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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>In a perfect world, this would be true justice.
You'll get as old as I am waiting for it to happen.
I'll even improve on your idea: instead of a blanket ban for one year, which wouldn't hurt them if they don't make the playoffs, what about a ban <strong>the next time the team qualifies for the playoffs</strong>?
Bet you'd only have to impose that ban once.</div></div>
That's what I'm talking about!
My idea was anyone caught cheating (players) would hurt their future financial earnings, let's use Springer as an example... Let's say the Astros get a 1year ban from the playoffs like the 1-year bans for Himch and Lunow or a 2year ban like the draft picks lost or a 3-year ban because they've been cheating for 3 years (probably longer but you get my point), in Springers case a 1-year ban doesn't hurt him as much but a 2-year or 3-year ban and any team looking at him in GA next year would be hesitant to sign him because he wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs and in this case would have lost his arb rights for this year (likely carrying the same AAV as last year or potentially less, IMO, that would deter players from cheating in the future and owners would make sure that their team isn't cheating because they forfeit their picks in those years.
Also, that's why want to see the amount a team (owner) can be fined to $50 mill <a href="/users/oneX" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@oneX</a> is right it may not be that much to Crane but how many owners can afford to pay that? Look at the Rays payroll last year or Oakland or Cleveland etc. Those owners couldn't afford a fine that big so they would be more careful who they hire and would monitor their teams more closely. IMO, the punishment should be viewed more as a deterrent for other teams going forward because the punishment will only get worse the more team's get caught. Another thing Manfred could do is fine players who are already under contract like Altuve for example.
From a neutral party, what do you think of the Blue Jay's off-season so far? And can you give me more insight into what to expect from Ryu going forward? I know he doesn't have overpowering stuff but he's effective and he has a good pitching arsenal also I expect him to not be as effective coming to the AL East but he should be the best pitcher for us next year.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>More then being speculated.
It is just the way it is.
I want the hammer dropped on the players too.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Here are two simple adjustments:
1. Baseball is, more than any other major sport, statistics-intensive. Therefore, any batting statistic for a Houston player relating to the third, fourth and fifth game of the World Series should have an asterisk attached to it.
2. Houston gets no home games for the next two post-seasons; let them play on a neutral field of a non-playoff team (or teams, could rotate) so that those fans could get to see post-season games.</div></div>
Okay, but if it means that players wouldn't come forward in the future would you still want them punished?
Also, a question for both of you and <a href="/users/oneX" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@oneX</a> what do you guys think of banning the Astros from postseason play? Hear me out on this one, by banning them from the playoffs all incentive to cheat would be gone IMO. The players want to win so they would be deterred managers and coaching staff are already deterred from cheating after the 1-year bans handed out and gm's wouldn't want to cheat either for the same reasons. Also, if a player is set to hit FA the acquiring team would not have their services for the postseason until the ban is over. If a player is arb eligible they could lose those rights as well, IMO, that would get rid of cheating in the game.
In this case, you could band them for either 1,2 or 3 years and the penalties only become more severe each time a team gets caught. You may not like it but I think it would be effective.... I mean, would you cheat if that was the punishment? And it punishes the players like you guys want. I'm guessing I'll get a thumbs down on this one, oh well just an idea.