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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 3:18 p.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>This team, with or without Dumba, will make the exact same amount of noise. They are not in the position to "take a shot". They're having a nice year and will continue to develop. Dumba does nothing for them.

Keep your assets or make a big splash, like a Buch or Chychrun or a Zegras (ew). That's how asset management works.

This would be the equivalent of Holland trading a 2nd and Janmark for Erik Cole, or Jankrok and 2nd for Legwand - teams that had no real shot to make any noise but traded valuable picks and prospects with potential.

I'd like to see Berg on a 3rd line with Soder and Veleno, eventually Kasper.</div></div>

You can't guarantee you'll be in this position next year or the year after. Will Kane be back and average a PPG next year? Will Larks play most the year without getting hurt? Will your 3rd string goalie step in and stabilize the ship after Husso pulls his sack muscle again? Who knows, nothing is guaranteed in this league.

I'm not saying sell the whole farm for a rental, but god help Lyon if we really trot out Petry on the 2nd pair against Florida or Boston come April.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 2:42 p.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>lol and trading him for Dumba is gonna accomplish that?

If he's not traded for an actual helpful piece, he'll be getting plenty of NHL time next year.</div></div>

No, I'm saying it'd be nice to see what that actually looks like if he doesn't get traded. 3rd line next to Copp and Fabs/Veleno would be interesting.

Dumba is never gonna win the Conn Smyth, but are you really gonna argue he wouldn't be an upgrade over the corpse of Petry? Wings forward core has more scoring as a complete unit than anyone in the league. The glaring weakness for this team all year has been the middle of the D core. You're in a position to add thanks to guys like Mo and Ray who are underpaid because their ELCs aren't up yet. I'd like to see them at least take a shot at making a run while that's still the case.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 2:19 p.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoachCoach</b></div><div>On the right side currently is Mo, Holl, Petry with Ghost/Chiarot playing some off hand.

Coming up through the pipeline are ASP, Gibson, Ant Johansson, and Tuo. If one of the last three hits, the RHD is set for the foreseeable future (barring an upgrade trade).

Why dump a first for a rental D that maybe helps them win a round but won’t be a main component in any deep run this season and will most likely be a FA.

When the cap rises, FA signing prices rise.</div></div>

So right side you listed can be summed up like this:

Franchise player, a bum who can't crack the lineup, old slow guy who's best hockey is behind him, offensive D who's had a good year but ain't exactly winning a Norris, and a guy who really should play on the left side.

I do keep forgetting ASP is a righty, but he's 2 years away at best. Tuo seems like he's doing well, but do we *really* think he's gonna contribute NHL minutes? I'm unconvinced.

Have the Wings overachieved this year? Sure. But sometimes you hit on a scratcher. Maybe Bergy is too high a price to pay, but it seems silly to not try and address an obvious need when you're in a position to make a run to the playoffs for the first time in almost a decade. Otherwise you just end up like Buffalo.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 2:03 p.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marked_Difference</b></div><div>Detroit is VERY likely to be in the playoffs. What about Dumba 50% retained and someone like O'Brian as a depth forward for the 24 1st.

A late first for the defensemen that Detroit really needs and a tough as nails O'B to soak up bullets in the playoffs as a depth insert guy.</div></div>

Could work, though they kinda already have a few guys like that (Kostin, Czarnik, etc.) Depth forwards really don't move the needle too much for the Wings because they have trouble fitting in all the ones they currently have. Hence why Bergy has been riding the bus for GR. 1st rounder for a rental D like Dumba is a bit steep. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy. But he's not without his faults (just ask Wild fans).
Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 8 at 12:22 p.m.
Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdb9831</b></div><div>In a vacuum, this is a good deal just based on what Nylander brings to the table. He is worth the money and should continue to be through most of the contract. The last few years won't be as bad with the higher cap as well.

The problem is the structure of this team. I just don't think you can give 4 players 50% of the money and ice a complete roster. I have the feeling the Delta between JT+Marner now compared to JT+Marner with their upcoming extensions won't be much, if anything. JT will see his pay come down, I honestly don't know what a 'fair' number will look like, and Marner will go up. Probably something around 13-14 million/year. So even if JT takes 6-8 million on the next deal, the core four will still cost around 50% of the cap.</div></div>

This is really what it boils down to. Big Willie has absolutely earned his payday but between him, JT, Stachews, and Mitch the rest of the roster is gonna be looking at Toronto's available cap like Will Smith looking around at the house at the end of Fresh Prince.
Forum: NHL TradesAug. 8, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</b></div><div>Double that retain amount would have cost the Pens T. Smith or O. Pickering, triple the retain amount and Pens would have added a conditional 2nd Rd pick (with upgrade to a 1st Rd'er)

So yes, SJS lost the trade, but the owners stood firm on not paying EK65 %25 to %33 of his salary for 4 years to play elsewhere.</div></div>

Which SJ ownership is well within their rights to do, but its not like the Sharks are going to be competitive anytime soon. So did they really need the cap space that they got 2 years down the road for retaining less?

As always, it may have just come down to dollars and cents. I agree that SJ probably "loses" this deal, but considering the bounds that Grier had to play in and how little leverage he actually had, I'd say he did alright.