from winning the Stanley Cup but we're not and we need those ELC's plus our FO is in love with those two. Just my opinion tho.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 9 at 7:04

Thread: Tougher to play

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonMcD11</b></div><div>Well firstly, IF Bergevin was willing to give the Leafs Domi, it would have to be at least a top-6 player coming in return. Or a bigger package which includes Sandin.

Honestly i dont see anything very inticing on the Leafs that we would be able to get for Domi. Id be interested in Nylander but would obviously need to give Domi+. Not sure. Im glad i dont have to make these sort of decisions.</div></div>

I appreciate the feedback. I wasn't sure if you guys would be willing to take a package of Kerfoot, Johnsson n Dermott plus a 2nd or something. I figured I was probably out to lunch and based on what you and <a href="/users/leafs101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs101</a> said I was. You don't know unless you ask and I appreciate both of your honest replies. Cheers and good luck next year.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 9 at 7:00

Thread: Tougher to play

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>#15OA + a bit id think. I'd be ok with that if we move Nylander for defence</div></div>

Me too, especially if Schneider is off the board when it's our turn to pick. Thanks

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 9 at 6:54

Thread: Tougher to play

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BergevinBurner</b></div><div>Johnsson's a solid middle 6 winger, but if we're moving Domi I'm expecting a top 6 winger coming back.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrandonMcD11</b></div><div>Gonna need to give more for Domi and Fleur</div></div>

Serious question, what would you guys want for Domi? Would Kerfoot interest you at all as part of a package? I've been trying to figure out what a trade between our teams would look like with Domi involved but I honestly don't know what Mon would want from the buds.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 9 at 6:45

Thread: Trade and UFA RHD

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>Here's the issue, Van cannot take on any extra salary, also TO is paying a 2nd rnd pick to literally aquire the lesser F and equal Dman</div></div>

Nailed it!

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 3:48

Thread: Defensive Stud and Goalie Swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>What's Arizona's incentive? Kuemper was just re-signed to a two-year deal, is cheaper, and had a better year in 2019-2020.</div></div>

I think his reasoning is that Andersen gets $4mill of his $5mill on July 1st so he has a 5mill cap hit but only costs the yotes $1mill in actual salary. I'm not saying they would make this trade but another factor is Arizona has a much better D playing in front of him than he'd have in Toronto plus the media/fan pressure might influence how good he could be in Tdot. I'd do Andersen for Hjalmarsson though.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 3:33

Thread: Step in the right direction

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>willdog37</b></div><div>Trust me Gudas is not the answer to that problem. He is average defensively speaking and takes way too many penalties to be effective in the physical game. I'd much rather have Severson, a younger, bona fide top 4 defenseman on a bargain of a contract for the next 3 years who can put up 40+ points per season and is at least at the defensive level of Gudas, if not better. He also has the size to be physical.</div></div>

Perhaps not, I was merely throwing out a suggestion but it could be Hamonic or whomever via FA or we could target Hjalmarsson via trade that would cost us less. I'm not saying Severson is terrible or anything just that he's a two-way d and we need shut down d. Severson and Muzzin would make a great pairing but I wouldn't give up the 15OA to make it happen. We could draft Schneider with that pick while addressing our d problem without giving up so much. I get where you were going with this but I can't see Dubas making this move. Johnsson+ Dermott+ Holl or Holl+15OA or something along those lines would make sense potentially even Liljegren instead of one of those pieces but I think that's about all he'd be willing to give up.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 2:51

Thread: Step in the right direction

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>willdog37</b></div><div>LOL you want GUDAS? He's basically Ceci but with worse offensive upside. I hope you enjoy losing in round 1, because that's where you'll be again next year with that comical move</div></div>

We will likely lose in the first round but it would have nothing to do with Gudas. Ceci isn't really good at anything whereas Gudas brings the physical element that the Leafs lack. I'm not saying we get him and no leaf fan would expect any offence from him (we already got that covered) I was simply saying he brings an element that is more useful to us than what Severson brings plus we keep the picks while reallocating Johnsson and Kapanen's money to our D.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 1:51

Thread: Step in the right direction

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>De Melo will get at least twice that, why would Nosek leave Las Vegas for the same amount of money the Golden Knights will pay him, and why would Miller leave Anaheim when he can get more there if he wants to keep playing?</div></div>

I'm glad somebody has their eye on the ball, I forgot about Miller signing with NJ when his wife is an actress and he has stated he wants to stay in California. And I missed Nosek in all this madness lol. How have you been?

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 1:40

Thread: Step in the right direction

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>I think that’s a reasonable deal for leafs. You won’t get much positive responses from leafs fans they seem to think their 3rd liners are worth gold which is an absolute joke.</div></div>

Read my post below

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 1:40

Thread: Step in the right direction

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MMXD</b></div><div>You went for less with Hanifin who is better. Severson isn’t a great defensive player which is what Toronto needs. Imo the pick stays with Toronto</div></div>

Exactly, why not just trade Johnsson for a pick and sign DeMelo and Gudas with that money, it makes alot more sense for the buds in terms of what we're looking for.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 8 at 1:29

Thread: Step in the right direction

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>willdog37</b></div><div>Why not? He's the perfect fit to solve their RD issue. People underrate him because he's played for a bad team but he's a solid top 4 defensemen who's pretty good on both ends of the ice. He's also on a reasonable cap hit, which is key given Toronto's issues in staying under the cap now that it's flat. I honestly don't see a better option for Toronto if they want to fix that issue</div></div>

So Severson is worth Johnsson and the 15OA but Hanafin is only worth the 20OA and a 4th? Also, no way DeMelo signs for that and why pay Blackwood that when he hasn't earned it yet? Your valuations are all over the place. There is absolutely no way the Leafs make that trade.

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJul 4 at 5:50

Thread: New cap is set

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Essentially, you are asking for a luxury tax system here. I don't mind that but it will make the league full of haves and have nots.

I feel that CBOs are a wet dream in the players' favor and don't do anything for the owners. Players would have to give something up to get CBOs. I'm not sure that would be worth it for the players.</div></div>

Personally, I like the luxury tax system over a cap but my comment was in reference to someone else who was talking about CBO's. It doesn't matter to me if the league gives them out, it was just a thought I had if they do for teams who don't need them but even a team like Arizona it wouldn't make a difference too. You're right if a team got to spend more and won the cup it would be a media hay day about how team x won because they were able to spend more. I think CBO's benefit both sides but you're right the players benefit 100% whereas only some owners benefit from them. It was a bad idea this is why I like bouncing ideas off of you and <a href="/users/Trickster" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Trickster</a> you're always straight forward with me! I appreciate the feedback buddy.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 4 at 5:44

Thread: Mitch Marner vs Prime Phil Kessel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MaxDomi13</b></div><div>Why the pong?</div></div>

My bad. Honestly, I didn't think about it, I don't get to come on here as much as I used to or as much as I'd like to. I like coming on here to talk to intelligent people such as yourself. I'll try to remember next time. Sorry, buddy.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 4 at 3:12

Thread: Mitch Marner vs Prime Phil Kessel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Literally all you had to do was delete all the names in the original post. Thanks for the mass ping on a 2 week old thread</div></div>

Or you could have just as easily ignored it I mean if that is a huge inconvenience to you you really need to find something else to do with your time.

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJul 4 at 3:04

Thread: New cap is set

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>You're getting in what the "the League" wants. The league is just an administrator of the rules set out by different parties. First the majority of owners would have to agree to CBOs as it their money not the league . The league has no money as such. It's a non profit entity. CBOs in effect raise the amount of $$$$ the players get instead of the current negotiated 50%. I don't think the players would object to CBOs but the majority of owners might.</div></div>

I get it I was just throwing out an idea that would be based on the premise the league hands out CBO's not stating they will but if they did and teams didn't want to or didn't need to use them it could help create a balance for teams like Toronto who could then spend more. Also, did you pick up on the Dazed and confused reference? Lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJul 4 at 2:56

Thread: Mitch Marner vs Prime Phil Kessel

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJul 4 at 2:52

Thread: New cap is set

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>The NHL cant keep give 1 year projections to teams as teams have to peject for the future and now at the same time.

This is safe bet by the league, how it goes... let's see.</div></div>

Exactly and if the league somehow makes more money than they're anticipating over the next 3 years and things go back to normal they can inflate the cap more substantially after that.

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJul 4 at 2:48

Thread: New cap is set

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leaflet</b></div><div>Kudos for the optimism. But if confirmed, this is bad news for Leafs management.

The generous contracts Leafs gave made sense if anticipating a steep cap increase and inflation in salaries. Now, teams that signed their young stars on bridge deals instead, as I always said Dubas should have done, will have the upper hand in contract negotiations. Bad economy, COVID, stagnant cap, most GMs stuck with no room to overbid: not a good context for agents to ask extravagant salaries.</div></div>

The only reason those teams will have the upper hand is because of COVID and no one could have predicted that at the time of the signings. Would we have gotten them cheaper if we bridged them, yes but if this didn't happen it would have cost us more as they're growing and getting better. Dubas made the right decision.

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsJul 4 at 2:41

Thread: New cap is set

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tomato43</b></div><div>I wouldn't call it crippling, but it is definitely a blow to our future chances of winning a cup. An increase of 2.5 - 4.0 Million a year in that span means the huge contracts to the big 3 wouldn't have mattered as much. The circumstances around a global pandemic couldn't be foreseen so i have nothing bad to say about how management has handled the cap so far. I think Dubas and Pridham have done well by avoiding signing bad contracts. I think they could have gotten Marner and Matthews a million or so cheaper each, but big deal.

It sounds like the league will not be handing out CBOs, which is a good thing in my opinion since the leafs have no real 'bad contracts' to buy out. The extra space we would have had with a regular cap increases would have let us possibly go after Hamilton after next year, i don't see how that happens now. I expect Dermott to be penny pinched on a bridge deal. Johnsson or Kap to be traded during the 'offseason' to make a little space for some sort of right side D upgrade. Dermott might be dangled in a trade as well, which i would hate. I pray that Barabanov, Robertson, Lehtonen, Liljegren all work out and can fill out the roster with cheap options.

I think Anderson is gone when his contract ends. We wont have the space to pay him, especially considering he will be 32. Hyman while he has proven to be very useful i don't feel like paying him ~5M when he hits free agency as well. Unless he wants to takes team friendly deal in terms of cap number and length i dont think can be resigned either.

I hope that this stagnation in the cap will be reflected in the UFA signings. I hope management of each team all stand pat and penny pinch the UFA class knowing that the cap be increasing to give them breathing room after giving out big contracts. This might keep the market low enough for us to sign some useful players to cheap deals.</div></div>

Good points, but what if the league handed out CBO's and teams that chose not to use them could instead increase their spending/cap ceiling by a certain %. Just a thought that I realize the league wouldn't do but it would be a lot cooler if they did lol.

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